Seminar September 27th

by | Sep 27, 2009

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive hello all

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive hope everyone had a good weekend

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:44 PM PDT] JJB i’m referring to the subset who could otherwise be here in chat learning

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:44 PM PDT] Ironman hello il

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:47 PM PDT] Ironman IL

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy is going to carry off where he left off last weekend in a bit

[Sep 27, 2009 5:01:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but I am going to cover a few emails I got

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:12 PM PDT] Ironman sounds good

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive also some at the end of the day Friday are getting uesd to the gappers

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and what not

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and asking for them

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:19 PM PDT] evenkeel thanks IL

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so I’ll dicusss that a bit – since there’s been a TON of cash to be made

[Sep 27, 2009 5:02:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so same thing as always if u have questions feel free to PM me.. and while Muddy is sharing stuff feel free to PM me and I’ll sift thru them and send them to Laura

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so he doesn’t get bombarded

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so first few I had…

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Question: Is it 75k shares traded for day or 75k in dollar amount that you’re looking for to filter out the trash in hod list? Also are you looking for 75k avg daily volume or filtering so that a hod wont show up til it’s reached 75k for the day.

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive This is regarding the HOD and LOD list

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Scottrade or Speedtrader.. whichever you use

[Sep 27, 2009 5:03:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I know Scottrade has a filter on the Elite, Speedtrader has a filter on the dastrader platform

[Sep 27, 2009 5:04:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I filter out stocks under 75,000 vol

[Sep 27, 2009 5:04:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive volume not $ volume

[Sep 27, 2009 5:04:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive b/c then it gives a slight “edge” to the 100k share alerts

[Sep 27, 2009 5:04:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive usually I don’t pay attention to too many under there b/c if its much lower than that… there’s not much liquidity

[Sep 27, 2009 5:04:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most stocks we trade anyway are 500k-1m+

[Sep 27, 2009 5:05:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I also have a high end filter topping it out at $30

[Sep 27, 2009 5:05:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that way a bunch of the higher stuff doesn’t keep hogging the HOD screen

[Sep 27, 2009 5:06:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any questions on that?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:06:12 PM PDT] maniac when did ST get hod list?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:06:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive almost a year ago

[Sep 27, 2009 5:06:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive when I asked them to and tested it with them

[Sep 27, 2009 5:06:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive until it worked like a charm

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:00 PM PDT] maniac cool, i guess their software is a must have in that case

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:21 PM PDT] dantx does the st hod list work pre mkt?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes it does

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Pre market and after hours

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive which is why after hours you see me find a bunch of movers quickly

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:48 PM PDT] dantx on basic account?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:07:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive vs. Scott which stops

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there’s only one platform on dastrader (speedtrader)

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:15 PM PDT] cwn6161 st = speedtrader not scottrade…. kinda confusing

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:16 PM PDT] evenkeel st elite only?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:35 PM PDT] dantx scottrade basic?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Guys..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Scottrade has it

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SpeedTrader has it

[Sep 27, 2009 5:08:55 PM PDT] dantx lol ok

[Sep 27, 2009 5:09:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Scottrade Elite has FILTERING options

[Sep 27, 2009 5:09:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s all

[Sep 27, 2009 5:09:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive anyhow – any other questions regarding HOD list ?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:09:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if not I’ll talk a bit about gappers

[Sep 27, 2009 5:10:13 PM PDT] Muddy just me but i wouldnt want a volume filter on the hod list,because i like to trade the low floaters that many times don’t meet the vol requirements…like DRAM on friday at the time of it’s b/o,it ended with huge vol but was low on it’s breakout run

[Sep 27, 2009 5:10:14 PM PDT] chillax some hods stop, park and fade others keep going higher, how to know?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:10:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive exactly – that’s downside to filtering is you miss out on some.. but on the flip side I know Muddy has that covered 🙂

[Sep 27, 2009 5:10:45 PM PDT] Muddy former runners!

[Sep 27, 2009 5:10:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and lets me focus a bit on a slower HOD list and scan ’em

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:00 PM PDT] Muddy cherrypick

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:14 PM PDT] chillax ah

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive right – just because its on the HOD list doesn’t mean its a buy chillax

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you’ve gone thru any of the recent seminars you’ll see how I trade them at times

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I let them re-set up .. which is the same Muddy does when he says.. re-test.. vol perk etc

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:48 PM PDT] moby2006 there was mention in a post a while ago that you’d be willing to post a few former runners so we could memorizse them

[Sep 27, 2009 5:11:48 PM PDT] Muddy if you run the scans often enough,you should learn a bunch of former runners/dayrangers

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive moby – not from here.. that’s from you doing ur scans nightly

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:16 PM PDT] moby2006 ty

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll get a feel for them as you go along

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:19 PM PDT] Muddy ther’s so many

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you look at past scans… Muddy and myself

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:25 PM PDT] Muddy right

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we focus on stocks we’ve seen before

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s nothing we can just “post”

[Sep 27, 2009 5:12:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive plus you learn new ones every day… for example in 5 months when you see DRAM again

[Sep 27, 2009 5:13:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’ll auto click since you’ve been here

[Sep 27, 2009 5:13:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and you’ll react in a split second when you see that ticker

[Sep 27, 2009 5:13:59 PM PDT] moby2006 so whenin the back of your mind when you see a former runner hit a hod or in pre, one enters based on it being a formr runner?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:14:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it helps ur decision making process

[Sep 27, 2009 5:14:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive which many have a hard time with

[Sep 27, 2009 5:14:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive do I get in.. do I wait… does it have a chance of going higher if its up 50%???

[Sep 27, 2009 5:14:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive well if it ran 300% last time.. then yea.. probably

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:08 PM PDT] maniac can you filter it by tickers (ie give it a watchlist)

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:16 PM PDT] maniac ?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:17 PM PDT] moby2006 is that when one incorporates Muddys’ 20 BB and the RSI 2 > 90?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive don’t understand maniac

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:42 PM PDT] Muddy moby…i always check the scott qoutebox action

[Sep 27, 2009 5:15:42 PM PDT] maniac can you just get hods for a certain watchlist

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’m not sure check with Elite on Scottrade but not with Speedtrader

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so next…

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Gappers

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:23 PM PDT] moby2006 qoutebox, for what? higher asks? I don’t have quotebox

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Gappers have been HUGE in recent days

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VRMLQ is a primo example

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and that was even a great example of a former runner

[Sep 27, 2009 5:16:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for those who have been in chat for only a month..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:17:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive as soon as I saw it closing strong… and nearing that $5 break

[Sep 27, 2009 5:17:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on Thursday I said if this breaks $5… looking for the squeeze like last time.. and gapper

[Sep 27, 2009 5:17:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so what I look for is stocks closing within about 1% of their HOD

[Sep 27, 2009 5:17:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive only on OTCBB and pinksheets though

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive NYSE AMEX Nasdaq are hit or miss… SOMETIMES I’ll gap them like I did with CYTK that morning

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but I find they aren’t as predicatable

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what do I mean by gapping?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive take for example PWRM

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive my alert from Friday

[Sep 27, 2009 5:18:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive pull up the 1 minute chart

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive from 3:45 it was flat line and picked up into close

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this is a definate gapper… there is a good change this gaps thru .11 or .12 cents

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and easy $$ to pad you for the day

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive That’s what I look for..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EMGE similar to GVBP I said I was gapping each night

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:53 PM PDT] Laura and ran a few times 3 years ago I think

[Sep 27, 2009 5:19:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they pump pump pump over the nights.. to continue the momo

[Sep 27, 2009 5:20:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but here are the rules

[Sep 27, 2009 5:20:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it gaps HUGE, yes good to sell some immediately the way I look at it

[Sep 27, 2009 5:20:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive why not.. free $$ by holding over night

[Sep 27, 2009 5:20:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it gaps… like 5-10% and holds out of the open and continues moving up

[Sep 27, 2009 5:20:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like EMGE on Friday… its a hold

[Sep 27, 2009 5:21:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive when it starts to speed up.. start taking it off

[Sep 27, 2009 5:21:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and.. if it fails

[Sep 27, 2009 5:21:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it gaps.. and starts to head red.. I always just lock it in

[Sep 27, 2009 5:21:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive worst case make it back if it comes back red to green

[Sep 27, 2009 5:21:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I also don’t gap things that have traded less than 100 trades on the day

[Sep 27, 2009 5:22:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I have a minimum trade of 50 early in the AM

[Sep 27, 2009 5:22:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive change it to 75

[Sep 27, 2009 5:22:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then bump it to 100-150 towards close

[Sep 27, 2009 5:22:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive closing 0% or greater on the day (thus green stocks only)

[Sep 27, 2009 5:22:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and $75k-$100k + $ volume or more

[Sep 27, 2009 5:23:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that keeps you out of th eones that just happen to close near highs.. but really only 5 people know about them

[Sep 27, 2009 5:23:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and that’s how EDWY came on my scan Wednesday

[Sep 27, 2009 5:23:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz if it trades less than $75-100k its not very liquid for you to get in and out

[Sep 27, 2009 5:24:04 PM PDT] dhuertas do you also base your decision on news?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:24:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive usually find out about news after the fact

[Sep 27, 2009 5:24:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t care about news.. does no good if its not moving

[Sep 27, 2009 5:24:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive You can put out great news and if no one knows about it .. it won’t do anything

[Sep 27, 2009 5:24:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so alerts are set up for price action and volume

[Sep 27, 2009 5:25:11 PM PDT] springhill IL how do you determine number of trades for the day?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:25:34 PM PDT] dhuertas any other factors we should consider?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:25:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on my equityfeed scanner

[Sep 27, 2009 5:25:57 PM PDT] springhill TNX

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2009/09/24/how-we-completely-nailed-edoorways-corporation-edwypk/

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you look at the min chart

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on EDWY

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive nbarb mentioned the PR after the fact

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I use NO news service

[Sep 27, 2009 5:26:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t care about it

[Sep 27, 2009 5:27:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sometimes pre market.. yes news is good to know

[Sep 27, 2009 5:27:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy / L mention some pre market

[Sep 27, 2009 5:27:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on former runners or drug news

[Sep 27, 2009 5:27:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (as well as many others of course)

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any other questions regarding gappers?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I know many people love them based on the PMs

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz its a nice padding for the day right at 9:35

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive AM

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you can make a few hundred or like VRMLQ a few thousand

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:45 PM PDT] maniac any particular days of the week the best probabilistically?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:28:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive doesn’t matter for me..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:18 PM PDT] dhuertas on EDWY and PWRM when did you decided to sell?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive PWRM isn’t morning yet

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:46 PM PDT] dhuertas EDWY

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive PWRM is a gapper for Monday imo

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EDWY I followed same rules I gave you

[Sep 27, 2009 5:29:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive earlier

[Sep 27, 2009 5:30:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on what I do .. if it starts to head red, lock in profits

[Sep 27, 2009 5:30:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it gaps up big, take some off

[Sep 27, 2009 5:30:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it opens sideways a bit higher and starts hitting HODs, keep it

[Sep 27, 2009 5:30:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTN another example of a stock I said for gapper

[Sep 27, 2009 5:30:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on Tuesday

[Sep 27, 2009 5:31:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Here is chart

[Sep 27, 2009 5:31:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://bit.ly/kltQZ

[Sep 27, 2009 5:31:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive woops

[Sep 27, 2009 5:31:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive wrong one

[Sep 27, 2009 5:31:36 PM PDT] dhuertas how about on a slow down… PWRM during the afternoon slow down for quite some time after moving over 10 points… would you take some proffits at that point or let everything gap?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I wouldn’t be in a gapper pre-afternoon

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so not worth worrying about

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gappers are found in the last hour

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTN was my example: http://bit.ly/19mK9o

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that is the right bit.ly

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there’s one that opened, sligh gap… continuation

[Sep 27, 2009 5:32:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive slight*

[Sep 27, 2009 5:33:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so it opened a bit.. take some off.. held green and RIPPPPPP

[Sep 27, 2009 5:33:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I said gapper at .19 .. many bought next AM slight gap to .22 range

[Sep 27, 2009 5:33:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then took off almost to .30

[Sep 27, 2009 5:33:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so thats an example of each one

[Sep 27, 2009 5:33:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive One last thing I wanted to cover.. before Mud takes over

[Sep 27, 2009 5:34:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gotta get the chat log

[Sep 27, 2009 5:34:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Sep 25, 2009 7:55:22 AM PDT] InvestorsLive PWRM highs here just hit scan [Sep 25, 2009 7:55:35 AM PDT] InvestorsLive this chart looks just like EDWY set up [Sep 25, 2009 7:56:25 AM PDT] InvestorsLive EDWY: http://bit.ly/17oi07 PWRM: http://bit.ly/3ZEIoe

[Sep 27, 2009 5:35:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive notice those charts look exactly what I talk about in all seminars

[Sep 27, 2009 5:35:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and what I look for intraday on the 1 min chart

[Sep 27, 2009 5:35:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for ‘re-break/re-test HOD”

[Sep 27, 2009 5:35:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive see how it consolidates

[Sep 27, 2009 5:35:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sideways… and perks up off consolidation

[Sep 27, 2009 5:36:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same thing on the daily chart makes for a nice buy… same thing on the intraday 1 min chart..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:36:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same pattern diff time frames, that’s my gig

[Sep 27, 2009 5:36:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Any questions? confusion – HOD List / Gappers / Charts

[Sep 27, 2009 5:37:07 PM PDT] brenda4444 Are gappers less common in a bear market?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:37:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive eh, the size of the moves yes

[Sep 27, 2009 5:37:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but no, usually if OTCBBs close strong (or pinks)

[Sep 27, 2009 5:37:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there is some carry over

[Sep 27, 2009 5:37:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but yes, some of these gains we’ve been getting are unmatched

[Sep 27, 2009 5:38:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but its still a great strategy for a nice padding..

[Sep 27, 2009 5:38:21 PM PDT] evenkeel VSTN gapped up mid day but consolidated and stayed geen on the day ….that is one gig to watch?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:38:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTN was a gapper Tuesday evenkeel

[Sep 27, 2009 5:38:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not Weds

[Sep 27, 2009 5:38:59 PM PDT] maniac seems like these are manipulated stocks…which is why they gap

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:09 PM PDT] Ironman for the sideways price action where it perks up off consolidation, now say it doesnt perk up off the consolidation and you are in this play would you get out then immediately?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:15 PM PDT] Laura stocks can gap on news

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not all stocks are manipulated

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its supply and demand maniac

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:22 PM PDT] Laura VRMLQ gapped second day

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:33 PM PDT] Laura this has nothing to do with pumps per se

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive here’s the thing

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive people like to buy green stocks

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there are many stupid dumb sheep

[Sep 27, 2009 5:39:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive thinking they will make millions

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive off next EMGE GVBP cancer cure

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so when there are buys lined up

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:14 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 how do you know which stock lists to look at?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive pre market

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the demand is their, thus the market makers can buy/sell and make u pay premium

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive when the market opens

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:45 PM PDT] Laura hawkeyes, Muddy‘s blog shows you what he uses for watchlists

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive since there isn’t really a secondary market like there is in “pre market”

[Sep 27, 2009 5:40:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive hawkeyes – for gappers?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:03 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 ya

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive equityfeed

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive is where I scan

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive live streaming

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive past data doesn’t give u gappers, I posted how I scan for them above

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:32 PM PDT] Laura and we use the 8% up filter, dayrangers, and pre market

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you missed you can check logs

[Sep 27, 2009 5:41:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’ll post after

[Sep 27, 2009 5:42:23 PM PDT] brenda4444 are these good shorts on the first red day after the runup?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:42:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gappers?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:42:36 PM PDT] brenda4444 right

[Sep 27, 2009 5:42:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no idea they are penny stocks, I don’t short them

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what do I need $2.50/share margin for a .20 cent stock?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:09 PM PDT] Laura exactly

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive short 50k shares need 100k + to make $1k?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and risk to get called in to cover

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if the person I borrow from sells out

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive doesn’t make sense

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:36 PM PDT] Laura a lot of you may not know that you have to have 2.50 cash/margin per share on under $2.50 stocks

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:38 PM PDT] brenda4444 ah I see – thanks!

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:43 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 do you gap every day?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:51 PM PDT] Laura Okay, any questions for Muddy from last week’s seminar on the UBB breakouts?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:43:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if I find stocks

[Sep 27, 2009 5:44:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes let’s shift gears.. to UBB confusion’s after reviewing UBB stuff

[Sep 27, 2009 5:44:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive from last week

[Sep 27, 2009 5:44:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive thx guys PM me if other questions 🙂

[Sep 27, 2009 5:44:50 PM PDT] cwn6161 i’ve got a question for the UBB breakouts. for stock 10+, is 8% gain too much to look for? if so, whats a better %

[Sep 27, 2009 5:46:42 PM PDT] Muddy yes 8% probably is

[Sep 27, 2009 5:46:51 PM PDT] springhill Muddy, When stock is pierced by UBB how do you determine rite time to buy? U look at anything else to determine buy?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:46:53 PM PDT] Muddy it changes every week

[Sep 27, 2009 5:46:57 PM PDT] evenkeel EDWY had a fakeout breakout in Sept….. hanging UBB…what indicators are your strongest buy signal?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:47:24 PM PDT] Laura ok, enough questions for a minute until he answers these

[Sep 27, 2009 5:47:54 PM PDT] Muddy over $10,you can higher win ratio imo,but at a lower % gain

[Sep 27, 2009 5:48:15 PM PDT] Muddy in the past 5-6% seems the fot but…

[Sep 27, 2009 5:48:34 PM PDT] Muddy target*

[Sep 27, 2009 5:49:27 PM PDT] Muddy if you filter by % dayrange in the last week,you’ll have a betterchance at a higher gain

[Sep 27, 2009 5:49:53 PM PDT] Muddy thats why i scan these dayrangers once every weekend

[Sep 27, 2009 5:50:53 PM PDT] Laura evenkeel, EDWY, we only use the setup described last week, no other indicators, and it did gap up on the fail day but it went red

[Sep 27, 2009 5:51:04 PM PDT] evenkeel thnx

[Sep 27, 2009 5:51:43 PM PDT] Laura there’s so many pumps on the low penny stocks that it’s just not as stable a method sometimes with these

[Sep 27, 2009 5:52:16 PM PDT] Muddy right,now there are 2 new pumps on EDWY in the last few days

[Sep 27, 2009 5:53:32 PM PDT] Muddy springhill….on green the next day,quotebox action,volume spikes

[Sep 27, 2009 5:53:40 PM PDT] Muddy red to green

[Sep 27, 2009 5:54:05 PM PDT] evenkeel understood Laura

[Sep 27, 2009 5:54:08 PM PDT] Muddy how many times it bangs the old hod on the hod list

[Sep 27, 2009 5:54:51 PM PDT] Muddy if you’ve seen it a few times before,such as I’ve see EDWY do

[Sep 27, 2009 5:55:17 PM PDT] Muddy you want high rsi2 also on the candle pierce

[Sep 27, 2009 5:55:45 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 what is quotebox action?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:56:00 PM PDT] Muddy the ones in the 80’s dont have the strenght the ones at say 95 dp or even at 90

[Sep 27, 2009 5:56:34 PM PDT] Muddy qbox action is a few things….

[Sep 27, 2009 5:57:48 PM PDT] Muddy its the pretty wild flip on the BxA size and/or BxA exchange you see

[Sep 27, 2009 5:58:21 PM PDT] Muddy it’s also like watching level2 with the bids upping but not the ask

[Sep 27, 2009 5:58:55 PM PDT] Muddy also seeing a much HIGHER ask BRIEFLY then a drop back to original ask

[Sep 27, 2009 5:59:23 PM PDT] Muddy i have seen this so many times on scott

[Sep 27, 2009 5:59:28 PM PDT] evenkeel If the Ask does not increase that is a sign to lock in or bail?

[Sep 27, 2009 5:59:36 PM PDT] Muddy where all factors are there…

[Sep 27, 2009 6:00:03 PM PDT] Muddy and say seeing .15 briefly on a .08 stock

[Sep 27, 2009 6:00:37 PM PDT] Muddy many many times later in day the price+bid hits very near or at .15

[Sep 27, 2009 6:00:42 PM PDT] Muddy its a gift

[Sep 27, 2009 6:00:59 PM PDT] Muddy you’ll see a few in chat that follow this

[Sep 27, 2009 6:01:08 PM PDT] Muddy and we see the same thing

[Sep 27, 2009 6:01:34 PM PDT] Muddy evenkeel…thats often the time to get in

[Sep 27, 2009 6:02:03 PM PDT] Muddy you don’t want to get in higher than that ask once it starts that flip

[Sep 27, 2009 6:02:26 PM PDT] Muddy most give you 10 mins warning…this is great

[Sep 27, 2009 6:03:07 PM PDT] jrbikes Ive noticed on Scotts, that the watch list the stocks are in, if the price hits new hod, the small box with the price will turn yellow for a second, that could be a indication also?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:03:57 PM PDT] evenkeel 10 min warning?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:05:27 PM PDT] Muddy like it starts to run 10 mins later after that action

[Sep 27, 2009 6:06:05 PM PDT] Muddy you’ll see me often say a stock is banging old highs and or its teasting

[Sep 27, 2009 6:06:33 PM PDT] Muddy i only do it on stocks that are flippy,jumpy,jiggy

[Sep 27, 2009 6:06:47 PM PDT] Muddy watch how many take off a bit later

[Sep 27, 2009 6:07:08 PM PDT] Muddy i see it coming from years of watching the scott qbox

[Sep 27, 2009 6:07:29 PM PDT] Muddy anybody can do it imo with some watching

[Sep 27, 2009 6:08:14 PM PDT] Muddy jr, the yellow indicates a new hod

[Sep 27, 2009 6:08:27 PM PDT] evenkeel got it thnx

[Sep 27, 2009 6:09:09 PM PDT] jrbikes its really fast, sometimes I cant even make out the symbol by the time it goes away

[Sep 27, 2009 6:09:59 PM PDT] Laura the more stocks you know, the more you will catch

[Sep 27, 2009 6:10:34 PM PDT] Laura One thing…..when Muddy says gearing up, we both usually see the same thing on the hod list

[Sep 27, 2009 6:11:06 PM PDT] Laura A stock like KERX, if bid ask is .19/.20 say, you may see it rolling on the hod list, but every hit is at .20

[Sep 27, 2009 6:11:15 PM PDT] Laura that’s one way you see em

[Sep 27, 2009 6:11:30 PM PDT] Laura volume coming in and banging hod list is what he means

[Sep 27, 2009 6:11:46 PM PDT] jrbikes oh, thats simple

[Sep 27, 2009 6:12:13 PM PDT] Laura that;s when we put it in a quote box and watch it for a minute or two

[Sep 27, 2009 6:12:58 PM PDT] Laura Any more questions on this?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:14:16 PM PDT] evenkeel how do you know to hold after crossing 52?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:14:49 PM PDT] Muddy 52’s are the best holds imo…

[Sep 27, 2009 6:15:04 PM PDT] Muddy i only daytrade but if swung

[Sep 27, 2009 6:15:42 PM PDT] Muddy i’d just take a good progit when it hit its first red day if i had the profit

[Sep 27, 2009 6:15:52 PM PDT] Muddy then keep it on watch…

[Sep 27, 2009 6:16:19 PM PDT] cisco UBB next day entry depends upon what factors? because, many times stcoks pierces USS with high vol and RSI. But, it drops next day, sometimes even after turning green.

[Sep 27, 2009 6:16:19 PM PDT] evenkeel do they tend to run a certain % ?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:16:50 PM PDT] Muddy and for sure look for the pullback into the ema10/sma30 zone for re entry on green

[Sep 27, 2009 6:17:17 PM PDT] Muddy no certain percent

[Sep 27, 2009 6:17:26 PM PDT] evenkeel k

[Sep 27, 2009 6:17:41 PM PDT] Muddy but the ones that pull into that zone often go on to break new 5s

[Sep 27, 2009 6:17:48 PM PDT] Muddy 52s*

[Sep 27, 2009 6:18:31 PM PDT] evenkeel Do you use trailing stops on big runups?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:18:40 PM PDT] Muddy example DDRX on 4/21

[Sep 27, 2009 6:19:12 PM PDT] Muddy zone hit and off to new 52s over and over

[Sep 27, 2009 6:19:41 PM PDT] Muddy intraday trailing mentals,yes

[Sep 27, 2009 6:19:46 PM PDT] evenkeel k

[Sep 27, 2009 6:20:50 PM PDT] evenkeel DDRX I see

[Sep 27, 2009 6:21:05 PM PDT] Muddy everyone has to decide their own profit that seems comfortable

[Sep 27, 2009 6:21:28 PM PDT] Muddy me i just want a few 10%’ers a day

[Sep 27, 2009 6:21:44 PM PDT] evenkeel reason I ask is 8% scans

[Sep 27, 2009 6:22:00 PM PDT] jrbikes I see when they go to the Muddy zone, you can pull up a intrady chart at eod, and look for the 10/60 cross, you can see them on a narrow range daily candle, I thought that was cool

[Sep 27, 2009 6:23:22 PM PDT] Muddy evenkeel,you might have that 8% scan confused with the dayrangers?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:24:00 PM PDT] Muddy the 8% scan is only to find the gainers of the day and to look for sq/vol/break plays

[Sep 27, 2009 6:24:34 PM PDT] Muddy dayrangers are the ones that many times have a 15% range

[Sep 27, 2009 6:24:54 PM PDT] Muddy so red to green is important on those

[Sep 27, 2009 6:25:07 PM PDT] Muddy say stocks was down 3%…

[Sep 27, 2009 6:25:26 PM PDT] Muddy its average range is say 12%

[Sep 27, 2009 6:25:45 PM PDT] Muddy then with the momo to green you have 9% left

[Sep 27, 2009 6:25:58 PM PDT] Muddy on average

[Sep 27, 2009 6:26:31 PM PDT] evenkeel that is where you can get your 10%…thnx

[Sep 27, 2009 6:28:18 PM PDT] Muddy assuming it holds green,yes

[Sep 27, 2009 6:28:53 PM PDT] Muddy you can just put a stop if it touches red for a smaller loss if it fails to run

[Sep 27, 2009 6:29:13 PM PDT] Muddy that is same as trading around even marks for me

[Sep 27, 2009 6:29:25 PM PDT] Muddy say i enter on 3

[Sep 27, 2009 6:30:01 PM PDT] Muddy my stop will be around 2.93 if fails 3

[Sep 27, 2009 6:30:39 PM PDT] evenkeel anyway to guess where MM’s will try to wipe out stops?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:31:12 PM PDT] evenkeel thus the “mental stop”

[Sep 27, 2009 6:31:22 PM PDT] Laura don’t know

[Sep 27, 2009 6:31:27 PM PDT] Laura we don’t even use level 2

[Sep 27, 2009 6:31:46 PM PDT] evenkeel I tend to watch B/A action myself

[Sep 27, 2009 6:33:10 PM PDT] Laura any other questions guys?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:33:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive evenkeel – don’t worry about MMs wiping out stops

[Sep 27, 2009 6:33:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no reason to worry about it.. unless your playing $100k+ sizes in these $3 dollar stocks

[Sep 27, 2009 6:34:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I doubt they’ll care about your order my order or anyone elses

[Sep 27, 2009 6:34:39 PM PDT] evenkeel understood…thanx

[Sep 27, 2009 6:36:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guys have any other questions for me if none for Muddy?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:37:09 PM PDT] evenkeel If the Indices appear to be correcting dramatically do you SS ?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:37:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Havent looked at market for months now..

[Sep 27, 2009 6:37:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive only big red days w/ CENX

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive thats about it

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:22 PM PDT] dailyburn101 where do u think the general market is heading, is it going do a further pullback?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no idea, don’t care

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive where’s the edge?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:37 PM PDT] Laura we don’t worry about general market

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:39 PM PDT] trupik lol

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:41 PM PDT] Muddy a good zone chart to look at is that MPG lod bounce fri

[Sep 27, 2009 6:38:45 PM PDT] chillax QTWW and CHIP had big a.m,spikes the next day after big runups and then afternoon fades. Are these sh. squeezes and is this a pattern that could be applied to say LUNA?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:39:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive continuation of momentum..

[Sep 27, 2009 6:39:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive profit taking

[Sep 27, 2009 6:39:17 PM PDT] Muddy the tail on MPG got in the zone at 1.90

[Sep 27, 2009 6:39:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive let’s check MPG w/ Muddy here – b4 more questions

[Sep 27, 2009 6:39:43 PM PDT] Muddy AFTER it walked up the band a few days

[Sep 27, 2009 6:40:25 PM PDT] Muddy it also was a perfect sq/vol/break 9/15

[Sep 27, 2009 6:40:45 PM PDT] Muddy it had rsi2 95.5

[Sep 27, 2009 6:41:02 PM PDT] Muddy it had huge vol increase

[Sep 27, 2009 6:41:17 PM PDT] Muddy and look at the bb’s

[Sep 27, 2009 6:41:36 PM PDT] Muddy see how wide they were open then got tight

[Sep 27, 2009 6:42:11 PM PDT] Muddy then on 9/16 the “alligator jaws” just opened up

[Sep 27, 2009 6:43:16 PM PDT] Muddy and see 9/23

[Sep 27, 2009 6:43:29 PM PDT] Muddy see how it went from green to red

[Sep 27, 2009 6:43:53 PM PDT] Muddy and 9/23 was a red floater

[Sep 27, 2009 6:44:09 PM PDT] Muddy and it dropped more the next day

[Sep 27, 2009 6:44:25 PM PDT] Muddy right into the zone the tail went

[Sep 27, 2009 6:45:01 PM PDT] evenkeel red candle above BB 9/23 another red below 9/24 then green below UBB 9/25 what is the next buy signal?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:45:30 PM PDT] Muddy note that vol increase 9/15

[Sep 27, 2009 6:45:43 PM PDT] Muddy it was huge from the previous day

[Sep 27, 2009 6:46:10 PM PDT] Muddy and see the candle it is pierced nice

[Sep 27, 2009 6:46:37 PM PDT] Muddy it would on green if red

[Sep 27, 2009 6:47:26 PM PDT] evenkeel rsi(2) below 70 on 9/25 with steady volume

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:05 PM PDT] evenkeel above ema (10)

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:15 PM PDT] Laura after the fact there’s all kinda ways to play them and watch them

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:28 PM PDT] evenkeel true

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:40 PM PDT] Laura we’re just tryiing to show you the UBB and what you MAY see when they pull back to the zone

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:44 PM PDT] evenkeel good one to watch Monday

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:48 PM PDT] Laura every stock/chart different

[Sep 27, 2009 6:48:58 PM PDT] Laura sure, MPG a huge dayranger

[Sep 27, 2009 6:49:10 PM PDT] Laura this is how the dayrangers list comes in to it

[Sep 27, 2009 6:49:25 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 where is the dayranger list?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:49:48 PM PDT] Laura we ALWAYS have 40 dayrangers on watch for $1-10 and under $1, 40 each list

[Sep 27, 2009 6:49:52 PM PDT] Muddy add to the fact MPG is the 12th highest dayranger on the over $1 stocks

[Sep 27, 2009 6:50:04 PM PDT] evenkeel yes M & L…..I am starting to see your strategy…thnx

[Sep 27, 2009 6:50:23 PM PDT] Laura hawkeyes, scan is on the greenonthescreen blog for dayrangers

[Sep 27, 2009 6:50:28 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 what filter to get dayrangers? thanks

[Sep 27, 2009 6:50:51 PM PDT] Laura http://greenonthescreen.blogspot.com/2008/06/im-gonna-try.html

[Sep 27, 2009 6:50:58 PM PDT] Laura that post has all our scans

[Sep 27, 2009 6:51:56 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 thx

[Sep 27, 2009 6:52:51 PM PDT] evenkeel so which indicators would you be looking for Monday with MPG? g/r with volume and increasing rsi?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:05 PM PDT] evenkeel sorry r/g

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:10 PM PDT] Laura we dont watch RSI intraday

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:28 PM PDT] dailyburn101 L what indicators do you watch intraday?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:37 PM PDT] Laura you are assuming it starts red even

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:42 PM PDT] Laura evenkeel*

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:46 PM PDT] evenkeel yes

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:54 PM PDT] Laura any green, 3-% up or so

[Sep 27, 2009 6:53:58 PM PDT] evenkeel or below yest close

[Sep 27, 2009 6:54:19 PM PDT] Laura daily, we don’t watch much intraday but price and volume

[Sep 27, 2009 6:54:30 PM PDT] kjames113 LFBG has cleared ubb and all ma’s. It also has RSI2 of 98.based on these criteria I see a potential gapper. Anything I may be missing?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:54:57 PM PDT] evenkeel the 90 day rsi and BB are just confirmations of a trend?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:55:17 PM PDT] evenkeel and vol

[Sep 27, 2009 6:55:18 PM PDT] Laura no!

[Sep 27, 2009 6:55:26 PM PDT] Laura the may be the beginning of a trend

[Sep 27, 2009 6:55:35 PM PDT] evenkeel k

[Sep 27, 2009 6:55:59 PM PDT] Laura kjames, I think some bot on Friday at close on LFBG based on that, looking for gap

[Sep 27, 2009 6:56:10 PM PDT] kjames113 ok

[Sep 27, 2009 6:56:19 PM PDT] evenkeel I bot LFBG for that reason

[Sep 27, 2009 6:56:50 PM PDT] kjames113 great

[Sep 27, 2009 6:56:57 PM PDT] evenkeel lets hope

[Sep 27, 2009 6:57:35 PM PDT] dailyburn101 what tool will let you there is heavy volume pooring /unusual volume?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:57:45 PM PDT] dailyburn101 pouring*

[Sep 27, 2009 6:57:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive volume

[Sep 27, 2009 6:57:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on intraday chart

[Sep 27, 2009 6:58:01 PM PDT] Laura quote box, 1 min chart

[Sep 27, 2009 6:58:01 PM PDT] evenkeel 1min chart

[Sep 27, 2009 6:58:33 PM PDT] dailyburn101 is it possible to setup an alert for that?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:58:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for what?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:58:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what would u set?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’re watching them on the HOD list

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and u bring it up on ur charts

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u guys need to keep it SIMPLE

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s the hardest part about understanding it

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its a whole lot easier to keep it simple

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and that’s the hardest part people have understanding

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:40 PM PDT] Laura how to set a volume alert on all stocks?

[Sep 27, 2009 6:59:43 PM PDT] Laura can’t be done

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:00 PM PDT] JJB you can sort of do it with scottrade tradeideas

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:01 PM PDT] Laura like asking how to find the breakouts BEFORE they breakout

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u can scan for unusual vol on scans… which is part of my scan at night

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but not during day..

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:34 PM PDT] dailyburn101 duly noted

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:38 PM PDT] JJB with tradeideas you can get alerts for stocks moving on big volume

[Sep 27, 2009 7:00:57 PM PDT] evenkeel platforms will allow you to set an alert for a stock at your given price and they will email it to you….follow IL

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:04 PM PDT] Laura I’d bet by the time tradeideas has it, Muddy and IL are already in it

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:11 PM PDT] JJB indeed

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:24 PM PDT] Laura email alerts??

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:29 PM PDT] evenkeel ys

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:38 PM PDT] Laura might be fine for swing trading

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so u get an email after the fact 1 min later

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 1 min too late?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 🙂

[Sep 27, 2009 7:01:57 PM PDT] evenkeel I never use them and don’t check enough to work for me

[Sep 27, 2009 7:02:01 PM PDT] kjames113 I notice EFLN has had very high volume the last ten days with no price appreciation. Would you put something like that on your radar or only wait for the price to confirm?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:02:20 PM PDT] evenkeel like i said ..follow M&L & IL in here

[Sep 27, 2009 7:02:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive kjames – we put what shows on our scan on radar

[Sep 27, 2009 7:02:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive right evenkeel – so why use ’em

[Sep 27, 2009 7:02:52 PM PDT] evenkeel I never have

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EFLN ?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive nothing attractive about that

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:14 PM PDT] Laura hod list has it all if you know symbols, it has news, volume, and price

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its dilution

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:22 PM PDT] evenkeel just helping out my fellow student

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and downside price action

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the best advice is to keep it simple

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u guys ask about a zillion things but we tell u what we use

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:50 PM PDT] evenkeel agreed

[Sep 27, 2009 7:03:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and that’s that

[Sep 27, 2009 7:04:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the more stuff u use, the harder time ur gonna have

[Sep 27, 2009 7:04:28 PM PDT] Laura if MACD and 5 diff MAs work for you, fine

[Sep 27, 2009 7:04:31 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 on lfbg there is no spike increase in volume so why would this be a good gapper?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:04:45 PM PDT] Laura Like IL says, we just show you what we use

[Sep 27, 2009 7:04:50 PM PDT] evenkeel I set up my yahoo charts the way Laura said last week and it works great so far

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there is increased vol, pumpage, and upside price action

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on LFBG

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive forward looking event isnt there? f/s

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:22 PM PDT] evenkeel 3/2 f/s

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it closed near HOD, and dipped big Friday and made it all the way back

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:41 PM PDT] evenkeel bb pointed that out in chat also

[Sep 27, 2009 7:05:59 PM PDT] hawkeyes002 but i thought u compare volume to the previous day’s volume?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:06:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive did LFBG have higher than 75 tradeS?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:06:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive did it trade over $100K?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:06:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I said all this b4

[Sep 27, 2009 7:06:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I wasn’t here 2nd half of Friday so didnt really see its action – but I gave examples

[Sep 27, 2009 7:07:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive of what I look for for gappers

[Sep 27, 2009 7:07:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and 3 diff ideas after the gap or not gap

[Sep 27, 2009 7:07:41 PM PDT] Dre Is Muddy going to get to the part on how to play the pre…..

[Sep 27, 2009 7:08:03 PM PDT] Muddy yes i can

[Sep 27, 2009 7:08:14 PM PDT] Laura let’s move to that after IL finishes

[Sep 27, 2009 7:08:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we good to go!

[Sep 27, 2009 7:08:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 🙂

[Sep 27, 2009 7:08:45 PM PDT] Laura any specific questions on the pre since he covered it last week?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:09:16 PM PDT] kjames113 Do you ever buy in the pre or just use it as a scan for the open?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:10:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Mud waits til open – likes to study it for that hour … sometimes I buy but nothing more than a flip – 8am brings in vol /changes trend and 9:30 brings in vol/changes trend possibly

[Sep 27, 2009 7:10:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we like to see what it does, but he’s GREAT at reading Pre

[Sep 27, 2009 7:10:21 PM PDT] Muddy myself,i don’t trade pre

[Sep 27, 2009 7:10:30 PM PDT] evenkeel is there a certain amount of trades (T&S) you want to see in Pre to initiate a buy?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:10:37 PM PDT] Muddy i just as a scan

[Sep 27, 2009 7:11:26 PM PDT] Muddy i dont use T&S myself ,i just watch the vol changes

[Sep 27, 2009 7:12:09 PM PDT] evenkeel % change from previous days?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:13:01 PM PDT] evenkeel like Laura said these pumpers are so volatile

[Sep 27, 2009 7:13:19 PM PDT] Laura of course at % up from prior close in pre

[Sep 27, 2009 7:14:01 PM PDT] evenkeel do you peruse the stock pump sites to see which they are spewing?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:14:15 PM PDT] Laura we don’t “peruse” much

[Sep 27, 2009 7:14:33 PM PDT] Laura get em in emails, takes a sec to note which they are pumping

[Sep 27, 2009 7:14:41 PM PDT] evenkeel k

[Sep 27, 2009 7:15:03 PM PDT] evenkeel keeping it simple

[Sep 27, 2009 7:15:13 PM PDT] evenkeel ::smile

[Sep 27, 2009 7:16:26 PM PDT] Dre Orders coming from pre scan…placed before open or market after?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:16:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive can you give an example?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:17:20 PM PDT] Dre ETLY Friday…

[Sep 27, 2009 7:17:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and what about it

[Sep 27, 2009 7:17:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive pre market volume?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:17:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what do you mean “placed before open or market after”

[Sep 27, 2009 7:18:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:18:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ok – any other questions guys?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:18:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive brenda I see ya typing!

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:03 PM PDT] evenkeel All set and thanks so much for your time

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I REALLY REALLY suggest and I put it in the newsletter on purpose

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive with specific seminars highlighted

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive to review some

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:49 PM PDT] JJB i believe Dre is asking if you buy something in pre or wait until after market open to buy

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:50 PM PDT] brenda4444 oops cat paws sorry

[Sep 27, 2009 7:19:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its to YOUR benefit

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we just went over that pre stuff 10 min ago

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that exact question

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:22 PM PDT] Laura yes we did

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:44 PM PDT] JJB perhaps i misinterpreted then

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:52 PM PDT] BUDF0X When will the seminar be up for reviewing, srry i was late to the party

[Sep 27, 2009 7:20:53 PM PDT] Dre Sorry….Can’t buy a stock in pre…scan good…place order before open or at open with market?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:21:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t use market orders I use limit

[Sep 27, 2009 7:21:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy uses market when he buys.. most times

[Sep 27, 2009 7:21:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so its really what ur comfortable with

[Sep 27, 2009 7:22:01 PM PDT] Laura not anymore IL 😀

[Sep 27, 2009 7:22:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive hehe good

[Sep 27, 2009 7:22:33 PM PDT] Laura but hell yeah, when something’s screaming, we use market

[Sep 27, 2009 7:22:53 PM PDT] Ironman yes I had to use market on JAZZ breakouts

[Sep 27, 2009 7:22:56 PM PDT] Ironman so fast

[Sep 27, 2009 7:25:47 PM PDT] Dre I know we are paying…but thanks for the patience. Nite

[Sep 27, 2009 7:26:38 PM PDT] Laura Dre, we appreciate all of you, we have a community here

[Sep 27, 2009 7:27:47 PM PDT] brenda4444 more general question here – the focus is on longs at this point – how do you know if you need to change your strategy to more shorts – just by longs not working as well? Or do you see more green/red price action?

 

[Sep 27, 2009 7:28:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive when market is down 100-200 pts

[Sep 27, 2009 7:28:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we’ll prob find more longs

[Sep 27, 2009 7:28:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or until you start to see more break downs

[Sep 27, 2009 7:28:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like this past week

[Sep 27, 2009 7:28:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u see the $1 to $10 buckers start to give back 20% haircuts

[Sep 27, 2009 7:29:46 PM PDT] Laura yes, a year and a half, 2 years ago, we were doing nothing but shorting

[Sep 27, 2009 7:31:37 PM PDT] brenda4444 so no hod list then L?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:32:53 PM PDT] JJB hod list has lows too

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:02 PM PDT] brenda4444 oh right duh

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:05 PM PDT] kjames113 I am currently using options express but the commisions are high on the $1 and unders. Do you guys all use different brokers or the same?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive HOD list becomes a nice short list

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive back when it was all shorts it was great

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u monitoring th eHOD list..

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive when they start to go sideways

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and fail

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive bingo

[Sep 27, 2009 7:33:51 PM PDT] Laura 8% up scan becomes short watch list

[Sep 27, 2009 7:34:12 PM PDT] brenda4444 ah okay

[Sep 27, 2009 7:35:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive got my new PC.. mad fast

[Sep 27, 2009 7:36:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive only prob is after 10-15 min inactive i have to restart browser thinking its a time out issue

[Sep 27, 2009 7:36:33 PM PDT] cwn6161 what browser?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:36:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive all of ’em

[Sep 27, 2009 7:36:56 PM PDT] cwn6161 what OS?

[Sep 27, 2009 7:37:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive vista on this one

[Sep 27, 2009 7:37:37 PM PDT] cwn6161 sounds like its set to sleep or something if all browsers time out

[Sep 27, 2009 7:38:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ya .. but weird part is.. you think you could come back and it’d allow you to navigate pages

[Sep 27, 2009 7:38:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but it doesn’t until u reboot browser

[Sep 27, 2009 7:43:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive NHYT is titanstocks tomorrow

[Sep 27, 2009 7:43:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive usually has good flow

[Sep 27, 2009 7:44:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VRED dang

[Sep 27, 2009 7:44:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive saw that alert on Fri from PSC

[Sep 27, 2009 7:44:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive nice pump

[Sep 27, 2009 7:54:38 PM PDT] moby2006 I had to leave, is the seminar log up?

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