[Dec 4, 2011 8:41:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: How do I know when it’s time to short a stock and that it’s not going to go higher. I don’t want to guess.
[Dec 4, 2011 8:41:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANSWER: This is why I always push people to become familiar with the suggested reading prior to the seminars listed on the new member page (if none others only the top one that I push every day). BUT it’s all about the risk vs. reward. I like either a parabolic short on an overextended chart or a late day fade on an overextended chart. The only other time I’ll take a short is on a channel break down (much like the JVA example shown in the Vegas presentation).
[Dec 4, 2011 8:41:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive 1. Over extended chart parabolic – coming into the day it’s been up many days in a row relative to typical price action and off support by quite a bit. If gaps up in the morning and spikes relative to prior price action I’ll more than likely take that short.
[Dec 4, 2011 8:42:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive 2. Late day fade – I prefer over extended charts BUT not always necessary. If they’ve been up over the past week and have yet to pull back any flat line consolidation that ends in a weak fade I’ll take short the final hours of the day. Otherwise if a stock has been holding $X price each time it pulls back and this time it ends up breaking it, I’ll take that short or many times anticipate that break. http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/VXAEODJPVC.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:42:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive 3. Channel breakdown – a stock that may be up on the day that has been holding a trend all day (ie: flat line consolidation breaks a high pulls back … re-test that support, holds it again pops up … then re-test and fails to hold prior low)
[Dec 4, 2011 8:43:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’m going to answer all the member questions and then have a TON of visuals to go over
[Dec 4, 2011 8:43:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive any questions from what I said above?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:43:38 PM EST] tradernyc n
[Dec 4, 2011 8:43:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive gonig once….
[Dec 4, 2011 8:44:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive twice …
[Dec 4, 2011 8:44:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive none?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:44:16 PM EST] tradernyc sold
[Dec 4, 2011 8:44:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: A few days ago in chat (or on the scan, can’t remember which one) you mentioned that INHX needed to ‘speed up and squeeze’ before it topped. What made you think/know that it would play out like that and squeeze before it reversed?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:44:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANSWER: It’s been up quite a bit, no one can deny that … but it had yet to squeeze. Most of the time overextended charts tend to speed up at the end (parabolic) early shorts get squeezed start buying in, momentum traders take the long because it’s breaking highs but this wasn’t the case with INHX. The movement was a slow grind.
[Dec 4, 2011 8:45:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/KBSQPYFKIH.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:45:39 PM EST] InvestorsLive this is that day
[Dec 4, 2011 8:45:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive sucker never ‘sped up’
[Dec 4, 2011 8:45:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive just slow grind
[Dec 4, 2011 8:46:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive it’s my belief .. my way of trading that usually I look for that END rally … that LAST PUSH … parabolic move…
[Dec 4, 2011 8:46:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive put yourself on the other side of the trade for a min … you’re short at $12 …
[Dec 4, 2011 8:46:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive that point where it presses all your points
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive all your buttons
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive and you just say F it and cover
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive and it’s usually the top right?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive I try to put myself on THAT side of the trade and THAT thinking
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive when I’m thinking about entry
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive for a short
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive so these slow grinders like I covered last seminar with SINA when I took the big loss, if they never speed up
[Dec 4, 2011 8:47:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive DON’T ADD IN
[Dec 4, 2011 8:48:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive wait for it to fade put a top in, re-test fail and THEN ADD
[Dec 4, 2011 8:48:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive otherwise you can add all day and end up upside down
[Dec 4, 2011 8:48:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive Textbook chart stated in chat: http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/WZEYTUMGJF.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:48:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive the A B C D chart all should be familiar with
[Dec 4, 2011 8:49:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive (from the suggested reading for tonight)
[Dec 4, 2011 8:49:23 PM EST] LarryLivermore that squeeze that your talking about … is that what you think will happen with amwi?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:50:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive AMWI is nothing like Nasdaqs, I have no idea – if there is a short in AMWI they may cover we’ll see I’m talking about preditable chart patterns not OTC pumps
[Dec 4, 2011 8:50:18 PM EST] LarryLivermore ok
[Dec 4, 2011 8:50:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive sticking with INHX
[Dec 4, 2011 8:50:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive Another textbook chart I called the long on in chat and why I sold because it basically broke out and sped up my thought stated in chat was .50 magnet and sell into the pop http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/XDBHGQDOPA.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:50:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive Rather than a short, the slow grind and re-test of HODs
[Dec 4, 2011 8:51:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive the long call I had in chat … which also could have been a nice short as it ended up pulling back about .35-40 cents as well
[Dec 4, 2011 8:51:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive on the parabolic
[Dec 4, 2011 8:51:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive for those unfamiliar with teh charts those are the actual trade entry and exits DAS has that feature and plugs ur trades in
[Dec 4, 2011 8:51:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive Another look
[Dec 4, 2011 8:51:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive A look at a short I took into a parabolic spike – the stock had been up already was over extended came out of the AM first pop and then went parabolic and did about .50-.60 in a 1 minute candle so I took the pop and it fell right back so took the profits http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/XVVXPUYSDU.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:52:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive let it go outta the gate, mental idea = $13 whole number .. broke and held over $13 no reason to short and then went nearly to $14 within 2 bars
[Dec 4, 2011 8:52:51 PM EST] tradernyc so u took it on the 1st red candle
[Dec 4, 2011 8:52:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive so parabolic, typical that some profit taking will come in
[Dec 4, 2011 8:53:28 PM EST] jkjk77 what broker had shares INHX
[Dec 4, 2011 8:53:39 PM EST] InvestorsLive everyone has
[Dec 4, 2011 8:53:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive then one other look
[Dec 4, 2011 8:53:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive Red/green out of the morning (weak open) and slowly started popping, the move over $15 had a .20-.25 spike so I figured .50 area would be where the stock would speed up to but here’s why I said I wasn’t adding and didn’t add until it put in a top and started to fade. Slow and steady grind higher with NO speeding up. http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/KBSQPYFKIH.png
[Dec 4, 2011 8:54:00 PM EST] jkjk77 not et
[Dec 4, 2011 8:54:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive that’s cuz u have etrade….
[Dec 4, 2011 8:54:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/brokers/
[Dec 4, 2011 8:54:52 PM EST] jkjk77 et sucks for s/s
[Dec 4, 2011 8:55:14 PM EST] kpottsnc Whenever you refer to speeding up, are you talking about just price or price and volume?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:55:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive lets stay on topic vs. talking about %%%%*y brokers
[Dec 4, 2011 8:55:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’m talking about speeding up relative to prior price action
[Dec 4, 2011 8:56:27 PM EST] nicklomeli do you just look at red/green on the day (compared to the previous day) or do you look at red/green vs. the open for the day as well?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:57:26 PM EST] InvestorsLive r/g vs. the open is not red/green
[Dec 4, 2011 8:57:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive its all relative to prior close
[Dec 4, 2011 8:58:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive any further questions on that topic?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:58:24 PM EST] InvestorsLive stockhunter PM Please
[Dec 4, 2011 8:58:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Is there a chart pattern recognition system that recognizes the type of setup chart that you like for example the textbook type charts?
[Dec 4, 2011 8:58:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANSWER: Homework, that’s why we do scans!
[Dec 4, 2011 8:59:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive The key is to have the idea coming into the day
[Dec 4, 2011 8:59:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive if it’s just off scans, be able to pull up the daily chart
[Dec 4, 2011 8:59:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive and see what type it is
[Dec 4, 2011 8:59:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive over extended, bouncer etc
[Dec 4, 2011 8:59:39 PM EST] tradernyc But can u tell if a chart will be textbook by homework?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:00:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive over extended – and wait for one of the 3 ways I listed earlier
[Dec 4, 2011 9:01:24 PM EST] InvestorsLive but no, you can’t have it tell you what we like to see that’s why I show so many examples
[Dec 4, 2011 9:01:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive visually
[Dec 4, 2011 9:02:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Can you explain how to play washouts? Meaning how do you know when to go long or when to short the washout? I find myself trying to catch falling knives at times and sometimes I feel like shorting and it’s not the right time yet.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:02:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANSWER: Just flip a parabolic chart upside down, it’s just the opposite on the downside. Much like shorts panic and cover into upside, longs may panic and sell into downside. When the move accelerates that’s when I’m looking to snag. This is a VERY risky trade and would not suggest it to ANYONE who has to ask, when you’re ready to trade them you’ll know the risk at hand and take the risk on your own. I would not suggest this for an account builder.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive these take time and I really don’t suggest much like the OTCs
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive when you’re ready you’ll be making the call yourself
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive one of riskiest plays in da book
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive imagine FMCN buying the washout $22 to $18
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive and be in a halt at $9
[Dec 4, 2011 9:03:57 PM EST] tradernyc pretty scary
[Dec 4, 2011 9:04:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Most of the time IL doesn’t trade mid-day, but every once in a while he does (i.e. HDY mid-day fade on 11/29/11). Can you talk about when to and when not to take a trade mid-day?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:04:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANSWER: I only trade if I see a set up I’m comfortable with. For example HDY set up
[Dec 4, 2011 9:05:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/CJJLFZHMJC.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:05:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive closer look http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/WCXOOWTOIJ.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:06:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive the stock had it’s morning wrong, off a big move
[Dec 4, 2011 9:06:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive lack of vol and flat line mid day
[Dec 4, 2011 9:06:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive that crack … and we took it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:06:46 PM EST] tradernyc At what time would u take this trade on the chart?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:07:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive right on the crack after 11:30
[Dec 4, 2011 9:07:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive was early on I had first short it there
[Dec 4, 2011 9:07:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive then covered
[Dec 4, 2011 9:07:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive then re short it in the first example
[Dec 4, 2011 9:08:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/CJJLFZHMJC.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:08:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive before 1om
[Dec 4, 2011 9:08:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive pm
[Dec 4, 2011 9:09:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive any further questions on that example?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:09:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive if not I have a ton of visuals to go over
[Dec 4, 2011 9:09:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive that was it for the questions
[Dec 4, 2011 9:11:01 PM EST] dnvalid1 any reason didin’t short on 1115 crack?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:12:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive I did..
[Dec 4, 2011 9:12:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive (Dec 04-21:07) InvestorsLive: right on the crack after 11:30
[Dec 4, 2011 9:12:21 PM EST] dnvalid1 no, red candle about 1110
[Dec 4, 2011 9:12:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive wasn’t 15 past tho
[Dec 4, 2011 9:13:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive random quick drop?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:14:12 PM EST] dnvalid1 is that usually a sign of a drop about to come?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:14:25 PM EST] dnvalid1 when it washes out on high volume for 1 bar and then rebounds
[Dec 4, 2011 9:15:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive I try to take trades off set ups not just one random candle
[Dec 4, 2011 9:15:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive no reason to short it there, however is a reason once it starts to fade away
[Dec 4, 2011 9:16:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive INCY “textbook” called in chat http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/TSGWBRHXRR.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:17:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive Why? http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/RKWYDJCJUO.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:17:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive see the A B C D pattern?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:18:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive anyone left?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:18:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive or wondering what A B C D is
[Dec 4, 2011 9:18:41 PM EST] nicklomeli yes, please explain
[Dec 4, 2011 9:18:47 PM EST] Robyn yes. wondering what A B C D is
[Dec 4, 2011 9:18:59 PM EST] PrivatePhilco Yeah LOL I know i seen it somwhere in your site but i don’t rememger it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:19:24 PM EST] InvestorsLive only the one link I asked everyone to read and be familiar with
[Dec 4, 2011 9:19:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive before seminar tday
[Dec 4, 2011 9:19:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2011/12/01/december-4th-seminar-730pm/
[Dec 4, 2011 9:19:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive right at the top
[Dec 4, 2011 9:20:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive o well I’ll get slide number
[Dec 4, 2011 9:20:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive I don’t have image on this PC
[Dec 4, 2011 9:20:52 PM EST] PrivatePhilco Ah yeah The slide show
[Dec 4, 2011 9:21:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/1638/screenshot20111204at920.png
[Dec 4, 2011 9:21:41 PM EST] dre7dre7 So the buy in was about the $14 point? When it was over the morning push?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:21:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive I really wish in future if I ask you guys to be prepared for this and only ask you to read one thing
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive you would, it helps you – I’m trying to help you guys
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:24 PM EST] InvestorsLive so A B C D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive A = HOD outta the open or whatever the FIRST move is
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive morning mid day PM etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive D is whatever the base is
[Dec 4, 2011 9:22:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive I don’t know what it’ll be, it’s just where it bases
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive once it reverses off lows and starts to gear up
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive IF it holds a HIGHER low
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive and starts to perk back up again
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive from that point that it has a higher low
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive towards C
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’m interested in anticipating that C break
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive aka nHOD break
[Dec 4, 2011 9:23:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive so I will size in accordingly based on my risk at D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:24:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive INCY perfect example
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive and when I say text book that’s what I’m referring to
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:04 PM EST] PrivatePhilco But you will get in at C for the day b/o Not at B Or not?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive (Dec 04-21:23) InvestorsLive: I’m interested in anticipating that C break
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:24 PM EST] nicklomeli so you’ll get in prior to the break with smaller size, and then add when break occurs?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:26 PM EST] dre7dre7 So on that stock a .30 to .40 move is what you are looking for?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:25:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’m interested in anticipating it… so probably starting in prior to C with a known risk D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:26:14 PM EST] PrivatePhilco and if it tops out at C and cant get over ……. your out?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:26:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive I will long and if in full size prob take 1/2 off on the break and pop
[Dec 4, 2011 9:26:26 PM EST] InvestorsLive and give rest a chance
[Dec 4, 2011 9:26:32 PM EST] tradernyc No risk is D the base no
[Dec 4, 2011 9:26:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive or if it has a chart that has been waiting for this break on the daily maybe keep it and hold after it breaks C and re-test and hold
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive may add on a gear over C
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive tradernyc – No risk? since when is there no risk
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive D is the risk
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:23 PM EST] tradernyc No u dont get what i meant.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive so you size in accordingly
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive based on where u get in, size in accordingly
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:40 PM EST] PrivatePhilco Yeah D being the support if it goes back down
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive knowing that you’re ‘risk’ is D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:27:49 PM EST] tradernyc I was talking to Private he said if it doest break C so I sid the risk is D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:05 PM EST] tradernyc *said
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive dredre can u ask in a different way?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:12 PM EST] tradernyc u misunderstood me
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive don’t understand what you’re asking dre7
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:39 PM EST] jkjk77 D=buy
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive ugh
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive guys comon
[Dec 4, 2011 9:28:50 PM EST] SuperSev i guess hes saying when d0 u take profits
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive re read what I just wrote, I just explained where the buy would be for me
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:17 PM EST] dnvalid1 once it breaks C and you sell part – do you use C as your stop on the rest usually?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive no D is not the buy scroll up
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:25 PM EST] tradernyc D is risk if it break D you are out. that is it.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:35 PM EST] dre7dre7 You exit before the end of the day on that stock? WIth a .30 to .40 gain?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – (Dec 04-21:26) InvestorsLive: I will long and if in full size prob take 1/2 off on the break and pop
[Dec 4, 2011 9:29:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive will take prob 1/2 on the pop thru C
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:05 PM EST] Robyn D is where your mental stop is?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive dre7 – before the EOD ? I rarely hold anything over night
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive if at all
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive .30-.40/share gain could be nothing or could be something it’s all relative to the stock price
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive Robyn correct D = mental stop
[Dec 4, 2011 9:30:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive D is NOT KNOW prior to becoming D
[Dec 4, 2011 9:31:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive D tells us itself, it’s were it reverses gearing/perking
[Dec 4, 2011 9:31:20 PM EST] dnvalid1 IL – I know that part – question was where do you put stop on 2nd half? at C
[Dec 4, 2011 9:31:43 PM EST] dnvalid1 assuming you already broke C and sold 1/2
[Dec 4, 2011 9:31:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive depends on the chat – if its something thats set up for a big move I may hold as long as C holds, or back my entry
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive depends, whole # close, red/greenc lose? 52s etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive all that stuff, volume and make decision then
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive depending on price action
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:23 PM EST] dnvalid1 ic
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:26 PM EST] InvestorsLive but yes typically if it breaks back sub C
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’d take it off since the trade I was taking
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive is no longer holding
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive = next
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive guys I’m going to move on to the 3 topics I wanted to cover today that I forgot to mention at the start
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:57 PM EST] jkjk77 D=Fail or pop wait and see
[Dec 4, 2011 9:32:59 PM EST] autumnalcity do you ever manually sell (e.g. you see the overall market gearing against you and call it a high and out) or do you let a mental trailing stop get you out each time
[Dec 4, 2011 9:33:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive I really wish and want you guys to take it seriously when I push certain things to be read BEFORE seminars it helps you guys when i have lots of visuals b/c you’ve seen it before
[Dec 4, 2011 9:33:28 PM EST] tradernyc Everyone gets an F for not doing homework.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:33:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive autumnal – if the market is dropping/fading/cracking I prob won’t anticipate a breakout
[Dec 4, 2011 9:33:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive given the overall moral
[Dec 4, 2011 9:34:30 PM EST] autumnalcity right but if we break way above C how do you get out completely? is it ultimately a manual decision or a stop on a pullback a la trailing stop
[Dec 4, 2011 9:35:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive I lock in 1/2 and let the rest trade out
[Dec 4, 2011 9:35:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive alright going to the 3 main topics I wnated for tonight the problems I’ve seen in chat
[Dec 4, 2011 9:35:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive and the problems with you guys just taking what u want out of chat and not really paying attention to what I say
[Dec 4, 2011 9:35:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive 1. Don’t understand scaling, if a typical stop would be .20 cents and I’m in 1/4 or 1/2 that means that stop is widened until I’m ‘sized’ in. Subscribers who take scale in plays and don’t bother scaling in but rather take the trade right away and don’t let it pan out since they’re in full size. I like to get a FEEL for stocks and you can’t get a FEEL for stocks unless you have some skin and emotions in the game. It zones you in, you watch, stalk and nail. Some subscribers have just gone in full size because that’s what they want to do and don’t pay attention to the fact that a) it has a big range b) it could still squeeze a bit more and c) this is an average in play not one hit wonder
[Dec 4, 2011 9:36:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive We are in a crazy market right now I will NOT go in full sizes on the first entry until we get back to 20-30 pt swings in the INDU
[Dec 4, 2011 9:36:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive if we ever do, right now we have 100s of range in the INDU
[Dec 4, 2011 9:36:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive SPY is all over, you can be right one minute and wrong 20 min later b/c Greece this or Banks that
[Dec 4, 2011 9:36:51 PM EST] jkjk77 Give us you top 2 plays in the a.m.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:37:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive enough
[Dec 4, 2011 9:37:42 PM EST] superfly15 guys use your brains
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive (just mutin’ the ones who do what they want) 🙂
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive You guys need to understand this stuff we are playing HIGH DAY RANGE STOCKS
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive and in THIS market
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive Sure many times I can nail stuff to the HOD
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive or to the penny whatever
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’ve had a lot of good plays but
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive The market also sometimes has such range … you can’t just go in and nail it … cuz you’ll get eaten
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive like I did on SINA
[Dec 4, 2011 9:38:56 PM EST] PrivatePhilco I have learned to scale into trades since i got into this chat. It really can save you or make you more money.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:39:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I say I am starting into a position
[Dec 4, 2011 9:39:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive 1/4 or 1/3 size
[Dec 4, 2011 9:39:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive lets say PCX
[Dec 4, 2011 9:39:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive I typically may play 3-4k shares on something with that range
[Dec 4, 2011 9:39:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive full size and probably go for a .30-.40 cent move if I nail it vs. .15 risk
[Dec 4, 2011 9:40:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I am starting in 1/3 size then I’m in 1k and my risk may be .30-.35
[Dec 4, 2011 9:40:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive vs if I went in 3k and my risk is .10-15 max
[Dec 4, 2011 9:40:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive I may not nail it to a T .. so I’m in smaller so I can be PATIENT and let the trade pan out
[Dec 4, 2011 9:40:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive once it either fails at another high or starts to fade off I can choose to add from there
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive also I dont always go full size after starting in … for example DEXO
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive Friday made $1k
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive started in 1/4 size … 5k shares
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive had I gone 20k shares i would have stopped out near 1.90
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive for fear of $2
[Dec 4, 2011 9:41:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive so gives me patience etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive also once its working you can add
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive w/ houses money
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive so if I’m up $500 can add in $5k more when it looks to crack the next time
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:26 PM EST] InvestorsLive and now $500 unrealized …. and double in
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:33 PM EST] Laura or w/wedding money
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:39 PM EST] InvestorsLive 5k more not $5k *
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:42 PM EST] LarryLivermore lol
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive ha
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive but you get the point houses $$ and risk that way
[Dec 4, 2011 9:42:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive basically the point is .. in THIS market
[Dec 4, 2011 9:43:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I am in FULL size
[Dec 4, 2011 9:43:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive I want to have houses money on my side
[Dec 4, 2011 9:43:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive do you get scaling in? do you get what i am saying? nothing worse than seeing people get burnt up when I say am starting into something SMALL
[Dec 4, 2011 9:43:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive and they go in full size and get smoked
[Dec 4, 2011 9:43:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive then I let it pan out, add in and nail it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive b/c that was the plan
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive that’s why when I am playing a WIDE ranging stock
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive I write like 3 TIMES
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive STARTER *** STARTED IN *** etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive cuz I know people don’t read
[Dec 4, 2011 9:44:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive not all of you …… 🙂
[Dec 4, 2011 9:45:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive Any questions related to scaling in guys?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:45:02 PM EST] PrivatePhilco I really appreciate that you do write in all your scale in’s
[Dec 4, 2011 9:45:11 PM EST] hurleydood when the trade is going your way and your 1/4th in, when do you add in
[Dec 4, 2011 9:45:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive if it looks ready to crack/breakout again
[Dec 4, 2011 9:45:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive HDY for example that chart we looked at earlier ..
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive lets say short at 3.50 …. and then sideways 3.40 all day and it starts going 3.39 .. 3.38 … starting to get into afternoon fade
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’d add short all day
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:27 PM EST] Robyn say you start in & it goes way against you like 70 cents. somehow you add & nail. are you adding double? idk how you are making all that money on those
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:44 PM EST] BuffettMoney so basically u start in 1/4 ….let it go up watch it and if it dont go lower than a certain stop limit . u will add another 4 until u feel it is breaking out
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:46 PM EST] Robyn im thinking maybe ANR was one of those this week.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I am in a starter to get a feel for it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANR 2k full size, was in 500
[Dec 4, 2011 9:46:59 PM EST] BuffettMoney and once u have that feeling u go full size in
[Dec 4, 2011 9:47:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive then added 500 1k or sumthing
[Dec 4, 2011 9:47:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive but for me I like to get in the stock with some to get a feel for it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:05 PM EST] BuffettMoney let me ask u this how far down do u normally put your stop losses
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive ANR was 23.70 to 24.20 area … on 500 then it topped and zoinked it 24s for the fade abck under
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:15 PM EST] BuffettMoney .10- below
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive I use mental stop losses
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:21 PM EST] BuffettMoney or .05 below
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I am in a starter or 1/4 size can’t be 2 close whatever my typical mental stop would be is widened by 4 x
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:46 PM EST] BuffettMoney ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive and u can’t place a .05-.10 stop
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive on all
[Dec 4, 2011 9:48:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive its all relative
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive will a .05 stop work on AAPL?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive what about .05 stop on AMWI ?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:24 PM EST] MilesJStoner UAL a good example of small start, and got moved against
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive UAL did exactly what I wrote on scan Thursday
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive I said I expected it to test $20
[Dec 4, 2011 9:49:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive hit 19.87
[Dec 4, 2011 9:50:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive sure I started **STARTED** in
[Dec 4, 2011 9:50:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive way early get a feel for how it was trading
[Dec 4, 2011 9:50:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive but everyoen wonders whats plan, what u think how high .. but no one reads scans
[Dec 4, 2011 9:50:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive ok next subject
[Dec 4, 2011 9:50:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive 2. Subscribers like to give plays ‘a bit longer’ but don’t take into account market action if the volume slows and price trend continues opposite direction you want – it’s OK to lock in some gains who cares about commissions it’s part of the cost of doing business, think about how many times you were too cheap because you didn’t want to spend $4.95 and cover 1/3 or 1/2 and instead turned it into a $50, $100 or $200 loss, which was the cheaper alternative? ALSO one biggy, forcing that EXTRA trade and forced to hold due to PDT
[Dec 4, 2011 9:51:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive I have a high % win rate and I have like to trade with locked in money … because it gives me more patience
[Dec 4, 2011 9:51:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive because of this
[Dec 4, 2011 9:52:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive if you think a stock is going to bust out … u buy .. it does and pops … WHY NOT PAY YOURSELF SOME
[Dec 4, 2011 9:52:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive worst case it goes back to your entry and you’re still up
[Dec 4, 2011 9:52:56 PM EST] PrivatePhilco Yeah And that does happen lots
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive I dunno how many people I’ve spoke to …
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive they rather have Scottrade
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive Etrade
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive Zecco
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive cuz they are so concerned about $4 dollars
[Dec 4, 2011 9:53:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive or saving $3
[Dec 4, 2011 9:54:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive traders ALL AROUND are more concerned about the comission of trades than the product itself or the point of trading (ie: locking in)
[Dec 4, 2011 9:54:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive this is a problem, and I’m bascally saying… it’s ok to spend a commission it’s part of the game
[Dec 4, 2011 9:54:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive that time you were too cheap to take 1/2 off cuz it was going to cost you $5 bucks
[Dec 4, 2011 9:55:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive well now you’re dwon $50 because you didn’t lock 1/2 in
[Dec 4, 2011 9:55:24 PM EST] SuperSev ends up costing you hundreds cuz you let profits slip or actually turned into a loss……
[Dec 4, 2011 9:55:41 PM EST] SuperSev yup i think we all agree IL
[Dec 4, 2011 9:55:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive Lastly
[Dec 4, 2011 9:55:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive It’s NOT ALWAYS a short just because it’s up. Why is it a short? When do you need to protect? What would cause it to change into a long? Just because they have no cash, dilution etc does NOT mean it’s a short. These are the things when you know TOO much that can cause you to lose your shirt. Yes, sure it pays to know things sometimes there is an alternative argument to what I just said but as a TRADER … more often than not I’m happier just trading the price trend, when I know too much about a company I start rationalizing dumb ideas and lose money.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:56:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive like OPTR back in the day Miles I think was stubborn on it
[Dec 4, 2011 9:56:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive I sure as hell was
[Dec 4, 2011 9:56:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive kept going up every day but we kept wanting to fight
[Dec 4, 2011 9:56:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive and I lost like $200-300 a day Miles I think he just held for like 5 days kept going cuz thought proces “its up so much how much higher can it go”
[Dec 4, 2011 9:56:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive well which one does that relate to that we are trading right now?
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:26 PM EST] PrivatePhilco NFLX did it to me
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:30 PM EST] splendores Inhx
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive nope
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive yes !
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:35 PM EST] dnvalid1 PYCY
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive INHX
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive exactly INHX …. keeps going up green each day
[Dec 4, 2011 9:57:57 PM EST] splendores Panl remember that
[Dec 4, 2011 9:58:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive JUST because its up doesn’t mean it has to come back
[Dec 4, 2011 9:58:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive Oh one more
[Dec 4, 2011 9:58:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive Know when to pull back, know your strengths, know your weaknesses. When to pull your foot off the gas before getting over confident.
[Dec 4, 2011 9:58:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive I had a hot as hell November, this whole chat did
[Dec 4, 2011 9:58:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive but … I ate Sh*t on the last day
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive because I figured I was on a roll, I’ll just let it trade out… it SHOULD come back etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive ended up giving back like $4k
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive plus crap on options
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive because I got sloppy SO
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive I wired out a bunch of Nov profits back to basics before I pull a SINA etc
[Dec 4, 2011 9:59:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive its about realizing when to pull back .. go back to the few hundo profits and get hot again….
[Dec 4, 2011 10:00:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive for example DEXO I prob wouldnt trade 20k on a regular day after a slow few weeks
[Dec 4, 2011 10:00:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive or bigger for that matter
[Dec 4, 2011 10:00:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive but will after some hot weeks
[Dec 4, 2011 10:01:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive Oh and one more thing before everyone goes to bed, http://investimonials.com/websites/reviews-investors-underground-live-trading-chatroom.aspx always appreciated ……. please leave one!
[Dec 4, 2011 10:01:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive but I’m not done here.. still have time just finishing the scan….
[Dec 4, 2011 10:01:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive any othe questions guys?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:02:47 PM EST] dnvalid1 is there an option in this chat to have every comment time stamped?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive options
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive yes
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:08 PM EST] lerand First one under “options”
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:10 PM EST] bvocal yes, under options
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive You know they are all time stamped in the chat logs right?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:40 PM EST] dnvalid1 yea, but help intra day for those of us that work and cant sit at CPU the whole time
[Dec 4, 2011 10:03:47 PM EST] dnvalid1 thx
[Dec 4, 2011 10:04:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive and we’ll have more features too I’m working on a new chat non-java
[Dec 4, 2011 10:04:35 PM EST] tradernyc Good then it will work on an Ipad
[Dec 4, 2011 10:06:26 PM EST] basher i had a question regarding how you get your bias when you’re doing your scans. how do you know, when it opens weak, whether or not you want to get long or short
[Dec 4, 2011 10:07:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive depends on chart coming into the day
[Dec 4, 2011 10:07:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive but stuff like ZINC PCYC etc
[Dec 4, 2011 10:07:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive in the AM lower vol
[Dec 4, 2011 10:07:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive I was a lil pre mature on some this week …
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive until I slowed down trading thurs and fri
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:06 PM EST] tradernyc Il we shorting PCYC tommorow correct Im sure its on scan.
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive but most times let it trade out the first 15 min and start to tell you
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive or long if weak open
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive and r/g
[Dec 4, 2011 10:08:51 PM EST] basher yeah but recently you’ve been putting on some shorts in the first 5-10 minutes
[Dec 4, 2011 10:09:40 PM EST] basher you’re very much short biased and are adding into pops
[Dec 4, 2011 10:09:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive yea just starts
[Dec 4, 2011 10:09:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive usually just tiny in the AM and then nail the s/s but
[Dec 4, 2011 10:10:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive that’s what I was saying early
[Dec 4, 2011 10:10:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive when to chill
[Dec 4, 2011 10:10:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive been so hot….
[Dec 4, 2011 10:10:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive sorta need to sit on my hands first 10-15 min
[Dec 4, 2011 10:10:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive been quick to the buttons past few days …. and on my adds with 3/4 size or the rest …. = perfect
[Dec 4, 2011 10:11:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive without the early starter .. would been less time wasted
[Dec 4, 2011 10:11:13 PM EST] PrivatePhilco I would just like to add a comment for the day chat, please ppl, say what you mean. Just calling out a ticker with nothing else does not help anyone. And I need all the help I can get…….
[Dec 4, 2011 10:12:03 PM EST] wcwc69 can people also stop with the sarcasm
[Dec 4, 2011 10:12:33 PM EST] Laura the more tickers you know, and the more you follow the watch lists, the more helpful are the alerts
[Dec 4, 2011 10:12:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive exactly
[Dec 4, 2011 10:12:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive the homework is what makes the tikcers meaningful
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:13 PM EST] wcwc69 people here just do it way overboard. it’s an internet chat, people can’t tell the tone of your voice
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:13 PM EST] Laura but agree, the sarcasm could go for sure
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:14 PM EST] basher so only time you would go long in the morning is on a washout or a bounce play (GRPN)?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive wcwc69 – I only give and allow warranted sarcasm
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:35 PM EST] basher if it just sits there and consolidates, would you take it long for r/g or short or do nothing or it depends?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:13:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive if unwarranted sarcasm I give warranted sarcasm back
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive yea basher stuff like that stuff with a plan
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive first 15 min for me = scalp modes
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive after that its watch for set ups
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive and stuff familiar to you
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive anything else I can help with guys?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:46 PM EST] wcwc69 well sometimes i can’t even tell if someone’s trying to be sarcastic or not
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:50 PM EST] autumnalcity this has been great, thanks Nate
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive np autumn
[Dec 4, 2011 10:14:59 PM EST] Robyn thanks & we do take it seriously 🙂
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive INVESTIMONIALS !!!!!!!!!!!!
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:16 PM EST] Robyn i read thru the seminar ?s & didn’t see the part about reviewing any charts
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:34 PM EST] SuperSev best seminar in a while nate!! thanks!
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive charts are on the powerpoint Robyn
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive thats in the first one suggested
[Dec 4, 2011 10:15:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://investimonials.com/websites/reviews-investors-underground-live-trading-chatroom.aspx
[Dec 4, 2011 10:16:23 PM EST] brandon How often do you usually buy vs s/s?
[Dec 4, 2011 10:16:37 PM EST] PrivatePhilco I just get information overload. I look at all the scans and write on my paper infront of the comp, but I can only watch so much for now. As I get more exp. i’m sure i will be able to do more.
[Dec 4, 2011 10:16:46 PM EST] Robyn this was very helpful, thanks again
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive brandon – just view profit.ky
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive profit.ly
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive no idea
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:19 PM EST] brandon Oh, duh alright. I know some people prefer one over the other. Was just curious.
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive id say 70/30
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I had to guess
[Dec 4, 2011 10:18:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive s/s 70
[Dec 4, 2011 10:20:18 PM EST] bvocal ::beer cheers all, GN
[Dec 4, 2011 10:21:05 PM EST] moneymag Thxs GN all rest up for a BIG week
[Dec 4, 2011 10:23:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive make sure u surf investimonials b4 bed!!
[Dec 4, 2011 10:23:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive u should relax before bed….
[Dec 4, 2011 10:23:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive put that mind to rest
[Dec 4, 2011 10:23:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive 😛
[Dec 4, 2011 10:25:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2011/12/04/scans-for-120511-from-InvestorsLive/
[Dec 4, 2011 10:25:28 PM EST] rude1 ::beer
[Dec 4, 2011 10:45:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive jar !! thx for review $$$ ::beer
[Dec 4, 2011 10:52:29 PM EST] MilesJStoner http://www.boomwin.com/2011/12/dec-5-mon-christmas-month.html
[Dec 5, 2011 12:08:32 AM EST] Jaymo hah, tradinghub guy is back at it.. pulling straight from your scans http://www.tradinghub.co/2011/12/04/stocks-to-watch-dec-5th-2011/
[Dec 5, 2011 12:17:31 AM EST] Nate Son of a biatch
[Dec 5, 2011 12:17:46 AM EST] Nate Does he have twitter I’m gonna tweet him
[Dec 5, 2011 12:19:44 AM EST] Nate Found it
[Dec 5, 2011 12:24:54 AM EST] Jaymo ridiculous, I wonder if it’s someone in here or just a rando
[Dec 5, 2011 12:31:19 AM EST] WinGit Nate, where can I find the link to tonite’s powerpoint. I missed it.
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