[Sep 20, 2009 5:01:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Welcome guys
[Sep 20, 2009 5:01:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same format as usual, I didn’t get too many questions but we’ll cover those quickly and then Muddy is going to take the wheel and cover a bunch of topics
[Sep 20, 2009 5:01:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Including:
[Sep 20, 2009 5:01:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive UBB – Bollinger bands bollinger bands bollinger bands Former Runners Former ZERO Volume Plays Day Rangers How to Play Pre Market Finds (Late Hits)
[Sep 20, 2009 5:02:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so as usual, please don’t talk in channel.. unless on topic for each thing covered
[Sep 20, 2009 5:02:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you can always just PM me if u have further questions
[Sep 20, 2009 5:02:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and we’ll work it in
[Sep 20, 2009 5:02:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Question: What clues tell you that a stock is probably going to gap up the next day?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:02:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Past 2 weeks has been pretty crazy for gappers… you’ll notice all the gapper calls I make are not Nasdaq/NYSE/AMEX
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they don’t work as well .. it’s hit or miss with them
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they are for OTCBB/Pinksheets
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 8/9 outta 10 times they’ll carry their momentum thru the night
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and gap up the next morning
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VRMLQ was a good first example which really kicked off this great gapper run we’ve had
[Sep 20, 2009 5:03:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive news 45 minutes til close on a Friday
[Sep 20, 2009 5:04:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and it ran into the close, I said 100% gapper.. why.. strong close.. shorts… bankrupt stock etc
[Sep 20, 2009 5:04:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive more than likely opens higher than it closed
[Sep 20, 2009 5:04:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive a few others… IMGG / PTSC
[Sep 20, 2009 5:04:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and then LGDI
[Sep 20, 2009 5:04:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive PTSC a good example there is the day it closed at .28
[Sep 20, 2009 5:05:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the next “area of interest” is .30 cents
[Sep 20, 2009 5:05:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive highly probable its gonna take out the .30s on the open.. prob open higher
[Sep 20, 2009 5:05:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so that’s what I look for
[Sep 20, 2009 5:05:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive stocks closing near .90-.95s… prob open above a buck
[Sep 20, 2009 5:05:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the last one.. another example of “next break” is
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SNDY
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I know it was a subber. but I tweeted it .. Muddy actually nailed it but
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it closed strong.. closed at .008
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive next area?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive .01
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so good chance it opens around there or at least everyone is in the mind set the next mornnig for the .01 break.. that’s how peopel think
[Sep 20, 2009 5:06:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive fortunately… we opened up 250% and it was pretty sick
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive next
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive question
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Question: I can filter my HOD list (I use Power Etrade Pro) by exchange. Is it correct that the vast majority of the dayranger stocks are NASDAQ or OTCBB, and I could thus filter out the NYSE and AMEX stocks?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Personally
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I keep OTCBB/Pinks seperate
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and Nasdaq/NYSE/AMEX together
[Sep 20, 2009 5:07:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Yes most are Nasdaq but no I don’t weed those out
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I just use 75,000 volume +
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:05 PM PDT] Laura dayrangers are all exchanges
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yup
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I use 75,000 volume plus and a $30 dollar limit
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive because sometimes you can catch some nice ones like FIRE the other day in th $25 range
[Sep 20, 2009 5:08:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 75,000 keeps out the junk
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any questions on those past 2 questions so far?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:19 PM PDT] 15minoffame IL, 75,000 over any certain period…
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for the day
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive HOD list is daily
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its live
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:40 PM PDT] ultimachi This is on the speedtrader platform right?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:09:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no they are talking about Power Etrade Pro
[Sep 20, 2009 5:10:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but yes same applies to SpeedTrader
[Sep 20, 2009 5:10:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and if u can on Scottrade
[Sep 20, 2009 5:10:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I filter.. I don’t think Muddy does .. he caught that one Friday that was low vol that ran to a buck real quick
[Sep 20, 2009 5:10:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but had 50k ish vol
[Sep 20, 2009 5:11:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Question: Knowledge of former runners seems indispensable, so I’m working on building a watchlist to help memorize (and have for reference) the consistent dayranger/high volatility stocks. Am I correct in understanding that StockFetcher Combo scan would be the best filter to run to find such stocks to build a longterm list? Or is there another SF or StockHouse scan that would be better?
[Sep 20, 2009 5:12:04 PM PDT] spokunfor I like equityfeed
[Sep 20, 2009 5:12:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Stockhouse I use to find what’s moving, or about to move based on some criteria like abnormal volume up X% because I’m interested in stocks that have bumped in recent days – Muddy / L best for the combo scan stuff
[Sep 20, 2009 5:12:44 PM PDT] Muddy agree..Combo scan to learn the former runners for sure..and need to only run once a week
[Sep 20, 2009 5:13:31 PM PDT] Muddy same with high dayrangers but Combo is tops imo to learn former runners
[Sep 20, 2009 5:13:55 PM PDT] Muddy you want to seperate the price ranges
[Sep 20, 2009 5:14:12 PM PDT] Muddy under 1 and 1-10
[Sep 20, 2009 5:14:24 PM PDT] spokunfor Muddy..i hit your link to combo..but wouldn’t go thru…where can i find it
[Sep 20, 2009 5:14:26 PM PDT] Muddy this is important
[Sep 20, 2009 5:15:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2009/01/27/the-combo-scan/
[Sep 20, 2009 5:15:52 PM PDT] spokunfor thx
[Sep 20, 2009 5:16:44 PM PDT] Muddy combo is the basic rfr scan with cheery picking the highest adr’s
[Sep 20, 2009 5:18:09 PM PDT] Muddy before we start…let me say that my methods may not be for everyone but since 90% of new traders lose $.and 90% use the same old same old….
[Sep 20, 2009 5:18:43 PM PDT] Muddy you might find an edge with my stuff…even in just 1 area
[Sep 20, 2009 5:19:23 PM PDT] Muddy i know i have…and i feel i have a huge edge over most folks with this stuff…
[Sep 20, 2009 5:19:55 PM PDT] Muddy it may open your eyes to a diffferent way of looking at stock trading
[Sep 20, 2009 5:21:02 PM PDT] Muddy the combo scan ,rfr give tyou really good odds imo in alot of situations
[Sep 20, 2009 5:21:47 PM PDT] Muddy PLUS and what we said before,you get to see the ones that are former runners
[Sep 20, 2009 5:22:10 PM PDT] Muddy BOCX i played back in /03/04
[Sep 20, 2009 5:23:07 PM PDT] Muddy i remembered all the way back from then when it was hot back then,because i ran the 8%+ scan back then on SF
[Sep 20, 2009 5:23:38 PM PDT] Muddy now we have even better tools with the combo
[Sep 20, 2009 5:24:35 PM PDT] Muddy i run that 8% scan every night and chart the ones i don’t know
[Sep 20, 2009 5:25:01 PM PDT] Muddy like 250 nights a year,without fail
[Sep 20, 2009 5:25:11 PM PDT] Muddy since 02
[Sep 20, 2009 5:25:17 PM PDT] Laura I’ll vouch for that, he does, religously
[Sep 20, 2009 5:25:30 PM PDT] Laura and that’s how you get to know thousands of symbols
[Sep 20, 2009 5:25:51 PM PDT] Muddy and i do have that many in my head
[Sep 20, 2009 5:26:08 PM PDT] Muddy take SPDE for example the last 2 weeks
[Sep 20, 2009 5:26:37 PM PDT] Muddy as soon as i saw it hit pre…my mind knew it could be huge
[Sep 20, 2009 5:26:50 PM PDT] Muddy low float runnner from years ago
[Sep 20, 2009 5:27:28 PM PDT] Muddy the qbox on Scott if you have it,will show the float if you dont know it from past
[Sep 20, 2009 5:31:10 PM PDT] Muddy so,the 8%+ scan,rfr,combo scan are the ones to run…do’t be overwhelmed at first cause good news is..
[Sep 20, 2009 5:31:34 PM PDT] Muddy that you only need to run the rfr,combo once a week
[Sep 20, 2009 5:31:42 PM PDT] Muddy its overkill to do more
[Sep 20, 2009 5:32:01 PM PDT] Muddy cause they hardly change week from week
[Sep 20, 2009 5:32:11 PM PDT] Muddy even bi/monthly works
[Sep 20, 2009 5:32:32 PM PDT] Muddy 10 mins every 2 weeks on weekend will work fine
[Sep 20, 2009 5:33:00 PM PDT] spokunfor cool….super screens on here….i’m dumping equityfeed tomorrow.
[Sep 20, 2009 5:33:06 PM PDT] Muddy the object is to find the HOT, “in play” stocks
[Sep 20, 2009 5:33:56 PM PDT] Laura The other scan we do on the weekend is the ones with above average day range, i.e. the dayrangers scan
[Sep 20, 2009 5:34:21 PM PDT] Laura The top two dayrangers this week are MDM and VRMLQ
[Sep 20, 2009 5:34:55 PM PDT] Laura Reason is, they had huge activity/range recently putting them in play as volatile stocks
[Sep 20, 2009 5:35:18 PM PDT] Laura These may be sleepers before this, but something changed, and now they are awake
[Sep 20, 2009 5:35:57 PM PDT] Laura One other thing on the 8% scan……….
[Sep 20, 2009 5:36:34 PM PDT] Laura It gets easier each day you do it. When you first start, the list is new. But after that, you take the same list……drop the losers, add new gainers.
[Sep 20, 2009 5:36:50 PM PDT] Laura This is 1. how you learn symbols, and 2. find UBB walkers
[Sep 20, 2009 5:37:01 PM PDT] Laura The UBB walkers float to the top of that list.
[Sep 20, 2009 5:38:16 PM PDT] Muddy yes,it’s all a gradual procees of your mind remembering these stocks…it while take a few weeks but i can gaurantee you’ll be amazed how many more symbols you will learn in just a month,ask Laura how many she has built up
[Sep 20, 2009 5:39:02 PM PDT] Muddy you see these hit that scrolling list every so often,you cant wait to pull the qbox up
[Sep 20, 2009 5:39:28 PM PDT] Laura I don’t know anywhere near as Muddy, but over 5 years trading with him, I know tons
[Sep 20, 2009 5:39:41 PM PDT] Muddy i might sit for 2 hours and see nothing special BUT THEN you see a chair jumper
[Sep 20, 2009 5:39:55 PM PDT] Laura Or I do 😀
[Sep 20, 2009 5:40:07 PM PDT] Muddy ha,yes good point
[Sep 20, 2009 5:40:38 PM PDT] Laura Okay, another way to find the UBB walkers is the former zero volume stocks
[Sep 20, 2009 5:41:09 PM PDT] Laura and by the way, UBB means upper bollinger band
[Sep 20, 2009 5:41:41 PM PDT] Muddy that is why on the 8%+ scan you use NO average volume
[Sep 20, 2009 5:43:00 PM PDT] Muddy ok,to find the breakouts for potential ubb walkers heres how and what to look for
[Sep 20, 2009 5:43:32 PM PDT] Muddy it goes back 7 years for me and it works great imo
[Sep 20, 2009 5:44:55 PM PDT] Muddy i termed it sq/vol/br for bb sqiueeze(tightness)/increase in vol by alot/price bearkout
[Sep 20, 2009 5:45:17 PM PDT] Laura here’s the daily chart set up we use at night. you can use a 3 month to 1 year daily candlestick chart. Set indicators as follows: bollinger bands(20,2), RSI(2), EMA(10), SMA(30), and volume.
[Sep 20, 2009 5:45:24 PM PDT] Muddy and for me i must use RSI2 with it
[Sep 20, 2009 5:46:54 PM PDT] Muddy RSI2 i’ve fouund is a sign of STENGHTat the ubb,not weakness ready for a drop…
[Sep 20, 2009 5:47:13 PM PDT] Muddy BUT,you need 2 things
[Sep 20, 2009 5:47:33 PM PDT] Muddy you need the candle PIERCED by the ubb
[Sep 20, 2009 5:48:11 PM PDT] Muddy and you need a big vol increase over the days
[Sep 20, 2009 5:48:40 PM PDT] Muddy the higher the better,at least RSI2 90
[Sep 20, 2009 5:48:51 PM PDT] Muddy the closer to 100 the better
[Sep 20, 2009 5:49:11 PM PDT] Muddy these can stay at RSI2 99 for days
[Sep 20, 2009 5:49:31 PM PDT] Muddy while going up 50%+ over that time
[Sep 20, 2009 5:50:10 PM PDT] Laura Okay, if you have your chart set up as I said, look at GVBP on 9/4
[Sep 20, 2009 5:50:48 PM PDT] Laura volume 4.3 mil over previous day’s 100k. white candle pierced by UBB and RSI2 99.97
[Sep 20, 2009 5:50:53 PM PDT] Laura Textbook
[Sep 20, 2009 5:51:31 PM PDT] Laura Held RSI2 over 90 til 9/15
[Sep 20, 2009 5:51:39 PM PDT] Muddy yes,wheter a pump or not it was a hold,cause the chart said yes
[Sep 20, 2009 5:51:53 PM PDT] Muddy not because what i thought
[Sep 20, 2009 5:51:58 PM PDT] Muddy what i saw
[Sep 20, 2009 5:52:58 PM PDT] Muddy this post shows how i played it for $19k
[Sep 20, 2009 5:53:03 PM PDT] Muddy http://darksidetrading.blogspot.com/2009/09/gvbp.html
[Sep 20, 2009 5:53:44 PM PDT] Laura not a pump, but look at BELM
[Sep 20, 2009 5:54:26 PM PDT] Laura started on 9/9 but pierced on 9/10 with a 99 RSI, on 4x vol day before
[Sep 20, 2009 5:54:43 PM PDT] Laura and keeps walking it up with RSI2 over 99
[Sep 20, 2009 5:55:01 PM PDT] Laura no sell signal yet after 6 days RSI2 over 99
[Sep 20, 2009 5:55:12 PM PDT] Laura not a screamer, but it is typical
[Sep 20, 2009 5:55:54 PM PDT] Laura LGDI, look at that one too
[Sep 20, 2009 5:56:23 PM PDT] Laura broke out on 9/15
[Sep 20, 2009 5:56:55 PM PDT] Laura resistance around .70 so if it broke that, good reason too to stay long
[Sep 20, 2009 5:57:47 PM PDT] Laura look at NCT now
[Sep 20, 2009 5:58:08 PM PDT] Laura broke on 9/16, look at vol increase from day before
[Sep 20, 2009 5:58:16 PM PDT] Laura RSI2 good
[Sep 20, 2009 5:58:36 PM PDT] Laura still a buy until it goes red
[Sep 20, 2009 5:59:08 PM PDT] Laura if you look, NCT did it in August, and if you go back longer, you can see more
[Sep 20, 2009 6:00:35 PM PDT] Laura SCSS another one walking the band
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:01 PM PDT] Muddy candle pierced,vol increase,rsi2 high over 90..thats the message
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:06 PM PDT] Laura now this is important too
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:28 PM PDT] Muddy it all starts with the simple run of the over 8% scan
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:35 PM PDT] Laura look at YRCW and GVBP walking then band…….when you see the big red candle above the band………watchout
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:40 PM PDT] Laura kiss of death usually
[Sep 20, 2009 6:01:54 PM PDT] Muddy and no easy way out,you have to eyeball the charts
[Sep 20, 2009 6:02:37 PM PDT] Laura right
[Sep 20, 2009 6:03:06 PM PDT] Laura like Muddy said, we are finding these walkers/breakouts from just a basic scan, the 8% up scan
[Sep 20, 2009 6:03:16 PM PDT] Laura but YOU HAVE to look at the charts at night
[Sep 20, 2009 6:03:48 PM PDT] Muddy and i run a clean chart..only bb’s and vol and RSI2
[Sep 20, 2009 6:04:25 PM PDT] moby2006 20BB on your chart Muddy?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:04:52 PM PDT] Laura I already gave set up above
[Sep 20, 2009 6:05:10 PM PDT] Laura (Sep 20-20:44) Laura: here’s the daily chart set up we use at night. you can use a 3 month to 1 year daily candlestick chart. Set indicators as follows: bollinger bands(20,2), RSI(2), EMA(10), SMA(30), and volume.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:06:05 PM PDT] moby2006 sorry, thanks
[Sep 20, 2009 6:06:09 PM PDT] Laura np
[Sep 20, 2009 6:07:57 PM PDT] Laura ok, now here is one other thing that is important when doing this scan. another pattern that is important. many of the zero, or close to zero volume stocks are in a tight BB squeeze.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:08:07 PM PDT] Laura bbstock, you here?? 🙂
[Sep 20, 2009 6:08:46 PM PDT] Laura now the example I have is not quite ready yet, but look at the chart anyway. (sorry, didn’t prepare for the charts on this one)
[Sep 20, 2009 6:08:50 PM PDT] Laura look at FTBK
[Sep 20, 2009 6:08:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive he’s idle on AIM, so doubt it L
[Sep 20, 2009 6:09:23 PM PDT] Laura if you’ll notice FTBK bollinger bands are very tight…..
[Sep 20, 2009 6:09:52 PM PDT] Laura this is one, that if you catch on the 8% up, volume up scan, it could be a very powerful move to the upside.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:10:57 PM PDT] Laura look at VG chart prior to 8/24, same pattern tight bands
[Sep 20, 2009 6:11:20 PM PDT] Laura 8/24, volume increase and pierced by band
[Sep 20, 2009 6:11:29 PM PDT] Laura huge breakout the next day
[Sep 20, 2009 6:12:00 PM PDT] Laura and then also of note……..red floater the next day. Usually time to get out on the red floater
[Sep 20, 2009 6:12:25 PM PDT] cwn6161 on these BB scans, do you look to get in right away, or still look for a pullback?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:12:30 PM PDT] pathan786 Q. Is there a scan to find stocks like FTBK (be4 the sq/vol/br)
[Sep 20, 2009 6:14:39 PM PDT] Laura pathan, no one can find them before
[Sep 20, 2009 6:14:47 PM PDT] Laura it is a futile chase
[Sep 20, 2009 6:15:07 PM PDT] Laura what about one in that squeeze for months or a year?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:16:14 PM PDT] Laura cwn, on the strong BB walkers, there is no pullback. when you get a big pullback may be a sign of major weakness
[Sep 20, 2009 6:16:25 PM PDT] Muddy cwn,i don’t swing but i look for green to enter a daytrade..but yes if you want to wait to enter,you use the pullback into the ema10/sma30
[Sep 20, 2009 6:16:38 PM PDT] 15minoffame Laura, sf has a bb squeeze filter…i just create a watch list then look for the breakout…i take them off after a month of so if it hasn’t done anything
[Sep 20, 2009 6:16:51 PM PDT] Muddy then you MUST wait for green confirm
[Sep 20, 2009 6:17:33 PM PDT] Muddy one thats hot now WAMUQ
[Sep 20, 2009 6:18:09 PM PDT] Laura ok, cool 15min
[Sep 20, 2009 6:18:14 PM PDT] Muddy see how the tail hit that zone 9/9
[Sep 20, 2009 6:18:16 PM PDT] Laura I just don’t want to watch them for a month
[Sep 20, 2009 6:18:31 PM PDT] Laura I can usually see on the hod list, or on the nightly charts
[Sep 20, 2009 6:20:14 PM PDT] Laura yes, WAMUQ good example of pullback and touch/enter the EMA10/SMA30 zone
[Sep 20, 2009 6:21:10 PM PDT] 15minoffame Muddy, do you use the 5 min chart, green confirm means 2nd green candle?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:23:01 PM PDT] Muddy me,i use just green few %…which is 2% up from yest close but sure you can use 2nd green cansdle
[Sep 20, 2009 6:23:36 PM PDT] Muddy why i don’t is cause i’m so bust trying to give alerts in chat but it works too
[Sep 20, 2009 6:23:45 PM PDT] Muddy look at VRMLQ
[Sep 20, 2009 6:24:09 PM PDT] Muddy sq/vol/break 8/7
[Sep 20, 2009 6:24:25 PM PDT] Muddy rsi2 98.90
[Sep 20, 2009 6:24:59 PM PDT] Muddy vol 2k to 800k
[Sep 20, 2009 6:25:30 PM PDT] Muddy WHITE candle perfect middle pierce
[Sep 20, 2009 6:25:40 PM PDT] Muddy so you miossed .its cool
[Sep 20, 2009 6:25:48 PM PDT] Muddy missed*
[Sep 20, 2009 6:26:16 PM PDT] Muddy see the touch in that zone?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:26:42 PM PDT] Laura beautiful example
[Sep 20, 2009 6:26:50 PM PDT] Muddy it bounced from 1.80 to 3.46 on green hit
[Sep 20, 2009 6:29:11 PM PDT] Laura any questions on the UBB walkers?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:29:58 PM PDT] Muddy or the scan?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:30:04 PM PDT] cwn6161 so the basic is: look for the uper peirce with high rsi at night, get in if green, and wait to red to get out
[Sep 20, 2009 6:30:20 PM PDT] Ironman are you watching these charts with this setup intraday?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:30:54 PM PDT] Muddy yes, cwn, and vol increase
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:12 PM PDT] Muddy that is why do not use avg vol in your scan
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:15 PM PDT] Laura no, only nightly scans with this for us.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:33 PM PDT] Muddy cause some huge runs come fro pumps
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:41 PM PDT] Muddy that had no vol before
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:42 PM PDT] Laura GS uses it intraday, he’s talked about the setup he uses here in chat afterhours a few times
[Sep 20, 2009 6:31:50 PM PDT] cwn6161 so a good practice would be to take the dayrangers and check them tonight for opportunities
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:08 PM PDT] Ironman ok. so use the ubb chart when reviewing nighly scanned ticker on the 8% up
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:09 PM PDT] Muddy Ironman,no rarely
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:15 PM PDT] Muddy its a momo thing
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:26 PM PDT] Muddy i dont have the time
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:36 PM PDT] Ironman and then watch for price action the next day
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:40 PM PDT] Laura yes cwn
[Sep 20, 2009 6:32:42 PM PDT] Muddy i jump in many right from the start
[Sep 20, 2009 6:33:05 PM PDT] Muddy plus we go back to knowing former runners
[Sep 20, 2009 6:33:31 PM PDT] Muddy plus HOT stocks cause we run the 8% scan daily
[Sep 20, 2009 6:33:48 PM PDT] Muddy it all comes down to the basic scans
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:04 PM PDT] spokunfor I just listen to Muddy in day chat ::smile
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:21 PM PDT] brenda4444 To find former zero volume stocks, you’re just eyeing the charts that come up on the 8% scan?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:21 PM PDT] Muddy it reverts back to the the means in so far as to what we watch
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:29 PM PDT] Ironman yes, I can see how knowing the former runners will help dramatically. definitely will learn those overtime
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:37 PM PDT] Laura spokunfor, you are cutting yourself short though if you don’t do the weekly and nightly scans
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:39 PM PDT] Muddy exactly! Brenda
[Sep 20, 2009 6:34:51 PM PDT] Laura Brenda has it, yes
[Sep 20, 2009 6:35:11 PM PDT] Muddy ironman,yes and really,no need to try and rush
[Sep 20, 2009 6:35:22 PM PDT] brenda4444 This stuff really does sink in after awhile 🙂
[Sep 20, 2009 6:35:23 PM PDT] Muddy it just comes to you
[Sep 20, 2009 6:35:32 PM PDT] Ironman listening in chat is good, but I want to learn how to be able to function and do all this on my own and feel confident of being able to do so
[Sep 20, 2009 6:35:41 PM PDT] Laura Exactly
[Sep 20, 2009 6:36:07 PM PDT] Laura Here’s why the scans are important………you know we watch hod list obviously 😀
[Sep 20, 2009 6:36:15 PM PDT] Ironman I maybe even want to spot them before you all…lol
[Sep 20, 2009 6:36:18 PM PDT] Muddy ironman,just picking up a few learned symbols a week is great
[Sep 20, 2009 6:36:49 PM PDT] Muddy do you know how many others don’t even try…you WILL get an edge
[Sep 20, 2009 6:36:50 PM PDT] Laura But we also have a list of 160 dayrangers, maybe 60 on the 8% up scan, and maybe another 40-80 on combo scan
[Sep 20, 2009 6:37:05 PM PDT] Laura When you flip thru those lists, you see stuff
[Sep 20, 2009 6:37:19 PM PDT] Muddy and the confidence that you will get knowing you have an edge on these folks
[Sep 20, 2009 6:37:21 PM PDT] cisco so here’s what to do?… run 8% scan everynight and look for high vol/peircing ubb/rsi? if all criterias match, look for taking entry?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:37:28 PM PDT] Laura 80* dayrangers, sorry
[Sep 20, 2009 6:37:29 PM PDT] Muddy its a great feeling
[Sep 20, 2009 6:38:10 PM PDT] Laura cisco sure, but it can be as simple as that the stock goes green again on the day
[Sep 20, 2009 6:38:36 PM PDT] Laura it may not even match those criteria, but those are some of the most powerful setups is all we are saying.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:39:43 PM PDT] Ironman also from what I understand from reading through your blog many of times Muddy, this may seem like a lot of tickers and scans but we will find that lots of the same tickers show up on the scans
[Sep 20, 2009 6:40:46 PM PDT] Laura yes, exactly
[Sep 20, 2009 6:41:02 PM PDT] Laura for example NCT may be on dayrangers, combo, 8% up etc
[Sep 20, 2009 6:41:15 PM PDT] Laura and the more you scan………the more you remember
[Sep 20, 2009 6:41:47 PM PDT] Laura ok, now a lot want to know our setup, Mudd will explain pre-market edges in a minute
[Sep 20, 2009 6:42:06 PM PDT] Laura we use Scott basic for the high of day list, and quote boxes
[Sep 20, 2009 6:42:23 PM PDT] Laura you can open 5 quote boxes, and 5 charts with them
[Sep 20, 2009 6:42:57 PM PDT] Laura Scott is pretty bad for trading as you can’t trade a lot of OTCBBs with them
[Sep 20, 2009 6:43:11 PM PDT] Ironman yes I am leaving them this week
[Sep 20, 2009 6:43:18 PM PDT] Ironman for speedtrader
[Sep 20, 2009 6:43:30 PM PDT] Laura And we use IB for trading, and love their Market Scanners
[Sep 20, 2009 6:43:49 PM PDT] Laura you can scan for % ups, % downs, and a lot of other things
[Sep 20, 2009 6:44:05 PM PDT] Laura So this is the edge we use in Premarket to get the pre list
[Sep 20, 2009 6:44:45 PM PDT] cisco IB?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:44:54 PM PDT] Laura Interactive Brokers
[Sep 20, 2009 6:45:00 PM PDT] cisco thanks
[Sep 20, 2009 6:45:09 PM PDT] Laura https://www.interactivebrokers.com/
[Sep 20, 2009 6:45:31 PM PDT] Laura Plus IB has a great inventory for shorting stocks
[Sep 20, 2009 6:45:39 PM PDT] Muddy ok.first before i go into the Pre stuff,you gotta know how i can spot b/o’s on the scott qbox
[Sep 20, 2009 6:45:53 PM PDT] sabir8 WOuld that be ok if I share a scan based on what I understand from the chat
[Sep 20, 2009 6:46:05 PM PDT] 15minoffame I can’t get IB at work due to firewall issues… ::sad
[Sep 20, 2009 6:46:23 PM PDT] Laura two ways to do IB
[Sep 20, 2009 6:46:30 PM PDT] Laura download or web based
[Sep 20, 2009 6:46:42 PM PDT] deva11 b/o’s?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:46:48 PM PDT] Laura you better get to know the IT guy, lol
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:11 PM PDT] Laura breakout deva
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:26 PM PDT] peter sorry for late to the party, but on the BB, RS2(2) EMA SMA setup what is the timeframe, 5min chart, 1 month chart?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:35 PM PDT] Laura peter, IM me
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:40 PM PDT] peter ok
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:43 PM PDT] Laura you are late 🙂
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ill post the chat logs so far for the late comers
[Sep 20, 2009 6:47:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then update it later or tomorrow AM
[Sep 20, 2009 6:48:38 PM PDT] Muddy if you’ve heard the term “jiigy”,that is used,i SEE that in the quote box,i can tell uncanny what has a great chance of a run right off that simple qbox
[Sep 20, 2009 6:48:46 PM PDT] peter cool IL! At least I can get the how to use the pre mkt strategy 😉
[Sep 20, 2009 6:49:16 PM PDT] Muddy you see a stock that the priced “popped”
[Sep 20, 2009 6:49:44 PM PDT] Muddy then you see it sit,or as IL always says,is consoldating
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:01 PM PDT] Muddy then you see the wild bid/ask flip
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2009/09/12/seminars-prepared-us-for-this-move-tri-valley-corp-tiv/
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive perfect example of Muddy in action
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive TIV
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on what hes talking about
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Sep 11, 2009 9:17:16 AM PDT] Muddy TIV upping back
[Sep 20, 2009 6:50:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Sep 11, 2009 10:37:09 AM PDT] Muddy TIV jumpy again [Sep 11, 2009 10:37:22 AM PDT] Muddy TIV near hods
[Sep 20, 2009 6:51:24 PM PDT] Muddy the odds of a b/o imo at least 75% and a good one too
[Sep 20, 2009 6:51:50 PM PDT] Muddy i can just see it coming and you can too but…
[Sep 20, 2009 6:52:14 PM PDT] Muddy you need at least 5 qboxs up too follow the ones in play
[Sep 20, 2009 6:52:32 PM PDT] Muddy i use 20 at a time
[Sep 20, 2009 6:52:36 PM PDT] Muddy and stalk
[Sep 20, 2009 6:53:16 PM PDT] Muddy again the main ones are the FORMER runners
[Sep 20, 2009 6:53:36 PM PDT] 15minoffame so Muddy, when you say jiggy with it, what is normally the next cue from you to push all the women & childen aside and jump in…
[Sep 20, 2009 6:54:20 PM PDT] Muddy if i see say someone alert MDLK pop
[Sep 20, 2009 6:54:38 PM PDT] Muddy you bet i pull up the qbox on it
[Sep 20, 2009 6:54:58 PM PDT] Muddy i want to see the b/a flip if
[Sep 20, 2009 6:55:30 PM PDT] peter What u guys think of using some code for former runners? Most new comers don’t know what are the formers runner unless you in chat for couple months or year.. say SPDE* = * former runnner.
[Sep 20, 2009 6:55:46 PM PDT] Muddy i use Ched alerts alot:)
[Sep 20, 2009 6:55:47 PM PDT] moby2006 do you use IB scanner during the day or only at pre?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:56:18 PM PDT] Ironman does IB have a hod/lod scanner?
[Sep 20, 2009 6:56:26 PM PDT] Muddy any i see i pull up the qbox to stalk
[Sep 20, 2009 6:56:36 PM PDT] Muddy yes,ironman
[Sep 20, 2009 6:56:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll get the hang of it by being in here for months peter.. doesn’t click in a day.. you also learn it by doing scans on your own.. many folks in here know former runners that have been here even for 3 months.. and calling plays out left and right
[Sep 20, 2009 6:56:46 PM PDT] Laura Peter, you learn former runners from running scans for a few years
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:04 PM PDT] Muddy it doesnt scroll but its great for the subs and under 1’s
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yup L, just gotta put in the hrs
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:15 PM PDT] Ironman cant buy experience..lol
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:18 PM PDT] Laura I don’t see a point to calling a former runner that ran 2 months ago
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:29 PM PDT] Laura That’s not what we mean by it
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:45 PM PDT] Muddy Ironman…with the subs if you play them…heres a tip…
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:46 PM PDT] 15minoffame Muddy, is a b/a flip meaning the bids are more than the ask
[Sep 20, 2009 6:57:58 PM PDT] Laura no 15
[Sep 20, 2009 6:58:12 PM PDT] Muddy the ones at an unusaul % up are the ones to watch
[Sep 20, 2009 6:58:26 PM PDT] Muddy not the 50 100 200% up ones
[Sep 20, 2009 6:59:03 PM PDT] Muddy they are even numbers and almost are trading bak/forth on the bid/ask
[Sep 20, 2009 6:59:31 PM PDT] Muddy the ones like 43% 123% etc are3 the real traders
[Sep 20, 2009 6:59:39 PM PDT] Muddy uneven %’s
[Sep 20, 2009 6:59:46 PM PDT] Muddy like SNDY fri
[Sep 20, 2009 6:59:57 PM PDT] Ironman makes sense
[Sep 20, 2009 7:00:17 PM PDT] Laura very true
[Sep 20, 2009 7:00:29 PM PDT] Muddy it is imo..those are the ones
[Sep 20, 2009 7:01:28 PM PDT] Muddy the spread on those even % ones is usally crap and fake
[Sep 20, 2009 7:01:32 PM PDT] Ironman well from the gains you made on a few i know of, your opinion is appreciated
[Sep 20, 2009 7:02:09 PM PDT] Muddy thanks ,just concentrate on those uneven % ups
[Sep 20, 2009 7:02:13 PM PDT] Muddy you’ll see
[Sep 20, 2009 7:02:39 PM PDT] Ironman so when scanning then you are just using the scrolling scanner on scottrade fro anything above $1
[Sep 20, 2009 7:03:56 PM PDT] Ironman I used the high/low on elite but I believe you mentioned earlier taht you use the one off the leftside on the regular home page?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:04:11 PM PDT] Laura yes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:04:36 PM PDT] Laura Ironman, I’ve heard the scott elite is better cuz you can customize price etc
[Sep 20, 2009 7:04:46 PM PDT] Laura but we just use basic
[Sep 20, 2009 7:05:21 PM PDT] Ironman yes but I am leaving them for a better broker so I wont have the required funds ti use it
[Sep 20, 2009 7:05:51 PM PDT] che does anyone know if elite has something similar to qbox
[Sep 20, 2009 7:06:14 PM PDT] Ironman quotes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:06:59 PM PDT] Laura Ironman, you going to Speedtrader?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:07:07 PM PDT] Laura they have hod list
[Sep 20, 2009 7:07:11 PM PDT] Laura IL said
[Sep 20, 2009 7:07:34 PM PDT] Laura but for quotes, leave a few hundred in Scottrade so you can use basic
[Sep 20, 2009 7:07:47 PM PDT] Ironman basic is the scottrader?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:07:53 PM PDT] Laura yes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:14 PM PDT] Ironman well the good nes is my dad has an elite account so I guess i am lucky and can use his scanner
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:16 PM PDT] Muddy here’s another thing….on the low pennies
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:24 PM PDT] deva11 why is qbox superior, can’t u get the same info on IB ?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:24 PM PDT] Seq scoyy eleete is awesome i dont have it tho
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:26 PM PDT] Ironman *news
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:28 PM PDT] Seq scvott
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:34 PM PDT] Muddy Scott tips it’s hand
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:39 PM PDT] Laura All that don’t have Scottrader, only $500 to open an account, and worth the tools
[Sep 20, 2009 7:08:57 PM PDT] Laura no Deva, not the same at all
[Sep 20, 2009 7:09:43 PM PDT] Muddy you see a few plus me saying stock ABC showed brief .20 ask then pulls off,when the stock is holding say .12
[Sep 20, 2009 7:10:09 PM PDT] Muddy this is gold,imo
[Sep 20, 2009 7:10:21 PM PDT] Laura and no, can’t see that on IB
[Sep 20, 2009 7:10:37 PM PDT] Muddy alot of time in 20/30 mins it does hit .20 bid
[Sep 20, 2009 7:10:55 PM PDT] Muddy thats almost cheating
[Sep 20, 2009 7:12:47 PM PDT] Muddy ask Fugu or Domino or Ched,they see it on Scott
[Sep 20, 2009 7:13:18 PM PDT] Fortunate Son This is for longs…..Is there a similar edge looking at the qbox for shorts?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:14:56 PM PDT] cisco Now that you all explained entry very wel, How about ideal exit point? sometimes, stock goes up very quickly and drops immediately after that giving no time to exit.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:15:21 PM PDT] gary is the qbox = quote box
[Sep 20, 2009 7:15:44 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks ok guys I looked at the watch list 30 stocks or so for tommorow.. anything particular a big move up I should look at… Muddy, Laura, Investorlive??
[Sep 20, 2009 7:16:26 PM PDT] Craig Do you have a signup for the tweets for the subs? I do like to play some subs, so alerts would be great.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:17:05 PM PDT] Muddy Fortunate,not that i’ve seen
[Sep 20, 2009 7:17:24 PM PDT] Muddy gary..yes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:18:28 PM PDT] Muddy cisco..i use a tight stop right away….it’s really hard to say for each acct is different but..
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:00 PM PDT] Muddy i let winners ride and will use a breakeven stop many times…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:18 PM PDT] Laura which watchlist LivePennyStocks?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:30 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks the monday Muddy watch list
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:31 PM PDT] Muddy because i trade 1/30th of acct in 1
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:47 PM PDT] Muddy so i often go for the homerun
[Sep 20, 2009 7:19:48 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks and also dayrangers lol
[Sep 20, 2009 7:20:12 PM PDT] Laura LPS, you gotta watch what happens tomorrow
[Sep 20, 2009 7:20:12 PM PDT] Muddy homerun or b/e
[Sep 20, 2009 7:20:19 PM PDT] Laura We don’t know which ones will run
[Sep 20, 2009 7:20:29 PM PDT] Laura Good lord, wish I had a crystal ball
[Sep 20, 2009 7:20:32 PM PDT] Muddy but i get a few 200%+ every few days
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:03 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks true… just 50 stocks is like so much work, and i have spam stocks in my email lke 20 then i have like 4 other sites.. so im up to my nose over 100 stocks to see tommorow lol
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:08 PM PDT] Laura If we knew that, we’d put up watchlist of 5 stocks
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:21 PM PDT] 15minoffame which 5 Laura
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive …
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive she doesn’t have a crystal ball 15min…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:21:58 PM PDT] Muddy but like we said before…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:08 PM PDT] Muddy its 50 now…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:22 PM PDT] Laura LPS, 50 stocks not that much work if you’d started Friday night and did a few charts thru the weekend
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:24 PM PDT] Ironman how much those crystal balls cost?…lol
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:29 PM PDT] Muddy then tues you just bump the reds
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:31 PM PDT] 15minoffame IL, dang, dang…your home page said join, we have a crystal ball!
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive lets stay on topic plz
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:36 PM PDT] Muddy and keep the fails
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:48 PM PDT] Muddy that stayed green
[Sep 20, 2009 7:22:59 PM PDT] Muddy you have to start somewhere
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:08 PM PDT] Laura yes, we said this 2 hours ago……..build your first list of 8%…….then it gets easier each day
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:18 PM PDT] Muddy right
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:18 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks YA
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:32 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks i try
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:47 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks i used the etrade marketwatcher… and put 40 stocks but i notice it hickups sometimes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:52 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks where do u all add em…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:23:54 PM PDT] Laura you drop the fails, and add a few new each day
[Sep 20, 2009 7:24:07 PM PDT] Laura building the list gets easier each day guys
[Sep 20, 2009 7:24:15 PM PDT] Ironman do you have two lists for 8%? one for up 8% and one for down 8% or just one 8% list
[Sep 20, 2009 7:24:24 PM PDT] jrbikes When you look at the UBB, do you use any type of resistance watch ?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:24:37 PM PDT] Muddy no
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:05 PM PDT] Muddy RSI2 you want to track though
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:11 PM PDT] Laura Ironman, here’s what we have for this week:
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:30 PM PDT] Muddy jr,the best ones are the new 52 week highs
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:37 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks R S I 2 ?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:40 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks is that a ticker?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:46 PM PDT] Muddy but see this is momo
[Sep 20, 2009 7:25:58 PM PDT] Laura 40 dayrangers $1-10, 40 dayrangers under $1, 60 or so 8% ups
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:10 PM PDT] Laura don’t think we ran the combo scan this weekend
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:16 PM PDT] Laura we don’t sometimes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:16 PM PDT] Muddy and they don’t follow the R most times
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:17 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks Muddy.. u talking about RSI?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:34 PM PDT] Muddy yes RSI2
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:47 PM PDT] Muddy not default 14
[Sep 20, 2009 7:26:49 PM PDT] jrbikes So when you look at RSI2, in the higher range, with this it is actually a sign of strength, not weakness as in being overbought?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:27:01 PM PDT] Muddy RSI2 is what we use
[Sep 20, 2009 7:27:12 PM PDT] Muddy at ubb over 90
[Sep 20, 2009 7:27:20 PM PDT] jrbikes got it
[Sep 20, 2009 7:27:27 PM PDT] Muddy 99 they can keep on walking
[Sep 20, 2009 7:27:46 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks u mean RSI 20?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:28:11 PM PDT] Laura LPS, you been here for whole seminar??
[Sep 20, 2009 7:28:15 PM PDT] Muddy jr,you can see on a few the R but its the real slow ones usually
[Sep 20, 2009 7:28:17 PM PDT] Laura NO, RSI 2
[Sep 20, 2009 7:28:52 PM PDT] jrbikes so as in walking, its like they are creeping up
[Sep 20, 2009 7:29:08 PM PDT] Muddy yes ,BELM type
[Sep 20, 2009 7:29:33 PM PDT] Laura jr, later go back and read whole seminar when you get a chance.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:29:37 PM PDT] Laura it’s all covered.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:29:38 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks RSI(2) 1 day ago was below 30 for the last 3 days and RSI(2) crossed above 30
[Sep 20, 2009 7:29:43 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks is this what u talking about Muddy
[Sep 20, 2009 7:30:01 PM PDT] jrbikes o.k.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:30:10 PM PDT] JCastellon LPS please read the seminar from the start, its covered
[Sep 20, 2009 7:30:12 PM PDT] Laura jr, we gave some chart examples of the UBB walkers in it
[Sep 20, 2009 7:30:56 PM PDT] Laura LPS, we are talking about RSI2 over 90 on UBB walkers, read seminar notes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:31:14 PM PDT] Muddy no,i don’t use RSI2 like that
[Sep 20, 2009 7:31:24 PM PDT] Muddy 90% of folks do
[Sep 20, 2009 7:31:42 PM PDT] Muddy 90% don’t make too much money
[Sep 20, 2009 7:31:52 PM PDT] cisco I liked UBB walker explaination. Very wel done in simple terms.
[Sep 20, 2009 7:31:59 PM PDT] Muddy if you saw the start of this
[Sep 20, 2009 7:32:11 PM PDT] Muddy i said it may not be for some
[Sep 20, 2009 7:32:38 PM PDT] Muddy but i know i have a big edge over 90% of folks that trade
[Sep 20, 2009 7:33:47 PM PDT] peter if a stock ins on the 52s high it has greater chances to keep running?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:33:47 PM PDT] Laura okay, any questions on this, otherwise we’ll move on to pre market
[Sep 20, 2009 7:33:52 PM PDT] Laura yes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:35:37 PM PDT] Muddy ok,one other thing before we go on …..and ask if you have questions from above but….
[Sep 20, 2009 7:36:10 PM PDT] Muddy the big dayrangers… a few like GETA might get smoked
[Sep 20, 2009 7:36:28 PM PDT] Muddy you look for at least 20% down
[Sep 20, 2009 7:36:41 PM PDT] Muddy then you watch for a base
[Sep 20, 2009 7:36:57 PM PDT] Muddy if its down that big…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:37:22 PM PDT] Muddy and has like 16% adr like GETA
[Sep 20, 2009 7:37:24 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks Muddy u use RSI 2 in trading… u use any stochastic , momentum or mac d and if u do what are the settings?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:37:53 PM PDT] Muddy you have a great risk/reward imo if you get anywhere near that base
[Sep 20, 2009 7:38:33 PM PDT] Muddy i keep it clean LPS
[Sep 20, 2009 7:38:51 PM PDT] Muddy see GETA range fri?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:38:58 PM PDT] Muddy it baseed
[Sep 20, 2009 7:39:14 PM PDT] Muddy based*
[Sep 20, 2009 7:39:16 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks lookin at chart GETA
[Sep 20, 2009 7:39:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if Muddy uses more stuff he will tell you…..
[Sep 20, 2009 7:39:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive he’s telling you what he uses
[Sep 20, 2009 7:39:29 PM PDT] Muddy so imo .70 was entry
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:02 PM PDT] Muddy and it went to .94
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:25 PM PDT] Muddy so just use the EVEN .90 as exit
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:32 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks aaaaa
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:33 PM PDT] jrbikes you use 5 min chart or 1 min chart for entries and exits
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:38 PM PDT] Muddy not huge but decent 20%
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:43 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks very nice
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:44 PM PDT] Muddy that is why…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Sep 20, 2009 5:45:17 PM PDT] Laura here’s the daily chart set up we use at night. you can use a 3 month to 1 year daily candlestick chart. Set indicators as follows: bollinger bands(20,2), RSI(2), EMA(10), SMA(30), and volume. [Sep 20, 2009 5:45:24 PM PDT] Muddy and for me i must use RSI2 with it
[Sep 20, 2009 7:40:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive is what they use LPS, like L said earlier
[Sep 20, 2009 7:41:13 PM PDT] Muddy i run the high dayrangers scan every weekend
[Sep 20, 2009 7:41:25 PM PDT] Muddy 10-15 mins a week
[Sep 20, 2009 7:42:02 PM PDT] Muddy so many ways and thing is..you can find your comfort zone
[Sep 20, 2009 7:42:35 PM PDT] Muddy because i’ve trade so long i can see maybe alot more more than you but
[Sep 20, 2009 7:42:50 PM PDT] Muddy you do not need all i see
[Sep 20, 2009 7:42:54 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks is it true that u have more than 4 screens?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:43:01 PM PDT] Muddy 5
[Sep 20, 2009 7:43:10 PM PDT] LivePennyStocks nice
[Sep 20, 2009 7:43:34 PM PDT] Laura I use 2 screens
[Sep 20, 2009 7:43:48 PM PDT] Laura more screens doesn’t make you a better trader
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:05 PM PDT] kbrackelman Wish some would read the previous chat above or get here on time!
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:08 PM PDT] Laura Muddy traded on one screen for years
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:21 PM PDT] Laura Good point kb
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:25 PM PDT] moby2006 Laura you use the day d=ranger and the combo? and that’s it?
[Sep 20, 2009 7:44:52 PM PDT] Muddy plus the 8%+
[Sep 20, 2009 7:45:22 PM PDT] Muddy but great news is for those time crunched
[Sep 20, 2009 7:45:52 PM PDT] Muddy only once a week or even twice a month
[Sep 20, 2009 7:46:08 PM PDT] Muddy they don’t change much
[Sep 20, 2009 7:46:41 PM PDT] Muddy i do every weelend cause i’m anal and want to see to alert in chat
[Sep 20, 2009 7:47:01 PM PDT] Muddy but really you only need minimul time
[Sep 20, 2009 7:49:19 PM PDT] Muddy but the 8%+ i must do everynight cause i don’t want to miss the new b/o’s but like i said,i’m kinda a perfectionist and don’t like to miss anything..but to trade for a living off this stuff,you don’t have to be as whack as me..i just love it
[Sep 20, 2009 7:50:33 PM PDT] Seq Muddy some of the picks in the room have been really good recently
[Sep 20, 2009 7:50:39 PM PDT] Seq love this chat
[Sep 20, 2009 7:51:16 PM PDT] Seq youve outdone yourself
[Sep 20, 2009 7:51:22 PM PDT] domino I’ll 2nd that seq
[Sep 20, 2009 7:51:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ::beer
[Sep 20, 2009 7:51:56 PM PDT] Laura Seq and domino ::lips
[Sep 20, 2009 7:52:04 PM PDT] domino the dedication here on Sunday evenings to help is unreal
[Sep 20, 2009 7:52:12 PM PDT] Laura and you know I hate the creepy lips!
[Sep 20, 2009 7:52:49 PM PDT] Muddy like i said,,this is only my edge stuff…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:06 PM PDT] domino I just quit 2 sites , My husband started reading this & didn’t understand but sd wow, w/ football pon
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:08 PM PDT] Muddy maybe its not your style
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:14 PM PDT] domino on*
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:27 PM PDT] Muddy and that’s ok’
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:41 PM PDT] Muddy everyone is different
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’ve done other styles…
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive fast fast
[Sep 20, 2009 7:53:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive scalp like mad
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and this realy slows u down
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:08 PM PDT] Muddy but imo,i think i have a huge edge over most
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and % wins much more in ur favor
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:19 PM PDT] Muddy and it hasn’t failed me
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and uses 1/10th capital
[Sep 20, 2009 7:54:34 PM PDT] Muddy its a different approach
[Sep 20, 2009 7:59:26 PM PDT] Muddy which if no other questions from above(and we can do another seminar next week cause this one brought up alot of new stuff to many that you may have to digest) brings up premarkret and why i i get in that zone the 45 mins before open
[Sep 20, 2009 8:00:20 PM PDT] cwn6161 really appreciate the patience you guys have here, thanks a ton
[Sep 20, 2009 8:00:54 PM PDT] che Muddy are u waiting for questions
[Sep 20, 2009 8:00:55 PM PDT] Laura cwn, you are very welcome
[Sep 20, 2009 8:01:17 PM PDT] Muddy if you can read the pre and the swings and vol and late hits(pumps for sure there) you have another huge edge
[Sep 20, 2009 8:01:28 PM PDT] Laura I hope all you new guys hang around for a few weeks, cuz there is so much to learn and that we can share
[Sep 20, 2009 8:01:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive indeed
[Sep 20, 2009 8:02:31 PM PDT] Muddy you don’t NEED it but…IB has the “time in scan”
[Sep 20, 2009 8:02:41 PM PDT] Seq this is the best room ever you guys will be very happy stick around
[Sep 20, 2009 8:02:58 PM PDT] cisco Thanks Laura. I think, you guys are doing a great job of bring us upto the speed. Thanks Muddy/IL
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:09 PM PDT] Muddy if you have $10k to open IB,its a gold mine that time in scan imo
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive If you don’t get it in the first 2-4 weeks feel free to ask as many questions along the way but once you see the tickers the second time around, and you’re ready to react b/c you remember it from the first week you were in the room..
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll understand the power of former runners
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and how much quicker it makes u
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:37 PM PDT] Muddy right IL
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and that’s whe it really clicks for others
[Sep 20, 2009 8:03:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and the room takes on a whole new meaning
[Sep 20, 2009 8:04:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but scan scan scan
[Sep 20, 2009 8:04:03 PM PDT] gary Thank you for all the information..appreciate your time and efforts to enlighten us. Look forward to the next seminar.
[Sep 20, 2009 8:04:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just 10-20 min a night even
[Sep 20, 2009 8:04:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll be surprised how many tickers you’ll know in no time
[Sep 20, 2009 8:04:20 PM PDT] che can someone with a minute please PM me, i have some questions about prophet charts
[Sep 20, 2009 8:06:22 PM PDT] brenda4444 Muddy what is “time in scan”?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:07:06 PM PDT] Muddy Brenda,it shows the late hits
[Sep 20, 2009 8:07:37 PM PDT] Muddy those are the onesb with late news usaully
[Sep 20, 2009 8:07:59 PM PDT] Muddy and nothing bad about you west coast guys…
[Sep 20, 2009 8:08:11 PM PDT] Muddy but they wake uo late
[Sep 20, 2009 8:08:35 PM PDT] Muddy then pile on while its running up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:08:48 PM PDT] Muddy you see the advantage?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:09:12 PM PDT] Muddy i’m in on open
[Sep 20, 2009 8:09:28 PM PDT] Muddy many on FORMER runners,again
[Sep 20, 2009 8:09:39 PM PDT] Muddy then they buy
[Sep 20, 2009 8:10:08 PM PDT] brenda4444 I see – thx!
[Sep 20, 2009 8:10:30 PM PDT] Muddy really,those late hits can run
[Sep 20, 2009 8:10:59 PM PDT] Muddy cause many don’t see until 20 50 100% up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:11:33 PM PDT] Muddy the other thing with the pre’s
[Sep 20, 2009 8:12:00 PM PDT] Muddy some may be 100% in pre from the start
[Sep 20, 2009 8:12:18 PM PDT] Muddy then say they open at 30% up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:12:23 PM PDT] Muddy oh baby
[Sep 20, 2009 8:12:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if anyone uses prophet charts could you PM che to help out setting up a few parameters
[Sep 20, 2009 8:12:50 PM PDT] Muddy many will later in day hit that 100%
[Sep 20, 2009 8:13:11 PM PDT] Muddy you have a 70% range ther
[Sep 20, 2009 8:13:32 PM PDT] Muddy and you scan quick for news
[Sep 20, 2009 8:13:47 PM PDT] Muddy or crap pr
[Sep 20, 2009 8:14:09 PM PDT] Muddy either way you have a big window there
[Sep 20, 2009 8:14:33 PM PDT] Muddy i bet monday there will be one
[Sep 20, 2009 8:14:41 PM PDT] Muddy up say 100%
[Sep 20, 2009 8:14:58 PM PDT] Muddy open only 50% or so
[Sep 20, 2009 8:15:12 PM PDT] Muddy you look for a base
[Sep 20, 2009 8:15:29 PM PDT] Muddy or IL says,consolidaing,ha
[Sep 20, 2009 8:15:33 PM PDT] nghtrvn Are you using 100% as example b/c earlier you said to stay away from even #’s
[Sep 20, 2009 8:15:46 PM PDT] Muddy watch it run right back up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:16:14 PM PDT] Muddy we have seen a few go 200%+ off this angle
[Sep 20, 2009 8:16:31 PM PDT] peter yea I noticed this, sometimes I see a high print in pre, alone sitting there why? then open lower, and most of the time it will ride up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:16:59 PM PDT] Muddy nghtrvn.no i didn’t mean that way
[Sep 20, 2009 8:17:38 PM PDT] Muddy i was talking about the subs there
[Sep 20, 2009 8:17:46 PM PDT] nghtrvn oh ok thanks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:18:06 PM PDT] Muddy say its up 60%
[Sep 20, 2009 8:18:20 PM PDT] Muddy then a dip open 30%
[Sep 20, 2009 8:18:48 PM PDT] Muddy it will many times hit that 60% and way more
[Sep 20, 2009 8:18:58 PM PDT] Muddy IL will tell you
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:05 PM PDT] Muddy he’s seen it too
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yup
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I love those ones late in the day too
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz they chill sideways from like
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:22 PM PDT] Muddy yup
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 12pm-1:30pm
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then u see some vol surge
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and start to perk up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:34 PM PDT] Muddy chill out they do
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and they are right in range… like 2.70-2.80… with 1 hr to go
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:48 PM PDT] Muddy how many times we say
[Sep 20, 2009 8:19:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive last hour they rippppppp thru $3
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:00 PM PDT] Muddy test hod from pre at 1 pm
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:06 PM PDT] Muddy yup
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but like I linked earlier
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive picture perfect was TIV
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2009/09/12/seminars-prepared-us-for-this-move-tri-valley-corp-tiv/
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:35 PM PDT] Muddy and many are dayrangers that were FORMER runners
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive take a look at the image
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this one
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:47 PM PDT] Muddy thats the great thing
[Sep 20, 2009 8:20:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://i30.tinypic.com/1fztpg.png
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:06 PM PDT] Muddy nobody can take that knowledge away from you
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive zactly
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive another good one even tho it was a sub penny was MOBI
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://i32.tinypic.com/mmr0aa.png
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but that same stuff is what we’re talking about
[Sep 20, 2009 8:21:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive apply it to any price level
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and best thing is u remember it… u know if it starts perking u want in
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sometimes u miss but
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive bam Muddy sees it
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or I see it, L ched.. etc
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:34 PM PDT] Muddy that 95% know ICE APPL RIMM etcf
[Sep 20, 2009 8:22:43 PM PDT] Muddy who cares
[Sep 20, 2009 8:23:09 PM PDT] Muddy we know the big potential runs intraday
[Sep 20, 2009 8:23:26 PM PDT] Muddy thats where you build an acct fast
[Sep 20, 2009 8:23:50 PM PDT] nghtrvn so try to get in when starts to perk off the dips
[Sep 20, 2009 8:24:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yea off the sideways consolidation
[Sep 20, 2009 8:24:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u see vol and starting to perk up..
[Sep 20, 2009 8:24:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if u wrong… big deal u sell if it breaks consolidation support
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u lose .10 cents
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s why I like it
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if ur right… ba BINGGGGGGGGG
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:25 PM PDT] jrbikes Do you often hold overnight, a lot of gappers lately
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive x 10 what u woulda lost if wrong
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive OTCBB and Pinks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:25:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:01 PM PDT] jrbikes Is IB good for OTCBB and Pinks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive eh, ok I’ve heard.. not for good direct routes
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SpeedTrader #1 for OTCBB/Pinks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive IB #1 for shorts
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:37 PM PDT] jrbikes what do you prefer?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:38 PM PDT] Muddy oh yeah IB
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:44 PM PDT] pathan786 Q related to second leg runners in the afternoon, do you keep all early high% runners somewhere seperate to refer to them in the afternoon? Or – anything hitting HODs after say 2Pm is a candidate ?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:27:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SpeedTrader is by far best b/c you hav access to over 10-15 market makers
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on the OTCBB/Pinks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I can direct route
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive whomever is on offer
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and cut in front of IB orders, Etrade etc
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz direct access
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive = edgeeeee
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:30 PM PDT] Muddy pathan,i use all pre in a watch list
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:39 PM PDT] nghtrvn thanks for the great seminar… awesome as always ::happy
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:50 PM PDT] Muddy and flip the screens
[Sep 20, 2009 8:28:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same Muddy
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive flip thru what I’ve looked at earlier
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I keep 6 charts up watching what I’m in
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive scroll on the other 2
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:17 PM PDT] Muddy why maybe overkill but use 5 monitors
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive of potentials setting up
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:48 PM PDT] pathan786 I meant early morning high % runners (for a potential second run in the afternoon).
[Sep 20, 2009 8:29:50 PM PDT] pathan786 not pre’s
[Sep 20, 2009 8:30:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yea just scroll
[Sep 20, 2009 8:30:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive keep ’em close
[Sep 20, 2009 8:31:24 PM PDT] Muddy because i can’t watch all..i use the high dayrangers,pathan,for those
[Sep 20, 2009 8:31:55 PM PDT] pathan786 My bad, i think my question isn’t clear.
[Sep 20, 2009 8:32:05 PM PDT] Muddy but my main ones are ,pre and darkside watches on those
[Sep 20, 2009 8:32:10 PM PDT] pathan786 I am specifically referring to stuff that ran 20 – 30 + % in the morning.
[Sep 20, 2009 8:32:21 PM PDT] pathan786 One might have played the first innings or may be not
[Sep 20, 2009 8:32:44 PM PDT] pathan786 but often these ones fade off/consolidate after first hour or so and perk up later in the day.
[Sep 20, 2009 8:33:06 PM PDT] pathan786 how to keep track of such ones. (ones that already had first run in the day and might run again later in the day)
[Sep 20, 2009 8:34:15 PM PDT] Muddy pathan,i’ll atch those if i see them but interested in pre’s ,darkside watches mainly
[Sep 20, 2009 8:34:48 PM PDT] Muddy cause there’s always tomorrow on both of those
[Sep 20, 2009 8:35:13 PM PDT] Muddy if that works for you then great
[Sep 20, 2009 8:35:45 PM PDT] Muddy the main thing is,watch the qbox imo if you do that
[Sep 20, 2009 8:35:59 PM PDT] Muddy scott tips its hand
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:09 PM PDT] Muddy don’t know why
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:15 PM PDT] Muddy but it works
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive pathan for me.. I have 5 charts on right and 2 in front of me – on the 2 in front of me I scroll thru stuff thru the day with the up/down arrows to see if anything is starting to gain
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s how it rack
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive track
[Sep 20, 2009 8:36:37 PM PDT] Muddy you can see the jig whenh its ready
[Sep 20, 2009 8:37:36 PM PDT] pathan786 got it.. so basically sort of manual.
[Sep 20, 2009 8:37:48 PM PDT] Muddy yes
[Sep 20, 2009 8:39:18 PM PDT] jrbikes was watching one the other day and the Quote box started going nuts and the trades were firing off at a insane pace
[Sep 20, 2009 8:39:37 PM PDT] Muddy yup
[Sep 20, 2009 8:40:42 PM PDT] Muddy you can see a horizonal line going right through the stock symbol,its bizzare
[Sep 20, 2009 8:41:10 PM PDT] Muddy Scott is like saying,BUY IT,ha
[Sep 20, 2009 8:42:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive alright guys – heading to bed
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:06 PM PDT] Laura it does too, when it flips that fast, activity that quick
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Mud please go to bed
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I want a pre list
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive in the AM
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive lol
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:14 PM PDT] Laura doubt it IL
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:18 PM PDT] Laura lol
[Sep 20, 2009 8:43:55 PM PDT] Muddy no,we got another hour IL.hang tough:)
[Sep 20, 2009 8:44:10 PM PDT] Laura IL, go to bed, don’t let him suck you in
[Sep 20, 2009 8:44:30 PM PDT] Muddy one more thing…we do watch pumps..
[Sep 20, 2009 8:44:47 PM PDT] Muddy if you see a pump you got…
[Sep 20, 2009 8:45:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EGOH weeeeeeee
[Sep 20, 2009 8:45:17 PM PDT] Muddy and it hits pre late…like they usually do ifd gonna run
[Sep 20, 2009 8:45:29 PM PDT] cwn6161 i need to get to bed, ill have to read the rest of the seminar tomorrow 🙂 thanks again guys for all the assistance
[Sep 20, 2009 8:45:44 PM PDT] Muddy go long
[Sep 20, 2009 8:46:09 PM PDT] Muddy if you have a larger acct for fun
[Sep 20, 2009 8:46:26 PM PDT] Muddy but please stat away if smaller
[Sep 20, 2009 8:46:37 PM PDT] Laura stay*
[Sep 20, 2009 8:46:55 PM PDT] Muddy and yet another tip…
[Sep 20, 2009 8:47:24 PM PDT] Muddy EVEN dollar marks
[Sep 20, 2009 8:47:48 PM PDT] Muddy they are great to trade around imo
[Sep 20, 2009 8:48:09 PM PDT] Muddy it’s the head game thing
[Sep 20, 2009 8:48:22 PM PDT] Muddy they break,go long
[Sep 20, 2009 8:48:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive “psychological break points”
[Sep 20, 2009 8:48:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive i call ’em
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:02 PM PDT] peter IL EGOH can run more tomorrow?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:08 PM PDT] peter big pump right
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive hope so I am long over teh weekend
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like I said I was
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:15 PM PDT] Muddy you can use the breakdown of the even mark as a stop..if not under the pdt rule
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gappppppppper alert
[Sep 20, 2009 8:49:40 PM PDT] Muddy EGOH yes
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:07 PM PDT] Laura One of the zero volume breakouts we talked about a few hours ago
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:16 PM PDT] Laura It could start a walk up the UBB
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive WTAR pump too
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:36 PM PDT] Muddy which brings up Cy or Harmon for cracking the pdt
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:36 PM PDT] SyedB I couldn’t make it to the seminar. Why may I find it now?
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive FORC is hototc I think couldhave legs, former runner
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:43 PM PDT] Laura Or not, the pump and dumps are unpredictable
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:55 PM PDT] Laura Yes, WTAR a great UBB chart too
[Sep 20, 2009 8:50:57 PM PDT] Muddy FORC he he
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