Seminar 8 3/29/2009

by | Mar 30, 2009

[Sun Mar 29 17:00:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Good Evening Guys

[Sun Mar 29 17:00:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Welcome guys, same format as normal – I have received a bunch of questions via e-mail we’ll go over those and then open it up AFTER the questions are answered where you can ask follow up and/or new questions that came up during the seminar ….

[Sun Mar 29 17:00:54 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive as well as looking at some charts … if you think of questions during the night feel free to PM me if the floor isn’t open and I’ll add them to the queue of questions to be answered

[Sun Mar 29 17:01:01 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so from here on out just PM me questions

[Sun Mar 29 17:01:09 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and I’ll format them as we go along

[Sun Mar 29 17:01:41 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’m going to start off with a few questions that I received regarding enter/exit of stocks and resistance levels etc

[Sun Mar 29 17:02:23 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Some of us went over it this week after hours… but many havent see it yet so bare with me on this question and then Muddy will discuss questions regarding SF and cheaper stocks which we saw come into play this week

[Sun Mar 29 17:02:41 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Question: My question how do you guys enter a position do you enter it a resistance level or after it breaches it? I also noticed many times this week that many stocks would break through their resistance only to reverse right back down quickly

[Sun Mar 29 17:02:59 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive This is more of a question for me…

[Sun Mar 29 17:03:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Muddy is purely momentum based and the chart doesn’t really matter to him as much as it does for me

[Sun Mar 29 17:03:45 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I take a look at previous resistance points to get an idea of where the buyers of this run, will meet the sellers of last

[Sun Mar 29 17:04:09 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and how to get in/out

[Sun Mar 29 17:04:28 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so a few from this week LIZ CPSL SFLY

[Sun Mar 29 17:04:35 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and some others I can add on later

[Sun Mar 29 17:04:38 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive take a look at LIZ

[Sun Mar 29 17:04:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’m looking at this chart: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=liz&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=2896&style=340&time=6&freq=1&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=8385&mocktick=1

[Sun Mar 29 17:05:13 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive when i see a stock on the HOD list, that has volume the first thing I do is look at it on the daily chart like this – 3 month

[Sun Mar 29 17:05:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive gives me a quick answer whether I should be looking at this short bias or long bias

[Sun Mar 29 17:05:51 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive give you an example which would change my mind

[Sun Mar 29 17:05:55 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive HIMX

[Sun Mar 29 17:05:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=himx&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=2240421&style=340&time=6&freq=1&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=6109&mocktick=1

[Sun Mar 29 17:06:07 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive solid difference

[Sun Mar 29 17:06:24 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so during the day I pull it up and I know if HIMX pops up on my screen I am going to be short biased rather than buying the breakout

[Sun Mar 29 17:06:30 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so I’ll monitor it for the fade off HODs

[Sun Mar 29 17:06:37 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive vs. the breakout and more HODs

[Sun Mar 29 17:07:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive that’s the first thing I do when i take a look at the chart intraday

[Sun Mar 29 17:07:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive to get a feel for it, and then where support levels/resistance are

[Sun Mar 29 17:07:25 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so LIZ I put in chat on Thursday

[Sun Mar 29 17:07:41 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I said $2.25 is the break I’m looking for

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and as you guys know I look for it to test HOD

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive consolidate and re-test it

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive LIZ came on my scan at $2.20 ish

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:28 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive pulled it up, knew $2.25 break was the one I was interested in

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:48 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it came up $2.20 hit… $2.17-2.18 it consolidated

[Sun Mar 29 17:08:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive some volume came in and re-test on $2.20

[Sun Mar 29 17:09:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive for the break – I entered looking for more highs and the $2.25 break

[Sun Mar 29 17:09:23 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive we got it, I mentioned $2.40 i was taking some off as soon as it hit me

[Sun Mar 29 17:09:38 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so as far as an exit, I usually sell 1/2 my position right after the major break

[Sun Mar 29 17:09:58 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive b/c with a ‘larger’ break on the chart comes at most times a quick spike to take advantage of

[Sun Mar 29 17:10:01 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive .10-.15 cents

[Sun Mar 29 17:10:08 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive (at least in my trading strategy)

[Sun Mar 29 17:10:24 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive sure I miss out on profits but those that aren’t here all day.. part time that just want the quick move

[Sun Mar 29 17:10:48 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive or some like that poke in during their lunch break

[Sun Mar 29 17:10:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive this is the style that works

[Sun Mar 29 17:11:06 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive other’s if you’re on the right side… you can swing it with a trailing stop

[Sun Mar 29 17:11:13 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive like Muddy

[Sun Mar 29 17:11:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Same thing looking at SFLY

[Sun Mar 29 17:11:47 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and WGOV

[Sun Mar 29 17:11:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive SLFY first

[Sun Mar 29 17:12:09 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=sfly&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=2430554&style=340&time=6&freq=1&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=3853&mocktick=1

[Sun Mar 29 17:12:30 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive see the $9 top in early Feb, Mid March and then again Late March

[Sun Mar 29 17:12:54 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive mid march at higher highs followed up by a retest of $9

[Sun Mar 29 17:12:58 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive my interest = $9 break

[Sun Mar 29 17:13:24 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it was on my scan for exactly that break – if it fails, you can take it off without a ridiculous risk on the downside

[Sun Mar 29 17:13:27 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive since overall its bullish

[Sun Mar 29 17:13:45 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive WGOV

[Sun Mar 29 17:14:01 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive same thing I mentioned on Weds looking for $10 break

[Sun Mar 29 17:14:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive at $9.95

[Sun Mar 29 17:14:07 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=wgov&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=5459&style=340&time=4&freq=1&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=4097&mocktick=1

[Sun Mar 29 17:14:26 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive you can see the 3 attempts to break $10 in March on WGOV

[Sun Mar 29 17:14:37 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive when it breaks, I’m interested …

[Sun Mar 29 17:15:07 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I mentioned it would be a decent swing trade more than likely – but for me I was interested in the $10 break and the move off it

[Sun Mar 29 17:15:40 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive the move provided .30-.35 on the upside, then the following day $12

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:00 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so I got a PM regarding a scan for “this”

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive this is the ‘cherry picking’ that I do

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I take my scan which is listed on the dashboard below Muddy‘s

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:37 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and chart each one

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:41 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and look for these patterns

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive or areas of resistance

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and just like Muddy it gets in your head.. then you see it on the HOD/LOD list

[Sun Mar 29 17:16:59 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and you’re ready to go

[Sun Mar 29 17:17:44 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive usually I sell 1/3 or 1/2 on the first move to lock it profits right away b/c I have a very itchy sell finger if I’m in the green… its a habit since I started trading in college between classes

[Sun Mar 29 17:17:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and taught myself to always lock it in

[Sun Mar 29 17:17:55 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so by selling half.. gives me a chance to have patience

[Sun Mar 29 17:18:04 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and potential on more profit

[Sun Mar 29 17:18:15 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but these are the main “momentum pushes” I look to take advantage of

[Sun Mar 29 17:18:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so that’s that… hope that answers the question

[Sun Mar 29 17:19:19 PDT 2009] Laura we have a question on stockfetcher scans…….how to organize the results

[Sun Mar 29 17:19:33 PDT 2009] Laura multiple watchlists or combine the scans

[Sun Mar 29 17:21:20 PDT 2009] Muddy ok,i keep them seperate…

[Sun Mar 29 17:22:26 PDT 2009] Muddy i run the big gainers first for that day and add them to the list i had the night before to the stocks from that list that “failed”

[Sun Mar 29 17:22:39 PDT 2009] Muddy in this case the ones that closed green

[Sun Mar 29 17:23:24 PDT 2009] Muddy then if it was a good red market day,i’ll run and watchlist the RFR losers scan

[Sun Mar 29 17:23:46 PDT 2009] Muddy the dayrangers and combo scan i don’t run every night

[Sun Mar 29 17:23:54 PDT 2009] Muddy only once a week

[Sun Mar 29 17:24:10 PDT 2009] Muddy all these are kept on seperate watchlists

[Sun Mar 29 17:24:29 PDT 2009] Muddy that’s it

[Sun Mar 29 17:25:09 PDT 2009] Laura right, so we may have 2 lists of 20 stocks of each scan.

[Sun Mar 29 17:25:45 PDT 2009] Laura short biased, long biased, dayrangers etc. 100-200 stocks on watch many times.

[Sun Mar 29 17:26:48 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Question for tonight’s seminar has to do with the volume on stocks. Looking at the 5day chart like for FXRE: http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=fxre&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=2&size=2&state=8&sid=3043268&style=320&time=3&freq=7&nosettings=1&rand=7237&mocktick=1&rand=5560 How do you determine if there is only 1 spike for that stock (Wednesdays gain) and how can you foresee that Thursday would have been another big gainer day as well, in which case holding overnight would have paid off. And do stocks that exhibit this type of quick pump and dump behaviour get back down to very little activity and volume for the next little while (seeing little activity for FXRE from Friday onward..)

[Sun Mar 29 17:27:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive To fully understand this I think you need to go back to when the pharma’s were hot under under $2 bucks

[Sun Mar 29 17:27:39 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive go back 3-4 months

[Sun Mar 29 17:27:55 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it had the name “pharma” in it.. and it was on scan… it was worth the risk

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:06 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive they were popping up 40-60% in a day

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive gapping up 20% and running another 20% over night

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:27 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive last week really brought back the momentum for these sub dollar stocks

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive every week is NOT going to be like that

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:38 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive CTIC was unbelievable

[Sun Mar 29 17:28:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive there was a lot of $$ in the market ready for the “next” CTIC

[Sun Mar 29 17:29:02 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and with that you have a ton of board activity with there “pick of the day”

[Sun Mar 29 17:29:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive another one in chat we nailed was LJPC

[Sun Mar 29 17:29:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive at .075 on the HOD list and volume spike

[Sun Mar 29 17:29:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive that tripled or more…

[Sun Mar 29 17:29:45 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive everyone READY for the next so… the quick answer is

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:02 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive we didn’t “forsee” it running to .75 the next day

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:12 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive in fact I don’t think many if any over nighted FXRE

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:19 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but here’s the thing

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:25 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive at .18 Muddy alerted FXRE

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:39 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it had popped up… started walking up slowly and there was volume spike

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:48 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and momentum stayed in the stock .. slowly sneaking up

[Sun Mar 29 17:30:53 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive given everything I just said

[Sun Mar 29 17:31:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive risk vs. reward… it was worth it to jump in..

[Sun Mar 29 17:31:14 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it was just a regular day without pennies flying all over the place

[Sun Mar 29 17:31:29 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive buying a stock up 40-60% would probably be a stupid idea

[Sun Mar 29 17:31:42 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but given the circumstances.. the risk vs. reward is in your favor

[Sun Mar 29 17:31:54 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and/or the downside is limited

[Sun Mar 29 17:32:09 PDT 2009] Laura another question was how to import a stock list into TOS. No clue here, maybe Tort can answer this one.

[Sun Mar 29 17:32:20 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Tort not around so far..

[Sun Mar 29 17:32:28 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so we can skip that for now nad get bcak to it later on

[Sun Mar 29 17:33:37 PDT 2009] Muddy on the kind like the first day spike like FXRE….

[Sun Mar 29 17:34:09 PDT 2009] Muddy i don’t usually but the only longs i’d hold o/n are these kind

[Sun Mar 29 17:34:20 PDT 2009] Muddy only the first dayers though

[Sun Mar 29 17:34:32 PDT 2009] Muddy they very often gap up open

[Sun Mar 29 17:35:14 PDT 2009] Muddy FXRE even gapped the 3rd day

[Sun Mar 29 17:35:25 PDT 2009] Muddy then it tanked

[Sun Mar 29 17:35:42 PDT 2009] Muddy the 3rd day you really got to watch if long

[Sun Mar 29 17:35:52 PDT 2009] Muddy often the curse of these

[Sun Mar 29 17:36:24 PDT 2009] Muddy now ones that are real like HAYZ,that gaps open a bunch

[Sun Mar 29 17:36:39 PDT 2009] Muddy but aren’t good holds after 10am or so

[Sun Mar 29 17:36:56 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive on that same note.. CTIC which had started all this penny madness had gapped down, was selling off… and finished 45% down — so probable fear carries over to other penny pumpers

[Sun Mar 29 17:37:06 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive aka Muddy‘s short bias on FXRE on Friday

[Sun Mar 29 17:37:27 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive regarding Laura‘s last question

[Sun Mar 29 17:37:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive On the TOS Question — Go to Marketwatch -> TOS Index Watch -> Select Watch list -> Create New Watch list -> Import.

[Sun Mar 29 17:39:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive going back to the momentum breakout style

[Sun Mar 29 17:39:13 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive that i discuss

[Sun Mar 29 17:39:21 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I forgot to mention the most important part

[Sun Mar 29 17:39:27 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive taking losses/where to cut them etc

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:00 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive one of the main reasons I play these type is b/c it gives me an area to cut my losses out if it breaks under the support I’m playing it off of

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so for example

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:31 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive on LIZ its heading up slowly… and test HOD … consolidates higher…

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:32 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and breaks

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:41 PDT 2009] Muddy yes,the safest way is to get out right away on these if it starts against you

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it doesn’t break… I’ll keep it and probably give it .10 or so

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:50 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive b/c after that it starts to break down

[Sun Mar 29 17:40:59 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I am going LONG on it b/c of a BULLISH pattern i see

[Sun Mar 29 17:41:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it breaks that BULLISH pattern… then its BEARISH so get out

[Sun Mar 29 17:41:20 PDT 2009] Muddy only because i use 1/30 of account or more on these do i hold longer to see

[Sun Mar 29 17:41:44 PDT 2009] Muddy if it was 1/5 or so i’d cut it right away

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:12 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive correct

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:28 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive more times than not.. 8/10 times this style goes in my favor

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive on average

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:38 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive that’s why I do it…

[Sun Mar 29 17:42:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it works for me, it has for quite some time… so I go with it

[Sun Mar 29 17:43:01 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive 2nd part going back to the “other way to watch the HOD list”

[Sun Mar 29 17:43:08 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive so say I pull something up like HIMX

[Sun Mar 29 17:43:21 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive or TCK

[Sun Mar 29 17:43:33 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive or ASH

[Sun Mar 29 17:43:54 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive ASH coming into Friday on my scan… I wanted to see it “test $10”

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:04 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I look for key points, whole #s to let it touch

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:09 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive then monitor for the fade off these numbers

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:17 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive TCK during the day Friday..

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:32 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive wanted to see it test $3.50.. “Looking to short the fade off 3.50 if it fails to break”

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:42 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive $6.50 I mean

[Sun Mar 29 17:44:51 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive whole numbers, or half numbers… same thing

[Sun Mar 29 17:45:20 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and wait for the momentum to fade (vol fade out… price action to slow)

[Sun Mar 29 17:45:31 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive as far as a stop… usually just above that “point of interest”

[Sun Mar 29 17:45:45 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it had rebroke $6.50… stop just above it..

[Sun Mar 29 17:45:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive etc

[Sun Mar 29 17:46:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Question: Is there a time of day when your style of trading works better?

[Sun Mar 29 17:46:25 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I woudln’t use this the first 15-20 min or the last 15-20 min

[Sun Mar 29 17:46:38 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive probably best to play this style 10am to 3:30pm

[Sun Mar 29 17:46:51 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive gives stocks a chance to establish a trend

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:16 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive also like I said after hours

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:23 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive i always ALWAYS have SPY/FAZ/FAS up

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:35 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive or BAC or hwatever’s leading the market

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if I see the market tanking or looking extremely bearish

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:53 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive instead of monitorin for the breakout… I monitor for the fade

[Sun Mar 29 17:47:56 PDT 2009] Muddy my time works the best right sfter open on jumping the pre movers,and around 1:30 and around 3:30pm

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:13 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’m not going to buy a breakout when SPY is ready to make new lows

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:15 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it doesn’t make sense

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:19 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive for my strategy

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:26 PDT 2009] Muddy thats when i catch the better movers it seems

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive yes

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:39 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive re: Pre Leaders

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive best time 1:30-3:30 watch for them to start perking up

[Sun Mar 29 17:48:54 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive off lows/long consolidation

[Sun Mar 29 17:49:02 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive that’s how I take what Muddy gives in the AM

[Sun Mar 29 17:49:36 PDT 2009] Muddy friday imo SPRD was just perfect play…

[Sun Mar 29 17:49:50 PDT 2009] Muddy thats why i was calling it

[Sun Mar 29 17:50:02 PDT 2009] Muddy it was 1.17 high in pre

[Sun Mar 29 17:50:13 PDT 2009] Muddy it had news with major co.

[Sun Mar 29 17:50:31 PDT 2009] Muddy it opened below 1,i could not believe it

[Sun Mar 29 17:50:42 PDT 2009] Muddy its low float to boot

[Sun Mar 29 17:51:13 PDT 2009] Muddy if you a crap co has news with major co,

[Sun Mar 29 17:51:27 PDT 2009] Muddy you almost know its gonna go

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:00 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive not to mention it had been consolidating around $1 for a month and that was a huge break… http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=sprd&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=2765496&style=340&time=4&freq=1&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=3273&mocktick=1

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:03 PDT 2009] Muddy its why all the ones try to mention likes of AAPL in their pr’s

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:12 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but… me not looking to get into a play right away.. missed it 🙁

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:16 PDT 2009] Muddy this wasnt even a pr

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:22 PDT 2009] Muddy it was real news

[Sun Mar 29 17:52:29 PDT 2009] Muddy with Samsung

[Sun Mar 29 17:54:43 PDT 2009] Muddy folks think maybe hindsight on SPRD…but no…i was 99% it would run when .99…that was a gift…i could not believe it opened there…it was one of the best r/r i’ve seen in a long time

[Sun Mar 29 17:55:35 PDT 2009] Laura Q

[Sun Mar 29 17:55:36 PDT 2009] Laura pathan786: XTLB – opened at .12 entry at .16… went up to .20 .. then faded back to .16. What would he do in terms of exit (when would he have exited)

[Sun Mar 29 17:55:58 PDT 2009] Muddy me,i would have got out even

[Sun Mar 29 17:56:27 PDT 2009] Muddy i’m not jumpy…i would have given it a chance to fly

[Sun Mar 29 17:56:40 PDT 2009] Laura (Mar 29-20:43) pathan786: same for EBHI – opened .44 entry .46 .. went up to .53 and then faded back.

[Sun Mar 29 17:57:09 PDT 2009] Muddy on EBHI because i know its real junker…

[Sun Mar 29 17:57:31 PDT 2009] Muddy i’d have taken profit at .50

[Sun Mar 29 17:57:40 PDT 2009] Muddy then looked to re enter

[Sun Mar 29 17:57:57 PDT 2009] Muddy but EBHI is always i wanna be runner

[Sun Mar 29 17:58:26 PDT 2009] Muddy but you can catch the moves it makes

[Sun Mar 29 17:58:39 PDT 2009] Muddy but i wouldnt trust that on a pullback

[Sun Mar 29 17:58:58 PDT 2009] Muddy i’ve known it for years as a fakeout

[Sun Mar 29 17:59:54 PDT 2009] Muddy imo..XTLB had/has possibilities

[Sun Mar 29 18:00:00 PDT 2009] Muddy from its chart

[Sun Mar 29 18:00:15 PDT 2009] Muddy EBHI just a sometimes mover dog

[Sun Mar 29 18:00:56 PDT 2009] Muddy compare the 2 charts

[Sun Mar 29 18:02:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive So that concludes all e-mail questions that I had received… I’ll open it up now FIRST.. any questions regarding what we’ve gone over TONIGHT? things that doesn’t make sense … would like another example… is still confusing… etc

[Sun Mar 29 18:02:34 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive (open it up 100% after but regarding tonight’s stuff first)

[Sun Mar 29 18:02:39 PDT 2009] pathan786 IL I had two more I sent

[Sun Mar 29 18:02:50 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive mind posting them?

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:24 PDT 2009] pathan786 I am a bit unclear on two scans especially on their “name”.

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:35 PDT 2009] pathan786 1. The Overbought stocks that were on dark side watch today but “failed” to close Red (means they were Green today as well, so even more probability to go down next trading day). What is the name Muddy has for this scan and what is the SF code.

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:45 PDT 2009] pathan786 2. Oversold Stocks that we were long biased today but “failed” to close green today (so even more probability for a bounce the next day). Again, what does Muddy call this scan

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:48 PDT 2009] Muddy if you look at EBHI XTLB do you see the difference

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:51 PDT 2009] pathan786 Is RFR Loser scan = RFR 8%/10%/fail scan = 2. above.

[Sun Mar 29 18:03:58 PDT 2009] pathan786 yes I do

[Sun Mar 29 18:04:36 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive re: EBHI vs XTLB

[Sun Mar 29 18:04:43 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive the .50 to 1.10-1.20 moves early Jan

[Sun Mar 29 18:04:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Late Jan

[Sun Mar 29 18:04:53 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive vs. XTLB .. not so much

[Sun Mar 29 18:06:04 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Question: The Overbought stocks that were on dark side watch today but “failed” to close Red (means they were Green today as well, so even more probability to go down next trading day). What is the name Muddy has for this scan and what is the SF code

[Sun Mar 29 18:06:42 PDT 2009] Laura ok, back to pathan’s questions………….

[Sun Mar 29 18:06:56 PDT 2009] Laura Give Mudd a moment to read the Qs

[Sun Mar 29 18:07:11 PDT 2009] Muddy (Mar 29-21:03) pathan786: 1. The Overbought stocks that were on dark side watch today but “failed” to close Red (means they were Green today as well, so even more probability to go down next trading day). What is the name Muddy has for this scan and what is the SF code.

[Sun Mar 29 18:08:47 PDT 2009] Muddy that is just part of the big gainers scan…what i do first is put up my days watches from today…

[Sun Mar 29 18:09:08 PDT 2009] Muddy and jot down the green ones…those are the fails

[Sun Mar 29 18:10:26 PDT 2009] Muddy (Mar 29-21:03) pathan786: Is RFR Loser scan = RFR 8%/10%/fail scan = 2. above.

[Sun Mar 29 18:10:45 PDT 2009] Muddy no,it’s totally almost opposite

[Sun Mar 29 18:10:59 PDT 2009] Muddy the loser scan shows….

[Sun Mar 29 18:11:20 PDT 2009] Muddy the ones deep red over the last day/days that….

[Sun Mar 29 18:11:28 PDT 2009] pathan786 2 = 2. Oversold Stocks that we were long biased today but “failed” to close green today (so even more probability for a bounce the next day). Again, what does Muddy call this scan

[Sun Mar 29 18:11:47 PDT 2009] Muddy have the stats to show they move over 10% many days on green

[Sun Mar 29 18:15:08 PDT 2009] Laura any stock, whether on the long or short biased filters are called “fails” if they don’t go the way he expects them to. In other words, if you have the RFR scan up, and today you would see more red on some of them, they are “fails”. They go to the top of the list. Just look at today’s list and keep the ones still red.

[Sun Mar 29 18:15:31 PDT 2009] Laura The longer it goes, the stronger they get. But no scan name per se.

[Sun Mar 29 18:16:00 PDT 2009] Muddy right so i automatically…

[Sun Mar 29 18:16:26 PDT 2009] Muddy pull up yesterdays fails on both and add them to todays

[Sun Mar 29 18:18:14 PDT 2009] Muddy on the big gainers then i just add the new ones…

[Sun Mar 29 18:18:25 PDT 2009] Muddy sorted by % change up

[Sun Mar 29 18:18:53 PDT 2009] Muddy i dont have to bother with the fails,they are automactically entered in watch

[Sun Mar 29 18:19:23 PDT 2009] Muddy take ALY on s/s watch

[Sun Mar 29 18:19:32 PDT 2009] Muddy if its green monday

[Sun Mar 29 18:19:36 PDT 2009] Muddy i auto add

[Sun Mar 29 18:19:55 PDT 2009] Muddy that way cuts alot of time out of scanning

[Sun Mar 29 18:20:06 PDT 2009] pathan786 does it mean you wont play it long on Monday

[Sun Mar 29 18:20:13 PDT 2009] pathan786 if it presents itself

[Sun Mar 29 18:20:26 PDT 2009] Muddy ALY say is 1% up

[Sun Mar 29 18:20:45 PDT 2009] Muddy thats NOT gonna hit the big gain list,right?

[Sun Mar 29 18:21:08 PDT 2009] Muddy but its a fail,its been on the list AS a big gainer

[Sun Mar 29 18:21:23 PDT 2009] Muddy so you catch the ubb walkers

[Sun Mar 29 18:21:40 PDT 2009] Muddy like the ones i listed today on IU

[Sun Mar 29 18:21:53 PDT 2009] Muddy they just keep walking up

[Sun Mar 29 18:22:23 PDT 2009] Muddy most may not hit big gainers scan over a day or 2 but in long run yes

[Sun Mar 29 18:23:03 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/dashboard/

[Sun Mar 29 18:23:14 PDT 2009] Muddy all these IVAN HEV APAC OMNI CTBK MOD CSUN FREE EVK HAYZ LNET BLDP SOLR ESLR VVTV

[Sun Mar 29 18:23:30 PDT 2009] Muddy over 1 or 2 days not supernova like

[Sun Mar 29 18:23:44 PDT 2009] Muddy but over time,big compiled runs

[Sun Mar 29 18:24:05 PDT 2009] Muddy you track fails you will always have them in your head

[Sun Mar 29 18:24:21 PDT 2009] Muddy now i know…

[Sun Mar 29 18:24:28 PDT 2009] Muddy them if i see red

[Sun Mar 29 18:24:45 PDT 2009] Muddy they would be the first i’d try

[Sun Mar 29 18:25:06 PDT 2009] pathan786 It may already be on GOTS and I may have missed.. but.. are SF codes for both these scans on gots ? big gainers / loosers.

[Sun Mar 29 18:27:03 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’m Gonna Try post I believe which is linked from our site and the SF scans listed.. Muddy can confirm if not

[Sun Mar 29 18:27:20 PDT 2009] pathan786 I see day rangers and combo clearly mentioned ..

[Sun Mar 29 18:27:21 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Any others unrelated to tonights discussion that had questions pop up?

[Sun Mar 29 18:28:07 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Questions on anything I went over?

[Sun Mar 29 18:30:39 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive alright then

[Sun Mar 29 18:30:44 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive well Im going to do some scans for tomorrow

[Sun Mar 29 18:30:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive will post them as I go thru

[Sun Mar 29 18:31:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and then put a scan together

[Sun Mar 29 18:31:58 PDT 2009] Muddy yes,all codes on I’m gonna try post

[Sun Mar 29 18:32:49 PDT 2009] Muddy remember…the rfr loser scan is most powerful after a big red day

[Sun Mar 29 18:33:50 PDT 2009] pathan786 RFR loser is the one that you added on 1/1/09 ?

[Sun Mar 29 18:34:15 PDT 2009] pathan786 /* RUN FOREST, RUN for 1 day 8 pct loss, 2 day 10 pct loss or more */ /* and fails */

[Sun Mar 29 18:34:38 PDT 2009] Muddy yes that one

[Sun Mar 29 18:34:50 PDT 2009] pathan786 coool… finally !!! 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 18:35:03 PDT 2009] Muddy it should be sorted by times run over 10%

[Sun Mar 29 18:35:42 PDT 2009] Muddy or even better…

[Sun Mar 29 18:36:08 PDT 2009] Muddy the total of that plus its adr10

[Sun Mar 29 18:36:40 PDT 2009] Muddy me,i use the total

[Sun Mar 29 18:37:09 PDT 2009] Muddy AXL is a total 69.58

[Sun Mar 29 18:37:23 PDT 2009] Muddy 10% run 37%

[Sun Mar 29 18:37:37 PDT 2009] Muddy adr10 32.58

[Sun Mar 29 18:37:46 PDT 2009] Muddy thus the high total

[Sun Mar 29 18:38:09 PDT 2009] Muddy then you look at the % it has fell over last 1 or 2 days

[Sun Mar 29 18:38:27 PDT 2009] Muddy and decicide if to watch or not/on green

[Sun Mar 29 18:39:43 PDT 2009] pathan786 so you are looking at ones that have run up in the past.. but oversold last few days

[Sun Mar 29 18:41:31 PDT 2009] Muddy since AXL a fail from thurs i auto added it

[Sun Mar 29 18:41:42 PDT 2009] Muddy yes,correct

[Sun Mar 29 18:42:00 PDT 2009] Muddy and it works best after a big red day

[Sun Mar 29 18:42:15 PDT 2009] Muddy cause of the general market flip flop

[Sun Mar 29 18:42:31 PDT 2009] Muddy up one day/down the next etc.

[Sun Mar 29 18:42:43 PDT 2009] pathan786 but AXL just went from .26 to 1.76

[Sun Mar 29 18:44:16 PDT 2009] Muddy a loss of 10% qualifies it to me friday

[Sun Mar 29 18:44:44 PDT 2009] Muddy the times it has been green over last 100 days…

[Sun Mar 29 18:45:04 PDT 2009] Muddy it has run 10% or more 37 times

[Sun Mar 29 18:45:24 PDT 2009] Muddy thats pretty good r/r on green after a 10% down day

[Sun Mar 29 18:45:47 PDT 2009] Muddy if it goes red/stays red mon

[Sun Mar 29 18:45:57 PDT 2009] Muddy all the better,i hope it does

[Sun Mar 29 18:47:26 PDT 2009] Muddy take PGPDQ…

[Sun Mar 29 18:47:55 PDT 2009] Muddy high of 2.99 to 1.52 last 5 days…

[Sun Mar 29 18:48:40 PDT 2009] pathan786 and many green days in last 100 days PGPDQ, but last 5 days big time reds

[Sun Mar 29 18:48:53 PDT 2009] Muddy it has the high 10% run of 35%

[Sun Mar 29 18:49:11 PDT 2009] Muddy plus its adr 10 is 25.4

[Sun Mar 29 18:49:21 PDT 2009] Muddy thats decent odds on green

[Sun Mar 29 18:49:56 PDT 2009] Muddy exactly.pathan,thats what i’m looking for

[Sun Mar 29 18:50:26 PDT 2009] Muddy and because i use more than 1 monitor…

[Sun Mar 29 18:50:36 PDT 2009] Muddy i can see these watchlists

[Sun Mar 29 18:51:15 PDT 2009] Muddy so PGPDQ i dont need to see on the hod list…i have that list up on 1 monitor

[Sun Mar 29 18:54:05 PDT 2009] Muddy take one like LCAV off that list

[Sun Mar 29 18:54:25 PDT 2009] Terri wow this is more complex than I thought….

[Sun Mar 29 18:54:27 PDT 2009] Muddy its down big last 2 days

[Sun Mar 29 18:54:41 PDT 2009] Muddy but has good history of 10% runs

[Sun Mar 29 18:55:26 PDT 2009] Muddy 20% over 10% but also 42% between 5-10%

[Sun Mar 29 18:55:42 PDT 2009] Muddy thats the stuff i look at and its all in that scan

[Sun Mar 29 18:56:25 PDT 2009] Muddy well,just one click and that scan shows its history over last 100 days

[Sun Mar 29 18:56:57 PDT 2009] Muddy so LCAV has 62% shot of over 5% on green hit

[Sun Mar 29 18:57:22 PDT 2009] pathan786 20% + 42%?

[Sun Mar 29 18:57:30 PDT 2009] Muddy and its down 3.4 to 2.5 last 2 days

[Sun Mar 29 18:58:08 PDT 2009] Muddy yes you see it…

[Sun Mar 29 18:58:11 PDT 2009] Muddy LCAV – LCA-Vision Inc. 2.50 -21.88 570600 -21.88 -26.25 29.00 42.00 20.00 35.28

[Sun Mar 29 18:59:02 PDT 2009] Muddy 35.28 is it total added with its adr10

[Sun Mar 29 18:59:25 PDT 2009] Muddy of 15.28

[Sun Mar 29 18:59:32 PDT 2009] Muddy added to 20%

[Sun Mar 29 18:59:48 PDT 2009] Muddy its really simple and all done for you

[Sun Mar 29 18:59:56 PDT 2009] Muddy just sort by total

[Sun Mar 29 19:01:37 PDT 2009] Muddy i’m just looking for good odds

[Sun Mar 29 19:02:39 PDT 2009] Muddy plus because market big red fri,makes it a bit better

[Sun Mar 29 19:02:50 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive speaking of red

[Sun Mar 29 19:02:59 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive nLODs on the futures

[Sun Mar 29 19:03:11 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive low of 805.25… currently 806.50

[Sun Mar 29 19:03:25 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive straight down since opening

[Sun Mar 29 19:04:09 PDT 2009] Muddy then that setsup the s/s watches better

[Sun Mar 29 19:04:18 PDT 2009] Muddy plus the pre gappers

[Sun Mar 29 19:04:39 PDT 2009] Muddy either way,i just watch the action

[Sun Mar 29 19:04:50 PDT 2009] Muddy and try to play accordingly

[Sun Mar 29 19:05:21 PDT 2009] Muddy i dont care if up or down,just like it big either way for volatility

[Sun Mar 29 19:05:48 PDT 2009] Muddy and thats where the pdt rule stinks

[Sun Mar 29 19:06:04 PDT 2009] Muddy cause those not under it can trade away

[Sun Mar 29 19:06:18 PDT 2009] Muddy those that are are in a bind

[Sun Mar 29 19:07:33 PDT 2009] Muddy if this wasnt a hobby and serious about trading,one should do anything to get out from under that rule,imo

[Sun Mar 29 19:14:37 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 well… thanks all! Great as usual… (only saying because it’s been quite for 5 mins) 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 19:16:38 PDT 2009] Laura night guys, I’m out

[Sun Mar 29 19:16:58 PDT 2009] Laura if other Qs for Mudd, spit em out

[Sun Mar 29 19:18:06 PDT 2009] Androo I’m just about to graduate school, and no job yet. I’ve been wanting to daytrade for a very long time, tried a few times, but didn’t put time into it…cause of school and lack of commitment. But I’ve been reading

[Sun Mar 29 19:18:18 PDT 2009] Androo and getting ready and prepared, reading as much as I can, and watching on days that I can

[Sun Mar 29 19:18:25 PDT 2009] Androo watching the market*

[Sun Mar 29 19:19:17 PDT 2009] Androo I’ve lost money, and the PDT really hinders me (I think). I’ll go try Cygroup, but I think I need to do some paper trading beforehand

[Sun Mar 29 19:19:41 PDT 2009] Androo And I see, in real time, the movers and shakers. But I don’t jump in, either cause I think it’s over (the run), or I’m scared

[Sun Mar 29 19:19:53 PDT 2009] Androo Then hindsight kicks in

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:19 PDT 2009] Androo So I don’t really know what the best way for me to “learn” persay is…

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:40 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 Androo… if I may shed a bit of light on this… noob to newb…

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:44 PDT 2009] Androo Sure

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:50 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive yea thats proll ybest

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:52 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 like you, I started out reading, watching…

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:53 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive thx noob!

[Sun Mar 29 19:20:59 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 etc.

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:03 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 asking LOTS of Q’s

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:11 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 at the end of the day…

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:15 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah, I think we started out in this room around the same time Noob =)

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:15 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 you have to jump in

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:18 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 with both feet

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:42 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 the best experience is experience…

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:58 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 hardest part about gaining experience is you get the lesson first the experience afterwards

[Sun Mar 29 19:21:59 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 but

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:03 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah, and I have traded before. Just…blindly. Very blind. Following the alerts, but doing poorly

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:10 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 as long as you learn alogn teh way a

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:11 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 nd

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:11 PDT 2009] Androo And let’s just say, I’ve lost. A lot.

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:28 PDT 2009] bmon micheal jordan can teach you how to play ball that doesnt mean your going to be mj

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:47 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 anyhow…

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:52 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 play with waht you can…

[Sun Mar 29 19:22:58 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 don’t got over board…

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:00 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 and don’t be afraid.

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:01 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:11 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 like Sir Muddy says… DO NOT TRADE WITH SCARED MONEY!

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:12 PDT 2009] tv michael jordan was told by his teacher in gr9 that he would never be something and he locked himself in his room and cried

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:20 PDT 2009] Androo Scared money, bleh.

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:27 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 enjoy the process… have fun… and if you happen to win a few bucks…

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:29 PDT 2009] Androo What if it will always be scared money? lol.

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:32 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 stack your chips…

[Sun Mar 29 19:23:42 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 trading is humbling… but a great lesson of self.

[Sun Mar 29 19:24:10 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 emotionally, spritually, mentally… psychologically… imo of course

[Sun Mar 29 19:24:20 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 anyhow… my two cents… 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 19:24:25 PDT 2009] Androo thanks noob 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 19:24:56 PDT 2009] Androo People chuckle when I tell them I want to daytrade

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:17 PDT 2009] bmon yeah androo they did when i first told people too

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:30 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 as them what they want to be… and chuckle back

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:42 PDT 2009] Androo I just want to get good at it

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:44 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 same thing… LIKE ANYTHING… if you want to be great… you don’t start at the top

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:46 PDT 2009] bmon when you can drop cash on their home and car then you chuckle back

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:49 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 you ahve to earn it!

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:49 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah…

[Sun Mar 29 19:25:56 PDT 2009] Androo start athte bottom

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:01 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 i’

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:07 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 i’d take the ego out it

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:14 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 imo

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:19 PDT 2009] pathan786 fwiw, if I may add .. if you are new like me.. either trade Muddy way or IL/Tort way.. don’t try all things at once..

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:24 PDT 2009] Androo I’m not really for the ego, just for myself you know?

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:36 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 indeed

[Sun Mar 29 19:26:48 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah, I like Muddy‘s way, just dayrangers

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:06 PDT 2009] Androo I need to find a good set of rules that I can trade by. And I have to do things for myself

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:13 PDT 2009] Androo rather than relying on tohers opnions and stuff

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:23 PDT 2009] Androo So if the chat went away, I could still be independant

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:32 PDT 2009] pathan786 then.. though easier said than done.. take your 5% /10% profit and get out of the trade.. and don’t look back at how much others took off it.

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:37 PDT 2009] pathan786 atleast initially

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:55 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah

[Sun Mar 29 19:27:59 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 Andro…

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:23 PDT 2009] Androo Yes?

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:24 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 3 rules that I trade by… (to keep it has simple as possible)…

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:34 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 ENFORCE SELF DISCIPLINE

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:38 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 BE PATIENT

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:45 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 CUT LOSSES QUICKLY

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:48 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 it’s on my blog…

[Sun Mar 29 19:28:54 PDT 2009] Androo Read it 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:02 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 although I haven’t updated it in forever…

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:10 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 just a few more cents.

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:10 PDT 2009] Androo Ha, that’ salright, we all get busy

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:21 PDT 2009] Androo Self discipline – what are some examples… I have a hard time with that

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:23 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 wtf to i know though… I’m a noob too! ha

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:34 PDT 2009] Androo But really need to start enforcing it on myself.

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:42 PDT 2009] bmon many examples, when you say your going to enter and exit a trade etc

[Sun Mar 29 19:29:47 PDT 2009] Androo I do well when others put deadlines and such on me… but when the world’s my own…it’s tough

[Sun Mar 29 19:30:27 PDT 2009] bmon well thats another one androo

[Sun Mar 29 19:30:37 PDT 2009] bmon self motivation is a great thing

[Sun Mar 29 19:30:48 PDT 2009] tv What i would suggest

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:02 PDT 2009] tv is that you paper trade for a little while

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:04 PDT 2009] Androo Mmhmm. I think I need to set a time each night to certain things…like a schedule

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:07 PDT 2009] tv use the chat and what not

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:16 PDT 2009] tv and see how you do

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:30 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah, I need to do that. I try using real money, but under PDT it sucks

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:36 PDT 2009] Derffie you need to simplify your trading to the highest percentage success situations.. for example ONLY trade stocks at whole dollar crosses… learn to do those well.. then try other stuff

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:39 PDT 2009] tv so you can learn how to best utilize your resources

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:47 PDT 2009] Androo I try to “pick” trades, only missing on the good ones, getting in the not so good ones

[Sun Mar 29 19:31:58 PDT 2009] tv before you just put money in it randomly with skills or weaknesses you havent even discovered yet

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:01 PDT 2009] Androo and then I let my losses run, cause = no discipline yet

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:15 PDT 2009] Androo good point derffie

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:18 PDT 2009] tv when you enter a trade

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:21 PDT 2009] tv enter a stop

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:32 PDT 2009] tv and thats it watch it

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:36 PDT 2009] tv dont touch the stop

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:46 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah..

[Sun Mar 29 19:32:54 PDT 2009] tv if your more confident put a trailing stop

[Sun Mar 29 19:33:08 PDT 2009] bmon well you can touch the stop if it moves i your favor but only move it up or use a trailing stop

[Sun Mar 29 19:33:25 PDT 2009] tv yea that would be a trailing stop

[Sun Mar 29 19:33:47 PDT 2009] tv but y=usually when new people stsart out they move it even if its not in ther favor

[Sun Mar 29 19:33:52 PDT 2009] bmon or you could move your STOP up tv not a trailing stop but yeah not to confuse the newbs

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:02 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 (Mar 29-19:31) tv: before you just put money in it randomly with skills or weaknesses you havent even discovered yet HAA, I’m SOOO guilty of this! nice point TV

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:24 PDT 2009] tv lol its ok

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:30 PDT 2009] tv my first week of trading

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:33 PDT 2009] tv 1st day

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:40 PDT 2009] tv i made 10%

[Sun Mar 29 19:34:45 PDT 2009] tv then i was an idiot

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:00 PDT 2009] Androo Ha

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:06 PDT 2009] tv and lost once after a streek of like maybe 3 wins

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:21 PDT 2009] tv then i consistently bet more to make up for my losses

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:25 PDT 2009] tv it snowballed

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:41 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 yeah, winning out of the gate… teh worst possible thing that could happen to a newbster

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:43 PDT 2009] tv took out half my account it jsut eventually turned into pure gambling almsot

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:50 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 yep

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:55 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive (Mar 29-22:35) tv: then i consistently bet more to make up for my losses

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:57 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive (Mar 29-22:35) tv: then i consistently bet more to make up for my losses

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:58 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive (Mar 29-22:35) tv: then i consistently bet more to make up for my losses

[Sun Mar 29 19:35:59 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 been there experienced that!

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:00 PDT 2009] bmon could look at it both ways noob losing out the gate could make you scared

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive i said it 3x on purpose

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:09 PDT 2009] bmon then your trading with scard money

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:19 PDT 2009] bmon depending on ones personality of course

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:21 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive how many times have I told peeps that

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:26 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive the ones that are just coming into trading

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:32 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive not picking on you tv…

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:37 PDT 2009] tv that was a long time ago lol

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:44 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive exactly tho

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:46 PDT 2009] tv im much more consistent now

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive yup

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:56 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive it takes u over… and u wanna make it all back

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:57 PDT 2009] tv but yea hopefully you dont have to do what i did

[Sun Mar 29 19:36:58 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but in reality

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:05 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive ur only asking to get burned

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:20 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but sometimes its the best thing to happen to people

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:26 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive hopefully its not a “lot”

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:29 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but its enough to make u go

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:30 PDT 2009] tv i think Muddy said one of the best methods

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:32 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive “oh shittttttt”

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:41 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and make u realize sure its just numbers in ur account

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:43 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but its real money

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:47 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and u can still lose it

[Sun Mar 29 19:37:49 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and lose it fast

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:01 PDT 2009] Androo exactly happened to me.

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:07 PDT 2009] tv i only stared out with like 2k so in reality my loss is not bad at all

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:15 PDT 2009] tv i started small on purpose

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:20 PDT 2009] Androo When I step back to realize how much I’ve lost…relative to what I own…wow

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:22 PDT 2009] tv and it was the best thing ive done

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:27 PDT 2009] Androo I started out too much.

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:29 PDT 2009] bmon small is the way to go at first

[Sun Mar 29 19:38:57 PDT 2009] tv also in how you handle your trades this has worked for me

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:02 PDT 2009] bmon its like turning 16 your not going to go out and buy a ferrari when your first learning to drive…well unless your parents are rich and dumb but yeah

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:06 PDT 2009] tv Muddy even wrote it somewhere i dont know where

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:18 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/dashboard/

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:22 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive stocks on watch tomorrow

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:40 PDT 2009] tv only use a small amount of money on each trade that way your emotions wont turn into PMS

[Sun Mar 29 19:39:53 PDT 2009] tv those small gains add up FAST

[Sun Mar 29 19:40:15 PDT 2009] bmon yep def

[Sun Mar 29 19:40:19 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive yes small gains to add up

[Sun Mar 29 19:40:31 PDT 2009] Androo Yea I need to realize that =(

[Sun Mar 29 19:40:40 PDT 2009] tv and the smaller your in the less your emotions will get involved in my opinion

[Sun Mar 29 19:40:50 PDT 2009] tv you wont see things in charts that arent really there

[Sun Mar 29 19:41:15 PDT 2009] bmon no need for the home run or hail mary on every play

[Sun Mar 29 19:41:57 PDT 2009] tv after i went out of control on the market i took a break of 2months just relaxing and what not watching it very casually and i think that made me a better trader

[Sun Mar 29 19:42:09 PDT 2009] tv i actually almost made up all my losses this month

[Sun Mar 29 19:42:15 PDT 2009] bmon like a punt returner in football what happens generally when they try to make a big play out of nothing…they go backwards or fumble

[Sun Mar 29 19:42:45 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 NICE ANA!! BMON!

[Sun Mar 29 19:42:47 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 😀

[Sun Mar 29 19:42:56 PDT 2009] Androo Haha

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:05 PDT 2009] Androo OH I GET IT NOW lol

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:05 PDT 2009] bmon haha sorry i use alot of analogies relating to sports since i played sports my whole life 😛

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:21 PDT 2009] Androo you guys were talking gibberish until that analogy. lol

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:31 PDT 2009] tv lol no worries

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:36 PDT 2009] Androo it’s too bad we don’t have drawing board on this chat.

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:45 PDT 2009] Androo we could draw pictures. lol

[Sun Mar 29 19:43:45 PDT 2009] bmon hahaha

[Sun Mar 29 19:44:43 PDT 2009] Androo def great advice. once i sorta sit back and learn a bit more, and when i have time to dedicate 5 days a week full market, I’ll paper trade

[Sun Mar 29 19:44:51 PDT 2009] Androo see if I can do well without PDT

[Sun Mar 29 19:44:51 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive Androo during trading hours

[Sun Mar 29 19:44:55 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive if u are thinkin something

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:00 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and want to see if ur on the right path

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:03 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive feel free to PM me

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:09 PDT 2009] Androo Sure IL

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:12 PDT 2009] tv ooh one more thing

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:14 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive obviously im not always right

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:15 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive but

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:18 PDT 2009] tv write down your mistakes

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:19 PDT 2009] Androo guess it’ll be good to have another set of eyes

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:19 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive u can see if ur thought process

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:21 PDT 2009] tv log it

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:22 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive is same as mine

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:28 PDT 2009] Androo okay, write down mistakes

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:28 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive and/or Muddy‘s

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:30 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive he love sto help too

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:54 PDT 2009] bmon yes logging your mistakes is great especially if you write them right after you make them then post em on your wall

[Sun Mar 29 19:45:55 PDT 2009] tv i have a trade journal

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:03 PDT 2009] tv i think its helpful i write every trade

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:09 PDT 2009] bmon haha hence IL why i did a crop job that one night 😉

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:26 PDT 2009] Androo here’s one. LJPC. Chased that hardcore

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:29 PDT 2009] Androo Friday

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:54 PDT 2009] tv wow your really playing pennys

[Sun Mar 29 19:46:58 PDT 2009] tv haha i dont have the stomach for that

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:01 PDT 2009] Androo yeah, another mistake 😐

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:21 PDT 2009] Androo I’ve just seen the pennies go this week, so I figured maybe LJPC was one too

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:25 PDT 2009] Androo that would keep going

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:39 PDT 2009] bmon be careful with pennies especially when new androo

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:46 PDT 2009] Androo but it didn’t.

[Sun Mar 29 19:47:50 PDT 2009] Androo yeah…

[Sun Mar 29 19:48:02 PDT 2009] bmon i personally suck at playing them for the most part

[Sun Mar 29 19:48:27 PDT 2009] tv im only going to play them once i have bag of prpfit to mess with lol

[Sun Mar 29 19:48:36 PDT 2009] bmon well the ones .20 and under at least for me

[Sun Mar 29 19:48:48 PDT 2009] tv too scary for ome i just like watching Muddy and trying to learn

[Sun Mar 29 19:49:00 PDT 2009] Androo yeah

[Sun Mar 29 19:50:20 PDT 2009] randy841 S&P 500 807.10 -9.00 812.50 815.10 805.50 22:17

[Sun Mar 29 19:51:49 PDT 2009] tv haha il i had VTNC and YRCW in my watchlist for tomorrow

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:02 PDT 2009] tv VTNC seems to be somewhat illiquid

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:13 PDT 2009] Derffie GM to get interim U.S. aid to restructure over next 60 days

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:32 PDT 2009] Derffie sorry wrong window

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:34 PDT 2009] bmon you could throw 2 trillion at GM they would still be worthless

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:37 PDT 2009] tv futures are red everywhere on bloomberg

[Sun Mar 29 19:52:57 PDT 2009] tv whats the point of giving gm money if they cant sell what they have been trying to sell for the decades

[Sun Mar 29 19:53:18 PDT 2009] Derffie with enough money they can just give cars away to maintain market share I guess

[Sun Mar 29 19:53:41 PDT 2009] tv maybe its an american pride thing

[Sun Mar 29 19:53:47 PDT 2009] bmon like giving a crackhead money to start a business when all hes gonna do is light it up

[Sun Mar 29 19:53:52 PDT 2009] Androo YRCW is a good one

[Sun Mar 29 19:53:57 PDT 2009] tv we cant let our main american car company go down

[Sun Mar 29 19:54:09 PDT 2009] tv oh nooez

[Sun Mar 29 19:54:15 PDT 2009] tv yea yrcw seems to be liquid

[Sun Mar 29 19:54:42 PDT 2009] tv but i think a bigger crash on VTNC

[Sun Mar 29 19:55:12 PDT 2009] tv especially if the market is red since there are less sharholders so if they start selling the more it will fall

[Sun Mar 29 19:55:16 PDT 2009] Androo Yeah, just less volume

[Sun Mar 29 19:55:45 PDT 2009] bmon YRCW plenty liquid

[Sun Mar 29 19:56:21 PDT 2009] Androo Hope YRCW pops to 5 in open, then drops.

[Sun Mar 29 19:56:26 PDT 2009] Androo gaps*

[Sun Mar 29 19:56:29 PDT 2009] Androo that’d be ideal ha.

[Sun Mar 29 19:56:39 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive doubt it with futures

[Sun Mar 29 19:56:46 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive unless futures start to make a turn for better

[Sun Mar 29 19:57:06 PDT 2009] tv its down 11cents in after hours

[Sun Mar 29 19:57:50 PDT 2009] Derffie ACH reports 99% profit drop and chairman resigns… us exes should take a lesson

[Sun Mar 29 19:58:09 PDT 2009] tv those 2 are my fave shorts tomorrow cause i dont see how a trucking company will maintain if whatever it ships is losing money

[Sun Mar 29 19:58:29 PDT 2009] tv i think the market should be a good indicator for these 2 stocks but this is just a hypothesis

[Sun Mar 29 20:00:56 PDT 2009] tv FREE looks interesting as well

[Sun Mar 29 20:13:04 PDT 2009] johnnyvento ]

[Sun Mar 29 20:14:15 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive ]

[Sun Mar 29 20:14:21 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive thats all u have to say?

[Sun Mar 29 20:19:24 PDT 2009] tortexal http://www.flickr.com/photos/fodder/3394516458/

[Sun Mar 29 20:20:00 PDT 2009] bmon niiiiiiice tort

[Sun Mar 29 20:20:21 PDT 2009] bmon white lambo black wheels=sexy

[Sun Mar 29 20:20:59 PDT 2009] tortexal mercy me ::beer

[Sun Mar 29 20:21:00 PDT 2009] InvestorsLive sick

[Sun Mar 29 20:27:18 PDT 2009] johnnyvento ] was my elbo talking

[Sun Mar 29 20:27:34 PDT 2009] johnnyvento but it looked like a cryptic smile

[Sun Mar 29 20:27:47 PDT 2009] johnnyvento I’m a man of few emoticons

[Sun Mar 29 20:27:58 PDT 2009] johnnyvento where is lighter?

[Sun Mar 29 20:41:16 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 Exquisite automobile!

[Sun Mar 29 20:41:18 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkoIQAmr-Ec

[Sun Mar 29 20:42:11 PDT 2009] bmon mmm 599

[Sun Mar 29 20:43:38 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 20:45:34 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0QycBBVRQM&feature=related

[Sun Mar 29 20:45:37 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 better vid

[Sun Mar 29 20:47:29 PDT 2009] bmon nice!

[Sun Mar 29 20:47:51 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 ha… nice little tid-bit at the end of the vid too! lol!

[Sun Mar 29 20:48:24 PDT 2009] bmon haha i was just going to say that

[Sun Mar 29 20:48:40 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 😀

[Sun Mar 29 20:52:34 PDT 2009] bmon you watch F1 noob?

[Sun Mar 29 20:53:12 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 no man… NFL, MLB here. Just have a love for Italian and German exotic sports cars.

[Sun Mar 29 20:53:24 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 and some British ones too.

[Sun Mar 29 20:53:29 PDT 2009] bmon ahhhh cool! same here

[Sun Mar 29 20:53:41 PDT 2009] bmon plus racing for me

[Sun Mar 29 20:53:44 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 nice.

[Sun Mar 29 20:54:33 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 I’m sure if time permitted… and the learning curve wasn’t too high… I could get into racing… I love cars… to drive them… but… blah, blah, blah…

[Sun Mar 29 20:54:46 PDT 2009] bmon haha yeah i watch just a few series

[Sun Mar 29 20:54:55 PDT 2009] bmon F1 being my fav insane cars 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 20:55:59 PDT 2009] bmon fast paced, strategic, and the race only lasts 2 hours tops

[Sun Mar 29 20:56:14 PDT 2009] bmon even less if you dvr it and fast foward though the commericals

[Sun Mar 29 20:56:33 PDT 2009] bmon who do you like in MLB?

[Sun Mar 29 20:58:36 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 A’s and Cubs

[Sun Mar 29 20:58:43 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 I

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:03 PDT 2009] bmon ahh the cubbies!

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:04 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 ‘ve been an A’s fan since birth (well since the birth of the Bash Bros… so early 80’s

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:10 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 late 80’s

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:22 PDT 2009] ultimachi Nice vid Noob! Like the bit at the end. So true. So simple. Make your money work for you

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:27 PDT 2009] bmon nice shoulda been the roid bros 😛

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:30 PDT 2009] bmon na im j/k haha

[Sun Mar 29 20:59:57 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 lol

[Sun Mar 29 21:00:07 PDT 2009] bmon i remember (ive been a sox cubs fan my whole life) i was at a sox vs a’s game back in the early 90s and all the boos when canseco came up to bat everytime haha it was great

[Sun Mar 29 21:00:13 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 thanks ult… yes, great message though!

[Sun Mar 29 21:00:50 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 man, now there is a guy who had it all… 40/40 season! and ego killed everything!

[Sun Mar 29 21:00:50 PDT 2009] bmon utl wheres your buddy?

[Sun Mar 29 21:00:56 PDT 2009] bmon yep!

[Sun Mar 29 21:01:40 PDT 2009] bmon then he goes on that one show cant remember the name and then writes a book about roids

[Sun Mar 29 21:01:53 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 lol!!

[Sun Mar 29 21:01:57 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 they all did it…

[Sun Mar 29 21:02:12 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 not to stir up controversy here, BUT…

[Sun Mar 29 21:02:24 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 i think of the roids thing like this…

[Sun Mar 29 21:02:41 PDT 2009] tortexal http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3544/3396951385_38b5d8cdb9.jpg

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:06 PDT 2009] bmon what is that tort lol

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:15 PDT 2009] tortexal my new puppy sleeping in the office 🙂

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:18 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 does it really matter to that Barry Bonds is using roids when you pay $50 or more for a ticket?

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:31 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 I want that mofo to hit 3 HR’s a game… if I’m here.

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:36 PDT 2009] bmon niiiiiiiice!!! and nice floors

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:38 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 there is more to my point…

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:42 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 one sec

[Sun Mar 29 21:03:47 PDT 2009] bmon lol yep i like that noob

[Sun Mar 29 21:04:11 PDT 2009] tortexal see you guys ina few hours we’re off to bed ::beer

[Sun Mar 29 21:04:21 PDT 2009] bmon later ::beer

[Sun Mar 29 21:04:39 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 however, IF he breaks ANY MLB records, AFTER being tested positive for roids… just put an * next to it… no biggie… then everyone knows…

[Sun Mar 29 21:05:06 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 I understand he isn’t sending a good message to kids… but hey life ain’t perfect…

[Sun Mar 29 21:05:10 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 I have a 2 year old son…

[Sun Mar 29 21:05:39 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 he’ll know better…

[Sun Mar 29 21:06:01 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 later tort!

[Sun Mar 29 21:06:07 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 bmon… i’m out too!

[Sun Mar 29 21:06:15 PDT 2009] Noobtrader.08 until tomorrow!

[Sun Mar 29 21:08:45 PDT 2009] bmon have a good one noob see ya soon ::beer

[Sun Mar 29 21:09:02 PDT 2009] bmon very true noob

[Sun Mar 29 22:10:38 PDT 2009] bernalb123 www.craigslist.com

[Sun Mar 29 22:10:44 PDT 2009] bernalb123 woops sorry

[Sun Mar 29 22:10:51 PDT 2009] bmon are you selling yourself bernalb?

[Sun Mar 29 22:10:54 PDT 2009] bernalb123 i meant to type that in my brouser

[Sun Mar 29 22:10:56 PDT 2009] bernalb123 lol

[Sun Mar 29 22:12:41 PDT 2009] bmon hahaha

[Sun Mar 29 22:39:36 PDT 2009] bernalb123 TT you all in the morning…Keep our fingers crossed for some rallying stocks

[Sun Mar 29 23:03:26 PDT 2009] bmon gn bernalb

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