Seminar Regarding OTC Trading and General Q and A

by | Dec 19, 2010

[Dec 19, 2010 8:00:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive wassssup all

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive got only a few questions this time around

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:23 PM EST]    SobelSaint           Ready

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so I’ll cover those … we can discuss them and then will open it up

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for Muddy and I

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:34 PM EST]    angelor All good

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and then that’s that and off to Christmas week we go 🙂

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and for those who didn’t know yet.. Friday is off

[Dec 19, 2010 8:01:55 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so 4 day trading day this week

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:08 PM EST]    Mushin Do we have a powerpoint this week?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we’ll do it as usual – I’ll cover the stuff sent in.. then if you have questions on topic feel free to ask and then we’ll open up

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:21 PM EST]    hottiemama       Good evening IL and all

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no powerpoint – wasn’t enough questions for one

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:41 PM EST]    Mushin k

[Dec 19, 2010 8:02:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Question: What are important aspects you consider before you swing an OTC long?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I changed the questions a lil bit sent in .. cuz originally it was “What 3 aspects do you look for etc etc”

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:26 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but no need to put a # to it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive main things are

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Does it have a history? For example just by looking at the chart many can see ALME or CRWG have had a prior history of programs. Just like the second from on NXTH or most recently with JBII

[Dec 19, 2010 8:03:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive ALME: http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/6456/alme.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:04:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive CRWG: http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7840/crwg1.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:04:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive JBII: http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8038/jbii.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:04:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive NXTH: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2930/nxth.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:04:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so the main thing is .. what’s the history of the stock?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:04:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive has it been promoted before?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive usually I… and many of you will remember prior promoted stocks as long as you are active

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for example… in 6 months when HHWW is sub .50 cents

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and it’s bottomed .. everyone in here will remember it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:33 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so much like if you were with us 6 months ago.. or 12 months

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive you’d rmeember how big ALME was

[Dec 19, 2010 8:05:55 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so as you can see ALME had the increased volume – it was on scan a few days prior to be finally swinging it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:01 PM EST]    InvestorsLive which usually tells me most of the volume is on the offer

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive ie: accumulation

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s what I look for

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so then I look at the prior tops.. prior resistance

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and what base its coming off

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if I’m happy with the risk vs. reward

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive in this case… $1.00 was solid bottom

[Dec 19, 2010 8:06:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and it was $1.15 all day in “inch mode” as we call it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:07:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive my risk being 15 cents I can go in whatever size I am comfortable with based on that risk

[Dec 19, 2010 8:07:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and thus considered it a swing suggestion

[Dec 19, 2010 8:07:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive now going back to CRWG

[Dec 19, 2010 8:07:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/7840/crwg1.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:07:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive same thing many of you remember it to start the year

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive was an awesome mover – usually once a mailer .. always a mailer .. means there’s $$ behind it .. whomever took it public.. whatever fund is behind it etc… they have deeper pockets than the guys that can only fork up $50k for hototc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:04 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and just want to liquidate

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the main thing I saw this time was (many of u remember last month we rode it up thru $1.00)

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive then it pulled back – this is the case with many

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive they clean it up .. filter out the sellers.. and then consolidate it .. and start it back up again

[Dec 19, 2010 8:08:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for me .. the risk here is $1.20 range

[Dec 19, 2010 8:09:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive $1.30 once it breaks and holds it’ll prob start to trend again – if it doesn’t.. forget it I’ll move on… but no sense to chase this one as I had mentioned .. always pulls back and it’s not a ‘breakout’

[Dec 19, 2010 8:09:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive mainly the type I try to swing while I’m trading to make profits on the side

[Dec 19, 2010 8:09:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive any questions on those 2 so far?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:09:51 PM EST]    stockmike           Nate, Do you have a list of previously promoted stocks ?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:09:55 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:09 PM EST]    InvestorsLive just build it up in ur memory like former runners

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:12 PM EST]    InvestorsLive same concept

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:14 PM EST]    hottiemama       great explanation…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or just pull up the charts

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive not very difficult

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive now like JBII I totally screwed up

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8038/jbii.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:44 PM EST]    SobelSaint           How risky are over nights?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:10:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive shoulda been all over that – many of you guys probably remember it from the original run and if not back in June we had played it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:11:02 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  how you deal with stocks like CPOW,when you alerted what factors we have to see because i missed it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:11:21 PM EST]    angelor do you look a these stocks when you receive an email, you have a websit you visit or scans??

[Dec 19, 2010 8:11:48 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I was going over the questions from people who sent in first I’ll open up for other questions after

[Dec 19, 2010 8:11:59 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the best way to drive home the point is

[Dec 19, 2010 8:12:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/2930/nxth.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:12:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive NXTH .. we all know this one but just look at the chart

[Dec 19, 2010 8:12:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive you can see the re-runs after that .. and even most recently off lows

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:02 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s the idea

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive most recently…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive TNGS

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:40 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we all know that one from 1.25 .. but lets say it crashes this week and we never see it again for 3-6 months

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the first day or 2 I see it on my scan

[Dec 19, 2010 8:13:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I’m more likely to long it for a swing because I know typically.. they have a program more than a day or 2

[Dec 19, 2010 8:14:12 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s ………. in a nutshell what I look for .. for the OTC pumpers

[Dec 19, 2010 8:14:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for SWING type plays

[Dec 19, 2010 8:14:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive in the PAST what types of programs have they had?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:14:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive are they 1 and dones….

[Dec 19, 2010 8:14:37 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or are they multi day

[Dec 19, 2010 8:15:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive any questions on the rest of that ? I’ll go to those other 2 questions and then back to the ones sent in after

[Dec 19, 2010 8:15:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive (Dec 19-20:11) ravichandratbv: how you deal with stocks like CPOW,when you alerted what factors we have to see because i missed it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:15:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive can u further explain that?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive here’s what attracted me to it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:18 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  I didn’t see any volume or anything like chart pattern,[revious run..

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive right…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive former zero volume runner

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like I had gone over last presentation with the “IPOish” types

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive perfect example

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so

[Dec 19, 2010 8:16:59 PM EST]    InvestorsLive beyond that .. which we covered last seminar

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:04 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the interesting thing was notice patterns

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:09 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Hototc put it out…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but he wasn’t compensated….

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive hmmmmmmm why?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive why would he put an alert out for free?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:27 PM EST]    InvestorsLive well guess who put a free alert out on GRYO too?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive notice the trends…..

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so he put it out I looked at it…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but it was .07 x .18

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive almost 300% spread

[Dec 19, 2010 8:17:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or 200%

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:08:06 AM EST] InvestorsLive CPOW its interesting hototc went out for free on it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:08:12 AM EST] InvestorsLive guess worth a watch

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:09:51 AM EST] InvestorsLive oh boy

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:09:58 AM EST] InvestorsLive CPOW man .. LAFC now AUTO WDCO and co..

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:10:04 AM EST] InvestorsLive don’t tell me its crazypenny lol

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:23 PM EST]    Mushin got a question when you are taking one

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive [Dec 16, 2010 11:13:13 AM EST] InvestorsLive sick vol [Dec 16, 2010 11:13:15 AM EST] InvestorsLive CPOW

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:40 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so … what attracted me to it?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive well .. all the market makers we’re used to seeing in these plays

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive on the inside bids and offers

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:55 PM EST]    SobelSaint           So why did he put it out for free?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:18:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the volume

[Dec 19, 2010 8:19:01 PM EST]    InvestorsLive etc etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:19:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Sobel – why do u think? … probably was given the tip to send to his members

[Dec 19, 2010 8:19:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s my assumption.. don’t u think?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:19:35 PM EST]    Mushin IL is the MMs in play behind the stock also a factor that you consider or that does not matter?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:19:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but anyway – same stuff same action we all saw on GRYO

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:04 PM EST]    InvestorsLive see that’s the part that I don’t like getting into a discussion about because then everyone starts over thinking Mushin

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and they see WDCO on a stock and then start making assumptions and over thinking

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and it just confuses them

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:37 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I’ll I’m saying is .. the whole thing volume + WDCO NOBL LAFC size of prints… the way they were trading it the way it went up.. shook etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the control

[Dec 19, 2010 8:20:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive all reminded of what we saw on GRYO and all the rest

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so ALL of that combined… yes .. that plays a factor for me

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:08 PM EST]    abulloch               for OTCs your scan settings are straight MA, is that right, IL?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:12 PM EST]    Mushin k. Thanks.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive straight MA?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive what’s that

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:23 PM EST]    abulloch               moving average

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I don’t scan for moving averages

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I just use the equity feed scan

[Dec 19, 2010 8:21:54 PM EST]    Tommy123          Question:When a stock hits your scan has the 30 trades you put in and all the criteria and 100K volume and the dollar volume you look at chart looks ready to go and then it doesnt go does that happen alot?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:22:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I look for 75+ trades and watch it first

[Dec 19, 2010 8:22:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I don’t typically buy during lull

[Dec 19, 2010 8:22:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I’d rather buy it higher at 3pm + into close

[Dec 19, 2010 8:22:36 PM EST]    InvestorsLive than buy in the middle of the day

[Dec 19, 2010 8:23:02 PM EST]    InvestorsLive (Dec 19-20:11) angelor: do you look a these stocks when you receive an email, you have a websit you visit or scans??

[Dec 19, 2010 8:23:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I subscribe to all of google past and present

[Dec 19, 2010 8:23:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and reivew what comes in

[Dec 19, 2010 8:23:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive as you should to gain an edge

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive in fact .. CPOW went out on Thursday night to a member who had joined recently to the same list I’m on but hasn’t hit that list for me yet

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:14 PM EST]    Tommy123          But usually once they are in your email isnt it too late since all the promoters and thier budies frontloaded?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so just proves they split the list all the time and it’s good to always resign up

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive diff emails etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Tommy – I don’t trade stocks without momentum

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive You’re just thinking of the stocks you used to get ‘tips’ on

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:43 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and ended up being the sheep

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I’m talking about stocks with momentum

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:49 PM EST]    angelor do you follow stockpromoter.com?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:50 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and trends

[Dec 19, 2010 8:24:53 PM EST]    Tommy123          Ur right!

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no agnelor – like I said I subscribe

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:13 PM EST]    angelor cool

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive U can have ur own stockpromoters.com in your email box

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive faster and better

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:29 PM EST]    angelor how?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:40 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I just said!

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive lol

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:46 PM EST]    InvestorsLive subscribe to all of google

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:47 PM EST]    InvestorsLive past and present

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive hot stocks

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive hot stocks to buy

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive pennystocks

[Dec 19, 2010 8:25:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive search all the keywords

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:00 PM EST]    angelor got it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:01 PM EST]    InvestorsLive subscribe subscribe subscribe

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:04 PM EST]    InvestorsLive monitor it and review

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive put it together

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if u can’t do it in your head.. do it on excel sheet

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive figure out who has flow.. who doesn’t .. etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive back to questions already sent in

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:33 PM EST]    InvestorsLive QUESTION: When do you go for “Swing OTC long” and when do you go for “OTC day trade” ?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:37 PM EST]    SobelSaint           how often do you search for new promoters? once a week

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:40 PM EST]    InvestorsLive When the chart supports it. Look at the ALME chart this past week

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:46 PM EST]    InvestorsLive You’ll see why I said $1.20 was going to speed it up on the swing suggestion at $1.15 http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/4056/alme1.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:26:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Most swing suggestions are coming off a base and with volume: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9995/ampw.png As you can see from the ones shown .. they are all similar set ups.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive kinda touches back to what I went over earlier tonight

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive with regards to ALME

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but you can see the “look” of the chart

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:33 PM EST]    InvestorsLive just compare similiarities

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive compare the volume

[Dec 19, 2010 8:27:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive AMPW etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:28:08 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Sobel – as often as you want… just look for new ads – they always are changing

[Dec 19, 2010 8:28:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive QUESTION: Can you give us a comprehensive life cycle of a typical pump and dump? I mean how it acts on Day1, Day2, Day3, Day4 etc after the 1st mailer was sent.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:28:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive No they are all different. Just pay attention to volume and price action. Like I always say.. subscribe to all of the pumpers and keep a note as to how they do. Focus how their plays go over time. Do they split their list? Who are the major players in the Level 2?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:28:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Ones we are used to seeing? (for example huge volume with WDCO market maker then NOBL and LAFC we’ve seen on GRYO and now CPOW lately. Same exact thing I said as soon as I alerted at .10. Do they change it up? Sometimes – but it’s all about paying attention to the volume and chart.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:28:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we kinda already covered it just what I prepared earlier

[Dec 19, 2010 8:29:02 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but

[Dec 19, 2010 8:29:08 PM EST]    InvestorsLive don’t get confused with mailer plays and emails

[Dec 19, 2010 8:29:09 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I view mailer plays and newsletter plays much different and I wouldn’t confuse the two. Mailer players are usually much slower and speed up at the end. At times they have a much longer life span, some fail though look at MSLP: http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/79/mslp.png

[Dec 19, 2010 8:29:14 PM EST]    InvestorsLive That’s why I monitor them and their action – as long as price action is good I hold and steadily lock in. Otherwise take it off. I also wait for them to appear on my scan.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:29:53 PM EST]    InvestorsLive QUESTION: Do you look at the volume or change in the volume in the last few days to decide that it is going to be dumped?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:30:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I look at it all, my biggest and only suggestion is always be on the lock in side. If it’s a new play typically they may last a bit longer. If it’s an old re-do play and there’s signs of weakness it may not last long at all. I wait for them to show up on my scan for a few days – most cases that means heavy accumulation on the offer. As far as decided that it’s going to get dumped – don’t be greedy lock in on a fast upside move if dips hold you can always buy back.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:30:50 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Any questions on what has been covered so far

[Dec 19, 2010 8:31:26 PM EST]    Tommy123          Im sorry im not understanding we are looking at these mailers for what?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:31:40 PM EST]    Tommy123          Meaning for pullbacks usually?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Just stating the mis used term

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive in the questions

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and not to confuse the 2

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive a mailer is not an email or newsletter pump

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive a mailer is a $500-1m-2m budget

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:42 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  as you said there is a list of pump and dump emailers/newsletters ..did you got any specific mailers or newsletters that influence the market previously ..I mean it helps us to subscribe them instead of redoing the analysis

[Dec 19, 2010 8:32:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and typically longer type of swing HHWW type

[Dec 19, 2010 8:33:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Like I’ve covered many times before the ones that are on the top of google advertising are the ones that put $$ into their list and continually making them better

[Dec 19, 2010 8:33:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive thus have the most ‘flow’ or impact

[Dec 19, 2010 8:33:45 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but it’s all about monitoring them

[Dec 19, 2010 8:33:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive they could have duds all in a row

[Dec 19, 2010 8:33:59 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or they could have 3 big wins.. so your likely to play the next

[Dec 19, 2010 8:34:03 PM EST]    InvestorsLive they are only as good as their last

[Dec 19, 2010 8:34:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive QUESTION: Wednesday of this week you called NENE as “a potentially good scoop right at open”. What were you seeing? Is it pre hits? Late pre hits? Pre vol? Number of trades in pre? Or does it have something to do with yesterday? Strong close? Weak close? Gaps up/down? What sorts of things indicate carryover momentum possibilities?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:34:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive NENE was just like JYHW

[Dec 19, 2010 8:34:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the beginning of this year

[Dec 19, 2010 8:34:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2010/01/27/the-17000-dolla-pay-day-jayhawk-energy-inc-jyhw-ob/

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive similiar volume similiar breakout day .. then fade fade fade

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive gap down… and then one final gap down .. and sell off

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s why I like those AM panics

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and I had predicted that to a T

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive BUT wanted the same thing for BLOAQ the next AM .. but didn’t get it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:35:46 PM EST]    InvestorsLive it’s just a trade I am comfortable with

[Dec 19, 2010 8:36:48 PM EST]    beachbum          i have a question how do you know the day a mailer starts

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:10 PM EST]    beachbum          usually i get the mailers 1 week or even more after the “official” start

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive well if the mailer is out electronically it goes on watch

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if its in my mailbox goes on watch

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but never a buy just because I get one

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive it’s all about momentum

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:37 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if it hits my scan.. if it starts to attract my attention

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:43 PM EST]    InvestorsLive has to prove itself first

[Dec 19, 2010 8:37:48 PM EST]    InvestorsLive until then.. no thx

[Dec 19, 2010 8:38:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive going back to the NENE question – got a question in PM – but also to answer the rest of those questions

[Dec 19, 2010 8:38:27 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no Pre hits doesn’t matter

[Dec 19, 2010 8:38:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I like the gap down.. just more panic

[Dec 19, 2010 8:38:37 PM EST]    Tommy123          I get it now get the mailer if it hits my scan with my criteia then i know it has momentum and could jump in?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:38:47 PM EST]    InvestorsLive gets more weak hands out and sometimes an overly agressive move to the downside

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive It has to do with the fact it was .15 cents down and then sold off even more

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive it was 1.48 but 2 days prior was 3.20 +

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive NENE has a legitimate market

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive vs. something that has much lower volume

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive it had been trading millions of shares for months now

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:37 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so it’s THOSE types that I am comfortable playing…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like WAMUQ tanks .. and all the ones like I went over last time with the presentation

[Dec 19, 2010 8:39:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive with major liquidity

[Dec 19, 2010 8:41:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Tommy – right.. you know it has potential and you know that there’s a mailer behind it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:41:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so .. maybe it fails like the example I gave

[Dec 19, 2010 8:41:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive MSLP

[Dec 19, 2010 8:41:26 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but that’s what it’s all about

[Dec 19, 2010 8:41:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if it continues to hold trend good .. if not .. forget it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Any other questions guys – for me or Muddy?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:22 PM EST]    stockmike           do you have separate scans to decide on “swing OTC” or “day trade OTC”s?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:36 PM EST]    InvestorsLive typically they are the inchers

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the slower types with charts as I showed earlier

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:44 PM EST]    Tommy123          But the problem is that most of the mailers promoted stocks start flying the minute they open or gap up so sometimes not even a chance to get them on the scan ithout chasing.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:42:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or ‘fresh’ IPO types

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Tommy I’m not talking about promoted stocks you get in your email from shitty pumpers

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I’m talking about stocks with momentum off scan

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s the part your not getting

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive threre is a difference between the stocks that have 10 minutes of strength from newsletter pumps

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or stocks that remain on my scan all day

[Dec 19, 2010 8:43:54 PM EST]    Tommy123          I am really not getting it then I thought we look to see these mailers? Sorry im just confused.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive We’re talking about 2 different things

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we were talking about mailers

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive not newsletter emails

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that point I made before

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive abotu the difference

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I subscribe to all newsletters to find out who has flow .. as I mentioned.. serious flow like pennypics and crazypenny types

[Dec 19, 2010 8:44:54 PM EST]    Tommy123          I get that but you were also talking about Hototc who is a promoter

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:01 PM EST]    InvestorsLive other ones I could care less about but still subscribe to monitor

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive right…

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:11 PM EST]    Tommy123          i see

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:14 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and I mentioned why with hototc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive he wasn’t compensated.. the relationship with GRYO last time etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s why .. nothing more

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:36 PM EST]    Tommy123          They all jump on the bandwagon

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no ..

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:44 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s not the point

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:48 PM EST]    InvestorsLive the point was .. he was first

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive not compensated

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive why….

[Dec 19, 2010 8:45:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive there was no volume

[Dec 19, 2010 8:46:08 PM EST]    InvestorsLive then there was huge volume

[Dec 19, 2010 8:46:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive same thing with GRYO

[Dec 19, 2010 8:46:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive it was a mid day alert … that’s the relationship I’m talking about (review what I said earlier when I post logs.. you’ll see)

[Dec 19, 2010 8:46:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive any others – questions?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:46:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Question: How do you manage all your watches? I know you only look at 6 charts at a time don’t you miss some, how do you prioritize and take notice of what is moving on your watch list? Do you shuffle through them? I have a hard time managing what I should be watching as some moves are slow and take time to pan out. Any advice you can give on developing a system?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I have 2 main ones and the rest I scroll thru

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive stocks that are moving

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and keep reviewing every 5-10 minutes thru the day of ones I put on watch

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive to see if they are picking up any momentum … if anything has changed.. if they’ve pulled

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:47:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I have my streaming filter from equityfeed as well as you know

[Dec 19, 2010 8:48:01 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so that helps a lot

[Dec 19, 2010 8:48:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I have it listed by last time and sale

[Dec 19, 2010 8:48:11 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so I can see which ones are hanging out at the top

[Dec 19, 2010 8:48:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive ie: trading the most at any given time

[Dec 19, 2010 8:48:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive yes shuffling through them is the word on what I do

[Dec 19, 2010 8:49:04 PM EST]    Tommy123          I read in the past seminars and you said it today u dont use moving averages just volume and support/resistance do you use the cancdlestick technican anylasis like engulfing candle etc?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:49:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I went over it last seminar in the presentation – candle stick charts.. volume 1 min charts

[Dec 19, 2010 8:49:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I have a pic of what I use

[Dec 19, 2010 8:49:49 PM EST]    InvestorsLive any other questions regarding if I use this.. or that.. the answer is no

[Dec 19, 2010 8:50:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I use: 1 min chart + volume + candlesticks

[Dec 19, 2010 8:50:03 PM EST]    Tommy123          gotcha

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive touchdownnnn Pats

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive by my buddy I met this weekend ha

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:30 PM EST]    jout8     boo Pats booooo

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:33 PM EST]    hottiemama       i am actually watching the game 🙂

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:34 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     Who?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:51:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Benjarvus Green Ellis

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:10 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     You hung out with the Law Firm? Rolling big, are we?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no .. just random

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:22 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     lol, I know

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:32 PM EST]    hottiemama       green ellis is fantastic

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive plaed blackjack from 2am to 4:30am with Kevin Youkilis

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive played*

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:44 PM EST]    InvestorsLive was best time ha

[Dec 19, 2010 8:52:58 PM EST]    Laura Eagles had a great day too!

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:03 PM EST]    xlr8r       What exactly do you meam when yo say ” bit more”?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive exactly that… bit more on the 1 min

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive either another HOD

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive another inch higher

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive sideways…. and then nHOD… sidewaaaaaaaaaaaays long time… bit more

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:37 PM EST]    InvestorsLive another penny..

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive another 2 penny etc

[Dec 19, 2010 8:53:50 PM EST]    xlr8r       cool

[Dec 19, 2010 8:54:14 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  when you will know to sell the pumper stock -I mean intraday like if a stock loses 10% on same day its better to sell ?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:54:15 PM EST]    Tommy123          how do you get your nightly scans that you list(im sure u covered this in past seminars didnt have time to go over all)?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:54:24 PM EST]    hottiemama       touchdown by green ellis 🙂

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:02 PM EST]    InvestorsLive ravi – when it breaks trend

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:11 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I usually don’t hold stocks if they lose their momo

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:33 PM EST]    greg       Eagles glad i turned the game back on

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive link is here Tommy: http://www.investorsunderground.com/stock-fetcher-scans/

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:45 PM EST]    Tommy123          thanks

[Dec 19, 2010 8:55:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive any other questions guys?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:56:01 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  I mean any technical things like it had two red candles or some thing like that ?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:56:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive 2 red candles on 1 min?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:56:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I trade stocks with volume….

[Dec 19, 2010 8:56:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so I don’t really think makes that big of a diff

[Dec 19, 2010 8:56:42 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  oh ok got it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:57:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2010/12/19/scans-for-122010-from-InvestorsLive/

[Dec 19, 2010 8:57:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive scan for tomorrow

[Dec 19, 2010 8:58:44 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  I know you may answered this question before but I want to open one account (as i think because i had only 15k) which one you suggest speed trader ? or any thing which is good for both up’s and down’s in penny stocks.

[Dec 19, 2010 8:58:53 PM EST]    jout8     Pac is beat up bad I live a block away from the stadium

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Speed is great all around

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive IB is great for borrows

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:48 PM EST]    jout8     what do you think of Zecco for buying?

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive lol

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:59 PM EST]    InvestorsLive dunno never used it

[Dec 19, 2010 8:59:59 PM EST]    Laura I’d suggest 2 accts tho with 15k so you have more daytrades

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:19 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  does speed doesn’t have good borrows on shorting stocks ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:20 PM EST]    Tommy123          or just open a prop acct

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:30 PM EST]    InvestorsLive they have good borrows yes.. you can request them as well

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive at Speed

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but IB is 2nd to none

[Dec 19, 2010 9:00:43 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for borrows

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:06 PM EST]    Laura on Naz

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:07 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  oh gotcha

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:19 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and best chance these days for OTCs

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive at IB

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:27 PM EST]    InvestorsLive $1+ even some sub .50

[Dec 19, 2010 9:01:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but everywhere else dried up

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:22 PM EST]    Trader7595         does WTC have borrows of low price under 2?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:24 PM EST]    xlr8r       During market hours do you rely on equityfeed only for your scans or do you use stockhouse as well?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I believe so Trader they have good inventory according to members with them

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:50 PM EST]    InvestorsLive EquityFeed is for OTCs

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:50 PM EST]    Trader7595         broad street os garbage now

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:54 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and I use HOD/LOD list intraday

[Dec 19, 2010 9:02:55 PM EST]    Trader7595         is

[Dec 19, 2010 9:03:10 PM EST]    SobelSaint           Is capital traders group good?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:03:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no idea

[Dec 19, 2010 9:03:21 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  I m sorry if miss some thing , if i want to good shorting – IB is better ,If i want good up’s may be missing some thing in down’s – speed is better ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:03:35 PM EST]    InvestorsLive IB is 2nd to none for shorting

[Dec 19, 2010 9:03:45 PM EST]    Tommy123          can you tell me when a stock hits HOD or LOD what do you watch fo before you jump in?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:11 PM EST]    InvestorsLive HOD and LOD is just a scanner

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we watch for it to set up like I cover

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like PIP on my 1st presentation

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive gearing/perking etc

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:39 PM EST]    Tommy123          I better get back to the old seminars

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:56 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  lol 150 $ per month with board st looks better than any other one

[Dec 19, 2010 9:04:56 PM EST]    jout8     another drop… boooo

[Dec 19, 2010 9:05:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive $150 is for the platform fee

[Dec 19, 2010 9:05:28 PM EST]    Tommy123          i use lightspeed very good

[Dec 19, 2010 9:06:18 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  than per trade,do you have any pricing details on that ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:06:29 PM EST]    Tommy123          $100 for DAS platform 4.95 per trade

[Dec 19, 2010 9:06:29 PM EST]    InvestorsLive 6.95

[Dec 19, 2010 9:06:33 PM EST]    xlr8r       I assume you mostly look for tickers that you recognize too scroll by on the hi/lo scan.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:06:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive right xlr8r

[Dec 19, 2010 9:07:32 PM EST]    xlr8r       that’l ltake some time.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:08:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive just become familiar with the charts on scan each night

[Dec 19, 2010 9:08:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Muddy and myself

[Dec 19, 2010 9:08:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive cuts time down 10 fold

[Dec 19, 2010 9:08:38 PM EST]    xlr8r       I will. Thanks

[Dec 19, 2010 9:09:17 PM EST]    Tommy123          So after you give the symbols at night we look at charts and study them. Do you find yourself playing these symbols during the day the ones that you gave at night most of the times?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:09:48 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s whats on watch right out of the gate

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:00 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if I find something better than I’ll go there

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive but at least your prepared for the move

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive whether its tomorrow Tuesday or Wednesday

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive scanning and being ready for it makes me that much quicker

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:25 PM EST]    Laura regarding high of day list………when I first started trading with Muddy online I knew nothing, no tickers

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:36 PM EST]    jout8     beautiful

[Dec 19, 2010 9:10:45 PM EST]    Laura six years later, I know thousands of former runners

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:11 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if I know I wanted to short as soon as it red tomorrow .. and it never happened

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:15 PM EST]    InvestorsLive then Tuesday Laura says LOD

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and not on my immediate scan

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:24 PM EST]    xlr8r       I have a watch list set up in TOS that I add your tickers to everyday now.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I can be that much quicker without looking

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:28 PM EST]    Trader7595         but when you see a stock hit hod first first time what do you do? and what about when it hits the 10th time

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:31 PM EST]    InvestorsLive cuz I already saw the chart today

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:46 PM EST]    InvestorsLive depends what the chart looks like Trader

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:51 PM EST]    jout8     It’s alwasy good to have a “plan” I swear it’s a psychological thing

[Dec 19, 2010 9:11:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Does it fit one of the 3 set ups I went over?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:02 PM EST]    InvestorsLive if not .. then wait for it

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:12 PM EST]    InvestorsLive just because it hits HOD doesn’t mean you have to trade it

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive we’re looking for stocks we are familiar with .. with a high average daily range

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:24 PM EST]    marketmaker1177           good point!!

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:28 PM EST]    Laura funny too, when bmon starts typing 95% of time I know the ticker before he does it

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive lol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:40 PM EST]    InvestorsLive yup

[Dec 19, 2010 9:12:51 PM EST]    Relaax   indeed

[Dec 19, 2010 9:13:01 PM EST]    Laura I used to play that game with some old mods before IL

[Dec 19, 2010 9:13:14 PM EST]    Laura I’d type as fast as i could to beat them 🙂

[Dec 19, 2010 9:13:31 PM EST]    Laura alas, bmon half my age now, he’s quicker

[Dec 19, 2010 9:14:21 PM EST]    Tommy123          Its amazing that your startegy is so simple no MA,no candlesticks TA and it works so well.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:14:46 PM EST]    Relaax   it’s what pure trading is about, price/volume/action

[Dec 19, 2010 9:14:51 PM EST]    Laura lol, Mudd doesn’t even use charts during day

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:02 PM EST]    Laura yup Relaax

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:04 PM EST]    Laura that’s it

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:12 PM EST]    angelor now that’s crazy

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:20 PM EST]    xlr8r       that blows my mind

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:20 PM EST]    Laura not really

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:23 PM EST]    angelor no charts!!!

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:38 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I use charts…. so does Mud .. just not intraday for him

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:39 PM EST]    Laura charts just a picture of price/vol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:15:53 PM EST]    Laura yes, he uses at night for his scan

[Dec 19, 2010 9:16:03 PM EST]    Laura I use intraday

[Dec 19, 2010 9:16:11 PM EST]    angelor you have to be good!!!

[Dec 19, 2010 9:16:30 PM EST]    Tommy123          Now bottom plays IL as everyone testfies you are the KING of bottom plays how do you do it what is the strategy?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:16:58 PM EST]    Tommy123          How do u knw it will go back up and not just die down there?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:17:14 PM EST]    InvestorsLive Tommy last seminar was dedicated to bottom bounces

[Dec 19, 2010 9:17:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive start there

[Dec 19, 2010 9:17:55 PM EST]    Tommy123          At least im asking good questions not the dumb ones I used to ask you have to agree?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:15 PM EST]    Laura Tommy’s back, lol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:23 PM EST]    Tommy123          Laura do u agree?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:28 PM EST]    Laura sure

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:36 PM EST]    Laura where ya been anyways

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:49 PM EST]    xlr8r       I was going to ask you about the recent IPO’s, is that also in the last seminar?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:18:55 PM EST]    Tommy123          Busy with Real estate

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:07 PM EST]    Laura cool

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:10 PM EST]    Tommy123          and studying charts

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive recent IPOs – as in Nasdaq ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or OTCs?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:37 PM EST]    xlr8r       GAPTQ

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:40 PM EST]    Laura if real IPOs I got links

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:47 PM EST]    InvestorsLive GAPTQ isn’t an IPO

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:50 PM EST]    Laura no

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:51 PM EST]    InvestorsLive GAPTQ was GAP

[Dec 19, 2010 9:19:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive bankrupt now

[Dec 19, 2010 9:20:23 PM EST]    Laura 5 letters ending in Q=bankrupt

[Dec 19, 2010 9:21:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive GAPTQ will be a great play at .05 maybe lol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:21:23 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like BLOAQ

[Dec 19, 2010 9:21:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive in 3-6 months

[Dec 19, 2010 9:21:29 PM EST]    xlr8r       OK, I feel dumb. But my chart only shows it back to Dec 14 .

[Dec 19, 2010 9:21:33 PM EST]    xlr8r       Oh I see

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:15 PM EST]    Miltona                First time Caller, Long time listener… When should I buy and sell a stock, IL? And how much $ should I use? And can you text me and tell me when to do these things? Thanks a bunch.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:47 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     You didn’t say love your show

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:53 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     No soup for you

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:55 PM EST]    InvestorsLive lol Milt

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:56 PM EST]    Relaax   lol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:22:57 PM EST]    Miltona                hahahahaha

[Dec 19, 2010 9:24:48 PM EST]    beachbum          lol

[Dec 19, 2010 9:25:13 PM EST]    Tommy123          Milt no PMS when to buy sell i asked that question a year ago.

[Dec 19, 2010 9:25:34 PM EST]    Miltona                just a joke, tommy 🙂

[Dec 19, 2010 9:25:40 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     You lie, you pay more

[Dec 19, 2010 9:25:44 PM EST]    Will_The_Kid     VIP access

[Dec 19, 2010 9:26:18 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  IL you said is nice if the stock is mailer pump and going up inch by inch you hold for a swing but what about stocks that are not following this pattern? do you hold on stocks like closing up with volume or any technical things you follow ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:28:18 PM EST]    InvestorsLive then I trade them

[Dec 19, 2010 9:28:21 PM EST]    InvestorsLive prob not as much siz

[Dec 19, 2010 9:28:22 PM EST]    InvestorsLive size

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:07 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  what other things you follow if it pump in the afternoon ? or other things ,as of my knowledge only these two

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:15 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  i know

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:39 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I just watch 9:30-11

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:41 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and 2-4

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:48 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for incher types

[Dec 19, 2010 9:29:58 PM EST]    InvestorsLive otherwise just watch for momentum type.. ones with range intraday

[Dec 19, 2010 9:30:05 PM EST]    InvestorsLive most of the mailer types don’t really have ‘range’

[Dec 19, 2010 9:30:12 PM EST]    InvestorsLive they just are sneaking up like the ones currently swinging

[Dec 19, 2010 9:30:16 PM EST]    InvestorsLive and those we were swinging last week

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:10 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  what technical things you see for gap up on nasdaq/otcbb/nyse ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:18 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  or gap down

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:24 PM EST]    InvestorsLive ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:27 PM EST]    InvestorsLive can u explain

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:58 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I like gap downs one ones like NENE

[Dec 19, 2010 9:32:59 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  like i thought of gap up for some stocks recently in nasdaq

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:03 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  but failed

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:04 PM EST]    InvestorsLive for the panic and base and reversal

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:10 PM EST]    InvestorsLive oh

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:14 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like that one umm BSDM u were in?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:20 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  yes

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:25 PM EST]    InvestorsLive same thing I always say.. Nasdaq is gap up if Futures gap up

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:28 PM EST]    InvestorsLive or gap down if futures gap down

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:36 PM EST]    InvestorsLive so .. that’s why you don’t see me “gap” Nasdaqs

[Dec 19, 2010 9:33:42 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I only gap OTCs in my strategy

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:15 PM EST]    hobs05 I missed the first part tonight. What is a rough time frame when talking about swing plays? Week? Two weeks? Momentum based?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:33 PM EST]    InvestorsLive no time frame

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:34 PM EST]    InvestorsLive more than a day

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:37 PM EST]    Laura yeah, hold naz overnight if you caught a trend, but not cuz expecting a gap

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:40 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  one question i m new to otcbb stocks..if i see a stock i m worried to keep 5k or 10 k in that stock even though its perfect break up/down

[Dec 19, 2010 9:34:52 PM EST]    hobs05 ty

[Dec 19, 2010 9:35:01 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  dont know how to get rid of that

[Dec 19, 2010 9:35:07 PM EST]    MilesJStoner      good point Laura

[Dec 19, 2010 9:35:20 PM EST]    InvestorsLive not sure ravi what the question is

[Dec 19, 2010 9:35:35 PM EST]    Laura if new to otcbb stocks, you shouldn’t be in that large

[Dec 19, 2010 9:35:53 PM EST]    Laura ty Miles

[Dec 19, 2010 9:36:22 PM EST]    ravichandratbv  like how much amount you spare on otcbb stocks,nasdaq stock pump and dump for each trade ?

[Dec 19, 2010 9:36:32 PM EST]    InvestorsLive that’s up to you

[Dec 19, 2010 9:36:52 PM EST]    InvestorsLive I don’t really comment on that … whatever your downside risk is that your comfortable with

[Dec 19, 2010 9:36:56 PM EST]    InvestorsLive with pumpers

[Dec 19, 2010 9:36:57 PM EST]    InvestorsLive risk is 50%

[Dec 19, 2010 9:37:06 PM EST]    InvestorsLive with stocks with a market

[Dec 19, 2010 9:37:07 PM EST]    InvestorsLive like ALME

[Dec 19, 2010 9:37:13 PM EST]    InvestorsLive risk was $1 from 1.15 entry

[Dec 19, 2010 9:37:17 PM EST]   InvestorsLive .15 cents

[Dec 19, 2010 9:37:17 PM EST]    InvestorsLive etc

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