[Sun Apr 12 17:00:30 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Good evening everyone, as I said before I expect a light crew based on the e-mails and also didn’t receive very many questions from you guys.. so I will go over the few I have and open it up
[Sun Apr 12 17:00:46 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Muddy and L aren’t going to be here tonight, so Tort and I will field questions
[Sun Apr 12 17:01:09 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Question: Hi IL, I have one important question that hope you’ll answer in the next Seminor : What is the maximum money should we put in a penny stock that won’t affect the price of the stock ? and how to avoid illiquid stock ? (like I bought a lot of share then when I sale it nobody seem want to buy it )
[Sun Apr 12 17:01:56 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive We don’t play stocks that one trade is going to “effect” it
[Sun Apr 12 17:02:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive that’s called low float and momentumless
[Sun Apr 12 17:02:31 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive As we’ve said in previous seminars – Muddy does about $3,000 per trade
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:03 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive If you have an account between $3000-10,000 .. $1500-2000 minimum is probably a comfortable amt
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:17 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive since a 10% move would yield $150-200 bucks
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I tend to think/trade based on share amts
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:32 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and don’t really look at the $ aspect
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive for example
[Sun Apr 12 17:03:48 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if I am going for a .10 to .20 cent move I’ll probably play 1,000 shares
[Sun Apr 12 17:04:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if I am looking for .20 to .50/share I’m prob expecting to stay in the trade longer
[Sun Apr 12 17:04:11 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and will use about 500 shares
[Sun Apr 12 17:04:21 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I change my size based on how the stock is moving on any given day
[Sun Apr 12 17:04:44 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if its extremely volatile I’m not going to go in 1k+ shares if its swinging .40 to .60 cents
[Sun Apr 12 17:05:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Regarding avoiding the illiquid stocks..
[Sun Apr 12 17:05:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive We don’t trade them, so you don’t need to worry about it
[Sun Apr 12 17:05:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive we Trade based on momentum
[Sun Apr 12 17:06:40 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if the stock moves in the right direction and I think its going to have legs
[Sun Apr 12 17:07:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive i normally take off 1/2 since I’m starting to think it may move into the larger range
[Sun Apr 12 17:07:08 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive .20 – +.40 or more
[Sun Apr 12 17:07:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive a few from Thursday
[Sun Apr 12 17:07:56 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and Weds
[Sun Apr 12 17:08:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive KIM HLX UCBH VIP TCK etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:08:28 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive i figure it’s probably easiest to look at some of these entries/exits
[Sun Apr 12 17:08:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://i40.tinypic.com/scrsyb.jpg
[Sun Apr 12 17:09:19 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Once you go over these chart patterns many times you’ll start to see it in your own head during the day
[Sun Apr 12 17:09:38 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’ve received a lot of PMs of people starting to get it and seeing the “launching pad” and/or consolidation and then rip to nHODs
[Sun Apr 12 17:09:54 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so in the newsletter you saw me highlight KIM
[Sun Apr 12 17:10:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I also went over these set ups in Seminar 6
[Sun Apr 12 17:10:18 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but some recent examples
[Sun Apr 12 17:10:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive at 1:30ish you see it hits a new high
[Sun Apr 12 17:10:41 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and right before 3 it test it again
[Sun Apr 12 17:10:57 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive take a look at SPY intrday
[Sun Apr 12 17:11:01 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive which I always watch as well
[Sun Apr 12 17:11:02 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=spy&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=9864&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=714&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:11:42 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if KIM was heading up and hit a double top and SPY wasn’t bullish or was tanking intraday
[Sun Apr 12 17:11:49 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I woulkd have not entered it and rather stalk for the short
[Sun Apr 12 17:12:08 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive HLX
[Sun Apr 12 17:12:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=hlx&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=2234673&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=3342&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:12:42 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive [9:45:40 AM] InvestorsLive says: took a small s/s to start on HLX
[Sun Apr 12 17:13:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive stock had soared from Weds and into Thrus
[Sun Apr 12 17:13:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive purely a momentum trade, the stock had been up nearly $3 dollars
[Sun Apr 12 17:13:40 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive notice I took a small s/s
[Sun Apr 12 17:14:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive gives me a leeway to be wrong before adding to a full size position
[Sun Apr 12 17:14:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive once it’s confirmed and breaks under and tops out a few times
[Sun Apr 12 17:14:31 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I think it was 8.75 or 8.70 i was looking for
[Sun Apr 12 17:14:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive then I added
[Sun Apr 12 17:14:46 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive [11:01:29 AM] InvestorsLive says: covered 1/2 HLX 8.12
[Sun Apr 12 17:15:21 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I usually like to sell into spikes or cover into big drops, this is a perfect example
[Sun Apr 12 17:15:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive altho I wish I did cover all of it, I kept a little bit just incase it wasnted to test $8
[Sun Apr 12 17:15:55 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and put 8.25-8.30 as a stop
[Sun Apr 12 17:16:31 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive VIP TCK I’ve been trading a lot of the past few weeks
[Sun Apr 12 17:17:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive You start to learn a lot about how they trade
[Sun Apr 12 17:17:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive [3:52:29 PM] InvestorsLive says: TCK if it closes strong usually good for .10-.20 AH’s
[Sun Apr 12 17:17:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive same thing if it closes weak, usually good for another .10 to .20 cents on the downside after hours
[Sun Apr 12 17:17:39 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I really like trading TCK with the market, follows it very nicely
[Sun Apr 12 17:17:55 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive BUT what you need to notice, is when its strong vs. the SPY
[Sun Apr 12 17:18:03 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if the SPY is dropping and its consolidating
[Sun Apr 12 17:18:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive theres a good chance on the next bounce/spike on the SPY, that TCK will move twice as fast
[Sun Apr 12 17:18:41 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive this has been a great trade near dollar marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:18:57 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive UCBH
[Sun Apr 12 17:19:09 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive thahound or tekkneak i forget who Thurs
[Sun Apr 12 17:19:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive was trading as well…
[Sun Apr 12 17:19:18 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=ucbh&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=118532&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=8282&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:20:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive this is why we play near dollar marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:20:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive or I do most often, .50 and 1.00 marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:20:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive moves start to accerlate around them
[Sun Apr 12 17:20:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive do u guys have any questions about the charts so far?
[Sun Apr 12 17:21:20 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive or any that you had questions about
[Sun Apr 12 17:21:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive symbols etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:21:41 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive like I said I didnt receive very many questions so.. more of a “at ur request” tonight until there aren’t anymore
[Sun Apr 12 17:22:06 EDT 2009] schistyakov when you soid you went small on HLX intially, how many shares did you short? thinking of giving it more room
[Sun Apr 12 17:22:16 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 r u watching TICK and TRIN as well the same way as SPY
[Sun Apr 12 17:22:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 500 schistyakov
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:03 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I watch SPY that’s all avoigt
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 1 minute chart
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:08 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive candlestick
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:16 EDT 2009] schistyakov and at what level did you add more to it? when it came back down to 8.75 or at some other level?
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:19 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive volume indicators as well
[Sun Apr 12 17:23:28 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive when it broke under 8.70 and held
[Sun Apr 12 17:24:08 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive RT the short..
[Sun Apr 12 17:24:11 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive another good example
[Sun Apr 12 17:24:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=rt&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=3229&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=440&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:25:01 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive [12:47:36 PM] InvestorsLive says: i shorted some RT 1/2 size for now will add on confirmation under 6.70
[Sun Apr 12 17:25:20 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if you look at chart
[Sun Apr 12 17:25:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive that I posted
[Sun Apr 12 17:25:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive you can see where it was hovering around $6.70
[Sun Apr 12 17:25:48 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive basically inverse of what I look for on hte breakout
[Sun Apr 12 17:26:28 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive going in smaller size due to the volatility
[Sun Apr 12 17:26:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive then the cover…
[Sun Apr 12 17:26:44 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive see how it started to hover around 6.40
[Sun Apr 12 17:27:09 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive [2:29:36 PM] InvestorsLive says: covering some on RT will ride out small til EOD possible o/n
[Sun Apr 12 17:27:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive sure it dropped a little bit more after that
[Sun Apr 12 17:27:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but as soon as it broke under the resistance I figured we’d have a rush
[Sun Apr 12 17:27:47 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive of sellers since it broke under the ‘support’
[Sun Apr 12 17:27:54 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so I take advantage of that rush
[Sun Apr 12 17:28:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if you go back another day
[Sun Apr 12 17:28:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=rt&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=3229&style=340&time=2&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=1731&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:28:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 2 day chart there
[Sun Apr 12 17:28:45 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive was a little early that day but it started to form support at $6.10
[Sun Apr 12 17:29:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so later in the day we did get the fade, and I covered into the rush I forget I think 5.91
[Sun Apr 12 17:29:20 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive got a few PMs “why cover there etc”
[Sun Apr 12 17:29:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive same reasoning, taking advatnage of the rush
[Sun Apr 12 17:29:43 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive under the even dollar marks and/or support
[Sun Apr 12 17:30:57 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive “how can you know if it’s not a fake support break?”
[Sun Apr 12 17:31:08 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive well for those re-reading this later
[Sun Apr 12 17:31:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive QUESTION: how can you know if it’s not a fake support break?
[Sun Apr 12 17:31:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive This doesn’t have to do with fake support/level 2 action etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:31:47 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but this is why I take profits under or near htem
[Sun Apr 12 17:32:14 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive most times if I go the right direction (lets say on a short)
[Sun Apr 12 17:32:25 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and its been a steady walk down without any bounce attempts
[Sun Apr 12 17:32:30 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive for example HLX Thurs
[Sun Apr 12 17:32:41 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive $8 would have been my primary target
[Sun Apr 12 17:32:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive as the next “even dollar mark” of interest
[Sun Apr 12 17:33:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive normally 8.25….. 8.50…. 8.75 may give some resistance/support points
[Sun Apr 12 17:33:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but the ‘free fall’ on HLX slowed a bit
[Sun Apr 12 17:33:31 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive the vol slowed
[Sun Apr 12 17:33:54 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and started to base for a few min, so I lock it in
[Sun Apr 12 17:34:11 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive then you can see on the 1 min volume returns at_14:05AM
[Sun Apr 12 17:34:17 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and rips right back up
[Sun Apr 12 17:34:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Part 2 of that question
[Sun Apr 12 17:34:43 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive “Sometime it break the support or resistance and reverse .. that make me lose the most”
[Sun Apr 12 17:34:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive that’s why I look for the volumne/momentum and even dollar marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:02 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and cover near them or before them
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive on the short or
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive sell on the pop/quick squeeze over them
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:44 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive because I’ve noticed out of the full dollar range that’s where the most volatility/volume occurs
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive more often than not
[Sun Apr 12 17:35:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and again… all decisions for me
[Sun Apr 12 17:36:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive are influenced by watching SPY as well
[Sun Apr 12 17:36:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if SPY bounces big off the bottom and starts moving hard towards previous highs
[Sun Apr 12 17:36:51 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’m not going to short a stock that is starting to fade as it very well may hold higher highs and create a nHOD
[Sun Apr 12 17:37:17 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive any other questions/charts/tickers etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:37:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive you have questions on or wondering about?
[Sun Apr 12 17:37:55 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive once one question is listed… just wait til I finish and ask the next etc 🙂
[Sun Apr 12 17:38:29 EDT 2009] wascold so let me get this straight, if you are long a stock on its way to say $8,you would sell on the quick pop over 8 or just before?
[Sun Apr 12 17:38:56 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if it’s consolidating around $8… and seems to be getting a big toppy
[Sun Apr 12 17:39:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I will more than likely sell 1/2
[Sun Apr 12 17:39:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if its moving steady thru $8
[Sun Apr 12 17:39:18 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I will sell the pop over it
[Sun Apr 12 17:40:00 EDT 2009] wascold Steadily on the 1 minute
[Sun Apr 12 17:40:14 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive heres a good example of steady mover
[Sun Apr 12 17:40:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=ucbh&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=118532&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=8200&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:40:41 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive no reason to lock it in pre-test of $2
[Sun Apr 12 17:40:47 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’d rather sell some of the pop over it
[Sun Apr 12 17:41:14 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive VIP I didn’t trade much after the initial moe but
[Sun Apr 12 17:41:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/charts/big.chart?symb=vip&compidx=aaaaa%3A0&ma=0&maval=9&uf=0&lf=1&lf2=0&lf3=0&type=4&size=2&state=8&sid=18100&style=340&time=1&freq=9&comp=NO%5FSYMBOL%5FCHOSEN&nosettings=1&rand=4020&mocktick=1
[Sun Apr 12 17:41:25 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive VIP headed up off momentum
[Sun Apr 12 17:41:31 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 9.99 was top
[Sun Apr 12 17:41:42 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but you see the diff between the two moves?
[Sun Apr 12 17:42:21 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive even if that broke thru $10 on the first move I would’ve lightened up some
[Sun Apr 12 17:43:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive QUESTION “I am getting a sense of how this is working. One questions is when I see the morning alerts , there are many, how do I pick which one to go with?”
[Sun Apr 12 17:43:52 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive normally if I place a trade the first 15 minutes it’s off a big move
[Sun Apr 12 17:43:54 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive like HLX
[Sun Apr 12 17:44:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive something that’s just jumped out of open, was on my scan… comfortable with doing the early trade
[Sun Apr 12 17:44:26 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive other times I take those “lots of tickers” and watch them until i see a trend I’m comfortable with
[Sun Apr 12 17:44:39 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and then you’ll start to see the same/fewer alerts from me
[Sun Apr 12 17:44:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but more consolidated on specific tickers
[Sun Apr 12 17:45:04 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive when I’m either looking for the break, or the fade
[Sun Apr 12 17:45:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive because I’ve been watching 7-8 of them
[Sun Apr 12 17:46:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive + the market
[Sun Apr 12 17:46:30 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive a lot of times you’ll see me mention when i think we are in for a dip on the SPY
[Sun Apr 12 17:46:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive or about to breakout
[Sun Apr 12 17:46:45 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and at that time the stocks I’m monitoring
[Sun Apr 12 17:46:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I’ll make the trade in whatever direction
[Sun Apr 12 17:47:33 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 how do you c if a stock is gaining/loosing momentum?
[Sun Apr 12 17:47:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive volume/price action
[Sun Apr 12 17:47:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive how it reacts when it test even dollar marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:48:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive or half dollar marks
[Sun Apr 12 17:48:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive whether or not it broke to higher highs or starting to roll over
[Sun Apr 12 17:49:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I watch the stocks that are steady gainers thru the morning
[Sun Apr 12 17:49:14 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive knockin HOD after HOD
[Sun Apr 12 17:49:25 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and watch for them to start to trade sideways
[Sun Apr 12 17:49:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so for example
[Sun Apr 12 17:49:54 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if ABC is hitting nHOD 9:45-10:30-11AM
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive goes from 7.50 to 9 dollars
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive starts to consolidate around 8.80ish
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and then starts going over/under
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:30 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8.75-8.85
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8.70-8.80
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:42 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8.75-8.81
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8.70-8.79
[Sun Apr 12 17:50:51 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:07 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I look for it to break under that consolidated area
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so 8.80 would be my point of interest
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive it was a big runner in AM.. so there may/should be profit takers
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if 8.80 stops holding as its support
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and you start to notice its having a tougher time taking out more highs
[Sun Apr 12 17:51:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and sellers now stop it at 8.79
[Sun Apr 12 17:52:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8.78 etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:52:14 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I can enter and I know where my stop loss is
[Sun Apr 12 17:52:21 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive not just guessing at a HOD
[Sun Apr 12 17:52:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive You can get a feel for the range at that point
[Sun Apr 12 17:53:21 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 is it possible to daytrade with only one screen?
[Sun Apr 12 17:53:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Its possible yes
[Sun Apr 12 17:53:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but once u go up you can’t downsize ha
[Sun Apr 12 17:54:04 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive you get used to it
[Sun Apr 12 17:54:27 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Muddy doesnt even use charts except from night before etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:54:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so really depends on ur style
[Sun Apr 12 17:54:38 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I like to have it all out there
[Sun Apr 12 17:54:59 EDT 2009] pjt6970 he never uses a chart?
[Sun Apr 12 17:55:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive yes he uses them
[Sun Apr 12 17:55:36 EDT 2009] pjt6970 so he is just relying on hod list from scottrade for those intra day ones?!
[Sun Apr 12 17:55:38 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive i wouldn’t say never
[Sun Apr 12 17:55:43 EDT 2009] pjt6970 oh ok
[Sun Apr 12 17:55:49 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but he doesn’t use it in the same way I do or to base a trade off
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:03 EDT 2009] pjt6970 gonna say…%%%% rain man
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:04 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive he doesn’t use them in a sense that you think a trader would use a chart
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive he uses them night before to review get a feel for what he’s looking at
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive so if he sees it the next day
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive off scan
[Sun Apr 12 17:56:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive he’s prepared
[Sun Apr 12 17:58:27 EDT 2009] John doh Is this still the seminar
[Sun Apr 12 17:58:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Didn’t receive very many e-mails John’s so I have been going over charts from last week etc
[Sun Apr 12 17:59:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and its open, so if oyu have questions
[Sun Apr 12 17:59:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive feel free
[Sun Apr 12 17:59:43 EDT 2009] John doh I’m good…
[Sun Apr 12 18:02:17 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive any other questions/charts guys?
[Sun Apr 12 18:02:35 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 whats the difference btween the different pre screens like darkside watchers and rfr loosers? n how use them[long/short]
[Sun Apr 12 18:02:48 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive darkside watches are those big runners
[Sun Apr 12 18:02:52 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive with short bias
[Sun Apr 12 18:02:57 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive that doesn’t mean they are shorts
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but Muddy is watching them for the short
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive for the breakdown normally on red
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:28 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if he sees the ticker come up on his scans during the day
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive he’s already got the chart in his head
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:39 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive there on his darkside list
[Sun Apr 12 18:03:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and he’s comfortable when they hit to go with the flow.. and short it
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:03 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive pre screens are a cheat sheet to what to watch for the day
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:21 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 nice
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:32 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive some may be shorts some maybe longs
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive but for me
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:40 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive they are nothing hte first 15-20 minutes
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:43 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive except a focus point
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:46 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive pre screen + HOD list
[Sun Apr 12 18:04:59 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive monitor them for one of the setups I look for
[Sun Apr 12 18:05:05 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and jump on it when i see it
[Sun Apr 12 18:05:36 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and for RFR….
[Sun Apr 12 18:05:58 EDT 2009] tortexal the run forest run scan takes a look at the stocks statistically likely to run between 10 to 19%
[Sun Apr 12 18:06:21 EDT 2009] tortexal it looks back in a 100 day trading period and ranks them by how many days in that period they ran 10-19%
[Sun Apr 12 18:07:13 EDT 2009] tortexal the higher the frequency of the runs, the more likely they are to do this again. So with this knowledge, you keep an eye on the hod screen for them to appear. If/when they do, you confirm their statistical potential to move more based on an increase in volume vs “normal” vol
[Sun Apr 12 18:07:35 EDT 2009] tortexal this is similar to dayrangers however, it looks much farther back in history
[Sun Apr 12 18:08:00 EDT 2009] tortexal imo, the dayrangers scan is the most important scan to use and new people should focus on this one only untill things start to click
[Sun Apr 12 18:08:13 EDT 2009] tortexal that scan will clearly show the stocks in play for the upcoming week
[Sun Apr 12 18:08:34 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 great
[Sun Apr 12 18:09:36 EDT 2009] tortexal the trick to the way we trade, is literally putting statistics on our side. Dayranger, run forest run, combo scan etc, all variations of a theme. we want to identify stocks that have ran a great deal in the recent past, and wait for them to indicate that they may run again and trade them as such
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:09 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive thx Tort
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:13 EDT 2009] tortexal ::beer
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Can you explain the role of volume? or how its relevant, and give examples, because some people say more volume coming in means bigger drop, and some say less volume itll start to go down, so can you explain volume and how it should be used in the right context
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:30 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I use volume as an interest indicator
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:39 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive if a stock moves up on no volume doesn’t really give me an edge
[Sun Apr 12 18:10:53 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive usually when volume kicks up its a reversal of some sort
[Sun Apr 12 18:11:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I look for volume and little price movement
[Sun Apr 12 18:11:23 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive for example on HLX
[Sun Apr 12 18:12:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I had mentioned vol vol vol vol then slowed a bit
[Sun Apr 12 18:12:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive sideways and I covered .. then u see vol return and bam it spiked
[Sun Apr 12 18:12:37 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive there isn’t a right or a wrong way to use it
[Sun Apr 12 18:12:52 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive when Muddy talks about “jiggy”
[Sun Apr 12 18:13:01 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive it usually carries a volume spike with it
[Sun Apr 12 18:13:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive its a point where there’s more interest
[Sun Apr 12 18:13:42 EDT 2009] tortexal http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3399/3189000401_167ed2791b_o.jpg & http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3124/3189001193_243b9a7f0b_o.jpg couple different views (timeframes) of how to spot volume increase and the resutling prce movement
[Sun Apr 12 18:15:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive questions questions
[Sun Apr 12 18:15:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive anymore?
[Sun Apr 12 18:15:48 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 r u using secondary indicators a lot?
[Sun Apr 12 18:16:28 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive such as?
[Sun Apr 12 18:16:38 EDT 2009] tortexal imo, the most important thing is price, even dollar marks and volume. for new people just focus on those three things
[Sun Apr 12 18:16:53 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 MAs on intraday charts
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:12 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 bollonger b.
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive no
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:19 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I don’t
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive volume, 1 min chart and SPY on the screen
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive are my indicators
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:44 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive I feel that all those indicators you’ve mentioned are all hindsite
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:45 EDT 2009] tortexal sure, the 10 and 60 sma overlays on a 5min chart are used quite a bit by some, and Muddy and L
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:47 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive hindsight
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:52 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 i think they pretty useless too
[Sun Apr 12 18:17:57 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive notice when you look in realtime
[Sun Apr 12 18:18:01 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive and look after the fact
[Sun Apr 12 18:18:17 EDT 2009] tortexal http://greenonthescreen.blogspot.com/2007/02/1060-sma-crosses-nwacq.html
[Sun Apr 12 18:18:22 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 vol/price action!
[Sun Apr 12 18:19:13 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 10-60 is a great indicator but I don’t use it
[Sun Apr 12 18:19:13 EDT 2009] tortexal on that link, they have volume circled, thats important to note, the increase in it
[Sun Apr 12 18:21:06 EDT 2009] John doh Is that increase in volume (circled) still important even though it had similar volume in recent days such as the day before?
[Sun Apr 12 18:22:09 EDT 2009] tortexal it is, we start to see a trend reversal on that chart, it’ll show up on the hod screen, the vol incease will help to confirm more upside, and 10/60 cross will further conrifm that
[Sun Apr 12 18:22:46 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 can i get logs from precious seminars ?
[Sun Apr 12 18:22:53 EDT 2009] tortexal of course
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:03 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 previous
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive yes
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:30 EDT 2009] tortexal they are in the dashboard when you log into the site
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:33 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive just hit seminars
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:39 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 ok
[Sun Apr 12 18:23:45 EDT 2009] tortexal http://stackyourcream.blogspot.com/2009/03/give-me-your-feedback-on-this.html is also a podcast of seminar 1
[Sun Apr 12 18:24:25 EDT 2009] tortexal http://www.archive.org/details/Seminar1 d/lable there
[Sun Apr 12 18:25:48 EDT 2009] tortexal what other questions, again thanks for understanding on light seminar content due to holiday ie, few requests for content etc
[Sun Apr 12 18:26:21 EDT 2009] chasefry ty for ur help
[Sun Apr 12 18:26:43 EDT 2009] tortexal no prob, we’re in here practically 24/7
[Sun Apr 12 18:27:06 EDT 2009] chasefry question for tomorrow
[Sun Apr 12 18:27:11 EDT 2009] John doh Avoigt, how long have you been trading?
[Sun Apr 12 18:27:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Appreciate it Tort
[Sun Apr 12 18:28:01 EDT 2009] tortexal ::beer
[Sun Apr 12 18:28:57 EDT 2009] chasefry what point do u think this market is overbought
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:11 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 2 years
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:20 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive 8500-9000
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:25 EDT 2009] tortexal the way we trade literally has nothign to do with the general market
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:35 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive yup I just watch it on a daily basis
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:37 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive for the edge
[Sun Apr 12 18:29:51 EDT 2009] tortexal we are looking for momentium in either direction to either go long or cshort, same rules apply for everything else, just the direction of the trade changes
[Sun Apr 12 18:30:34 EDT 2009] chasefry ty
[Sun Apr 12 18:32:08 EDT 2009] John doh Avoigt, I trade with one monitor for a month before deciding I needed another. It’s worth it in my opinion.
[Sun Apr 12 18:33:03 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 yeah but i try to keep as simple as possible because i am traveling n trading
[Sun Apr 12 18:34:14 EDT 2009] John doh You and me both. I trade on my laptop during lunch at work, but during that time, I only follow 3-4 stocks for moves and have 1 position open at a time.
[Sun Apr 12 18:34:50 EDT 2009] nghtrvn If I run the rfr scan now, I’m only getting 8 lines, is that right?
[Sun Apr 12 18:36:24 EDT 2009] tortexal i run the “combo scan” its the frf + dayrangers in 1
[Sun Apr 12 18:37:00 EDT 2009] tortexal 157 results, sort them by highest to lowest 10-19 and use the top 20-40
[Sun Apr 12 18:37:45 EDT 2009] tortexal http://forums.stockfetcher.com/sfforums/?q=view&fid=1002&tid=62378&qrid= is the code
[Sun Apr 12 18:38:17 EDT 2009] nghtrvn i was just going to ask b/c my results are way dif, thanks
[Sun Apr 12 18:44:47 EDT 2009] avoigt_2000 its 3.44 am in germany am out….thanks everyone!!!
[Sun Apr 12 18:44:52 EDT 2009] tortexal ::beer
[Sun Apr 12 18:46:49 EDT 2009] nghtrvn Tort, u said u got 157 results but I’m getting 1093?
[Sun Apr 12 18:47:18 EDT 2009] tortexal ill post my code
[Sun Apr 12 18:47:32 EDT 2009] tortexal i think mines tweeked a bit
[Sun Apr 12 18:47:41 EDT 2009] nghtrvn k ty
[Sun Apr 12 18:48:05 EDT 2009] tortexal show stocks where close is between 1 and 15 average volume(90) above 50000 average volume(10) above 500000 and average day range(30) is greater than 12 percent offset is 0 and sort column 7 descending set{volcnt, count(volume above 500000, 100) } set{volzero, count(volume equal 0, 100) } set{x1, high – open} set{Long_Profit, x1/open } set{C1A, count(Long_Profit > .04 , 100)} set{C2A, count(Long_Profit > .09, 100)} set{C0010, C1A – C2A} set{D1A, count(Long_Profit > .09 , 100)} set{D2A, count(Long_Profit > .19, 100)} set{D1020, D1A – D2A} set{E1A, count(Long_Profit > .19 , 100)} set{E2A, count(Long_Profit > .29, 100)} set{E2030, E1A – E2A} set{F1A, count(Long_Profit > .29 , 100)} set{F2A, count(Long_Profit > .39, 100)} set{F3040, F1A – F2A} set{G1A, count(Long_Profit > .39 , 100)} and add column day change(2) and add column C0010 {4_9} and add column D1020 {10_19} and add column E2030 {20_29} and add column F3040 {30_39} and add column G1A {40+} and add column C1A {ttl} and D1020 is greater than 9
[Sun Apr 12 18:52:04 EDT 2009] tortexal lotsof action in nzd/usd right now
[Sun Apr 12 18:53:36 EDT 2009] tortexal anyone have any other questions on anything?
[Sun Apr 12 18:54:01 EDT 2009] littercritter tort—–do you think that is from the commodity trades?
[Sun Apr 12 18:54:29 EDT 2009] tortexal let me check vol, i suspect its banks
[Sun Apr 12 18:54:54 EDT 2009] tortexal ther were big moves fighting to keep it +2%
[Sun Apr 12 18:55:04 EDT 2009] littercritter thx
[Sun Apr 12 18:55:27 EDT 2009] tortexal 1.98-2.07 in couple min
[Sun Apr 12 18:55:36 EDT 2009] tortexal %
[Sun Apr 12 18:56:46 EDT 2009] tortexal now its totally dead, it was banks for sure
[Sun Apr 12 18:58:04 EDT 2009] tortexal now its just 2-3,000 lots trading, hitting the bids
[Sun Apr 12 18:59:26 EDT 2009] John doh Tort, that code is for what scan?
[Sun Apr 12 18:59:47 EDT 2009] tortexal that is 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 million per trade for non fx traders
[Sun Apr 12 18:59:54 EDT 2009] tortexal combo scan
[Sun Apr 12 19:00:19 EDT 2009] John doh txs
[Sun Apr 12 19:00:57 EDT 2009] nghtrvn Tort, do you use any SF scans through out the day as well?
[Sun Apr 12 19:01:04 EDT 2009] chasefry ty see tom
[Sun Apr 12 19:01:27 EDT 2009] tortexal if its a real dead/flat day i’ll hit the 8% and up gainers to see whats up huge on the day if i missed it somehow
[Sun Apr 12 19:01:51 EDT 2009] tortexal usually its not much, so then look to scalp a channel on something, etf or a stock or the like
[Sun Apr 12 19:02:44 EDT 2009] tortexal for no we are safely in the red for tomorrow at the moment
[Sun Apr 12 19:03:19 EDT 2009] tortexal those movent in nzd i bet repositioning for green to red
[Sun Apr 12 19:04:00 EDT 2009] tortexal id look for AUD to follow suit and break thie level of S, usd/jpy to go red as well but thats sometimes a wild card
[Sun Apr 12 19:05:20 EDT 2009] tortexal GNW tarp app rejected heh
[Sun Apr 12 19:06:09 EDT 2009] tortexal that will be a monster monster short
[Sun Apr 12 19:06:28 EDT 2009] pjt6970 was trading down .20 -.30 on Thurs ah
[Sun Apr 12 19:06:42 EDT 2009] pjt6970 like 2.10 or 2.20 ish i think
[Sun Apr 12 19:06:43 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2009/04/12/how-to-get-short-and-not-lose-any-sleep-from-greg-simmons/
[Sun Apr 12 19:06:51 EDT 2009] tortexal i mised it completely, just saw the comment on the tarp thing
[Sun Apr 12 19:07:19 EDT 2009] pjt6970 was on fast $
[Sun Apr 12 19:07:56 EDT 2009] tortexal thurs was nice day had the M out early =P
[Sun Apr 12 19:10:20 EDT 2009] John doh GNW dropped so much after hours Thursday, co worker asked me if he should sell before bell at like 2.68. Told him that’s great resistance for GNW, he sold, now he thinks I’m a genious
[Sun Apr 12 19:10:41 EDT 2009] John doh Simple S/R
[Sun Apr 12 19:12:01 EDT 2009] patrick C is up 5% in Japan
[Sun Apr 12 19:24:57 EDT 2009] pjt6970 gn
[Sun Apr 12 19:28:12 EDT 2009] JCastellon great post IL
[Sun Apr 12 19:29:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive fo’sho
[Sun Apr 12 19:30:22 EDT 2009] thahound dude needs to learn how to use aopstrophes ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:30:50 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive just quick thoughts he turned it around pretty quick
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:02 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive after i got off phone
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:10 EDT 2009] JCastellon how did the seminar go? couldnt make it tonigth
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:16 EDT 2009] thahound are you greg simmons?
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:32 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive seminar fine went over some stuff… and opened it up
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:34 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive some trades from last week
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:35 EDT 2009] JCastellon ::cough:: he should be a guest writer for IL ::cough::
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:38 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive figured I’d have more questions
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:56 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive yea I know i asked him about doing some option stuff JC
[Sun Apr 12 19:31:57 EDT 2009] JCastellon nice
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:02 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive i know u want it ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:06 EDT 2009] JCastellon 🙂
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive is who greg?
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:18 EDT 2009] thahound lol, %%%%, i didnt even realize it…this is IL’s blog haha
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:41 EDT 2009] JCastellon i read ILs post ::beer
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:45 EDT 2009] JCastellon posts*
[Sun Apr 12 19:32:58 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2009/04/12/how-to-get-short-and-not-lose-any-sleep-from-greg-simmons/
[Sun Apr 12 19:33:03 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive guy with gun in his hand
[Sun Apr 12 19:33:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive is Greg
[Sun Apr 12 19:33:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:16 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=Muddy%20we%[email protected]&go=&form=QBRE
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:22 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive some1 hit my site by searching for that
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:24 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:29 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive “Muddy we @live.com”
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:40 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive Muddy Method comes up first ha
[Sun Apr 12 19:34:45 EDT 2009] JCastellon http://shepard.tumblr.com/post/95585579/s-p-500-percent-of-stock-above-their-50-dma-april
[Sun Apr 12 19:35:37 EDT 2009] JCastellon http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/04/incredibly-shrinking-market-liquidity.html
[Sun Apr 12 19:38:34 EDT 2009] tortexal JC those links are fantastic ty
[Sun Apr 12 19:38:50 EDT 2009] madmen you should keep posting that article until EVERYBODY here reads it JC!!
[Sun Apr 12 19:39:08 EDT 2009] JCastellon ha, i dont think anyone saw it on sat night
[Sun Apr 12 19:39:31 EDT 2009] madmen did you read his short follow up to that article, based on one of the responses he got to it?
[Sun Apr 12 19:39:38 EDT 2009] madmen some might have
[Sun Apr 12 19:39:54 EDT 2009] madmen tort reposted it and it was on his site too
[Sun Apr 12 19:39:56 EDT 2009] JCastellon dont think so, read most of the comments though
[Sun Apr 12 19:40:00 EDT 2009] tortexal even more interesting are the comments from the floor traders @ GS
[Sun Apr 12 19:40:16 EDT 2009] madmen yep!!!!!!
[Sun Apr 12 19:40:23 EDT 2009] madmen crazy stuff
[Sun Apr 12 19:40:38 EDT 2009] madmen you follow the guy on twitter?
[Sun Apr 12 19:40:47 EDT 2009] tortexal no whats the link, i will
[Sun Apr 12 19:41:09 EDT 2009] JCastellon /zerohedge
[Sun Apr 12 19:41:20 EDT 2009] madmen think fight club
[Sun Apr 12 19:41:32 EDT 2009] madmen http://twitter.com/zerohedge
[Sun Apr 12 19:45:18 EDT 2009] madmen have you heard of GETCO tort?
[Sun Apr 12 19:45:26 EDT 2009] tortexal i havent
[Sun Apr 12 19:45:50 EDT 2009] madmen i had wanted to ask you about their stats, figured you might be able figure ’em out
[Sun Apr 12 19:46:04 EDT 2009] madmen on their home page they list monthy stats
[Sun Apr 12 19:46:16 EDT 2009] tortexal i will check you have link
[Sun Apr 12 19:46:23 EDT 2009] madmen 1 sec
[Sun Apr 12 19:47:14 EDT 2009] madmen http://www.getcoexecution.com/
[Sun Apr 12 19:47:18 EDT 2009] madmen go to stats
[Sun Apr 12 19:47:27 EDT 2009] madmen GETCO execution services 605
[Sun Apr 12 19:47:47 EDT 2009] madmen scroll down and choose like feb 09 for example
[Sun Apr 12 19:48:05 EDT 2009] tortexal lol wtf am i looking at
[Sun Apr 12 19:48:07 EDT 2009] madmen let me know what you read, beside the date and the ticker, obviously, the rest you got me
[Sun Apr 12 19:48:23 EDT 2009] madmen that’s why i’m asking!!!???
[Sun Apr 12 19:48:24 EDT 2009] madmen lol
[Sun Apr 12 19:48:46 EDT 2009] madmen http://www.getcoexecution.com/FEB_2009.txt
[Sun Apr 12 19:49:08 EDT 2009] madmen wtf are all those numbers???
[Sun Apr 12 19:50:00 EDT 2009] tortexal crap
[Sun Apr 12 19:50:23 EDT 2009] tortexal its wow we’re the sht and have crpytic results to show our performance
[Sun Apr 12 19:50:32 EDT 2009] tortexal its on par w/ LONG %%% earnings report
[Sun Apr 12 19:50:37 EDT 2009] tortexal longers it is, worse it is etc
[Sun Apr 12 19:50:59 EDT 2009] madmen i see
[Sun Apr 12 19:51:22 EDT 2009] tortexal aparently that stats page is per SEC requirement and format
[Sun Apr 12 19:51:52 EDT 2009] tortexal GS would know how to read this probably
[Sun Apr 12 19:55:14 EDT 2009] John doh Anyine know if GS has a blog?
[Sun Apr 12 19:55:34 EDT 2009] tortexal he does not
[Sun Apr 12 19:56:06 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive nah he doesnt
[Sun Apr 12 19:56:32 EDT 2009] madmen i though his blog was here, AH everyday
[Sun Apr 12 19:56:37 EDT 2009] tortexal mkt trying to come back, dollar staying pretty weak
[Sun Apr 12 19:57:01 EDT 2009] tortexal still looking like some red to tmw tho
[Sun Apr 12 19:57:37 EDT 2009] John doh Yea, AH is udually when I get busy at work i.e. start working because market is closed
[Sun Apr 12 19:58:22 EDT 2009] tortexal firefox is eating a gig or ram wtf
[Sun Apr 12 19:58:32 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive wow FRPT
[Sun Apr 12 19:58:37 EDT 2009] JCastellon yeah firefox eats so much ram
[Sun Apr 12 19:58:52 EDT 2009] JCastellon FRPT old runner
[Sun Apr 12 19:59:27 EDT 2009] thahound That was a sweet article on ZH, thanks
[Sun Apr 12 20:03:00 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive MSO
[Sun Apr 12 20:03:02 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive nice come back
[Sun Apr 12 20:05:29 EDT 2009] tortexal fliped back to green on broad mkts
[Sun Apr 12 20:06:15 EDT 2009] tortexal its a foot race! ::dry
[Sun Apr 12 20:06:21 EDT 2009] tortexal now red
[Sun Apr 12 20:07:32 EDT 2009] tortexal theres some old car buyback/tax credit going on?
[Sun Apr 12 20:10:10 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive wow
[Sun Apr 12 20:10:12 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive DDRX
[Sun Apr 12 20:10:15 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive remember that one
[Sun Apr 12 20:12:00 EDT 2009] tortexal HSBC to sell London HQ to avoid British bailout
[Sun Apr 12 20:12:08 EDT 2009] tortexal funny
[Sun Apr 12 20:12:13 EDT 2009] tortexal HBC is beyond screwed up
[Sun Apr 12 20:20:12 EDT 2009] madmen GM & GNW news should be interesting tomorrow too
[Sun Apr 12 20:23:38 EDT 2009] tortexal ::beer
[Sun Apr 12 20:29:04 EDT 2009] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/dashboard/
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