[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive another good seminar guys, see ya’ll next week
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:14 PM EDT] bmon hahaha
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:14 PM EDT] guitarhero yes
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:16 PM EDT] Laura yep, night
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:21 PM EDT] james27 …
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:22 PM EDT] guitarhero thanks…was unbelievable
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:24 PM EDT] Seq il thanks in advance
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:34 PM EDT] Laura good for you too huh?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:50 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ha
[Apr 25, 2010 8:00:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive hope everyone had a great weekend
[Apr 25, 2010 8:01:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’ve received a handful of questions… will go thru those… then open it right up
[Apr 25, 2010 8:01:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if u guys have questions on equityfeed after feel free to ask .. and any other plays from this week
[Apr 25, 2010 8:01:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive same format as always – welcome new members as well – all questions we just go in order… ask questions on topic
[Apr 25, 2010 8:01:58 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if it relates feel free to ask in chat
[Apr 25, 2010 8:02:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if not… we will open up at end
[Apr 25, 2010 8:02:17 PM EDT] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Since i don t have a quote box , my broker is in Europe, i follow bid-ask movements on Equity feed. How do you rely on EF L2 to get feeling that pps will go up or down?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:02:35 PM EDT] InvestorsLive EquityFeed is only used for scans. I don’t use EquityFeed at all for quoting – just as a backup source in case anything were wrong with SpeedTrader. Muddy uses quote box I use 1 min charts as I’ve discussed in prior seminars.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:02:48 PM EDT] InvestorsLive As most would say … Level 2 is noise if you’re not used to it
[Apr 25, 2010 8:02:59 PM EDT] InvestorsLive many times it can look strong but all of a sudden all the bids go away…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:03:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive at the same time.. sometimes it helps me.. notice where walls are … when 1.50s line up. $2 wall etc
[Apr 25, 2010 8:03:25 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but it’s not the Level 2 that determines my entries/exits
[Apr 25, 2010 8:03:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s more about the chart… and then I can look at level 2 to determine whose in the way and where I may be able to jump in front of a person
[Apr 25, 2010 8:04:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive QUESTION: I know you generally see the trading day (excluding pre/after market) as the opening “lull” middle, and final hour (or even half hour, ’cause I often see you tell people at the beginning of the final hour that it is “too early to tell, there’s a lot of time left…” Question 1: roughly, what are those trading hours to you? Question 2, of the trades you make, how many occur during the lull period?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:04:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive The same time’s I always say in the past few seminars when we’ve gone over this…. there’s a big morning move … then pull back then usually another potential trade within the first hour or 2… lots of subscribers always want to re-buy stocks after they’ve come way back…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:04:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but its only like noon or 1pm.. only way I’d trade it is if it starts gearing or off support – they are just TRADES/FLIPS. It’s still way too early to think about overnight holds (please keep in mind I only over night OTCBB and Pinks)
[Apr 25, 2010 8:05:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Personally, I like the perk after 2pm+ for potential move but if it starts to breakout I am going to lock into the breakout as its way to early to be an end of day move. I’ll watch the next pull back for another potential buy. Stocks that have no dip from 3PM to 3:30-3:45 I will usually wait for a pull back since normally day traders take profits by end of day.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:05:36 PM EDT] Muddy first i’ll answer this ..”In many of your chat logs, you use the word “hit”. Like1 hit 2 hit. WHat is that?”
[Apr 25, 2010 8:05:59 PM EDT] Muddy that refers to an ever $1 hit or $2 hit on pps
[Apr 25, 2010 8:06:10 PM EDT] Muddy even^
[Apr 25, 2010 8:07:02 PM EDT] Muddy i like to play around even marks, hence the alerts there if i see them, especially with quote box action
[Apr 25, 2010 8:07:09 PM EDT] tmaugham pps = price per share?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:07:23 PM EDT] InvestorsLive yes
[Apr 25, 2010 8:07:27 PM EDT] Laura yes
[Apr 25, 2010 8:08:56 PM EDT] InvestorsLive QUESTION: I recall when I first joined you noted that you had started changing size in your trading. I don’t need specifics, but it would be good to know how, why, when you play size–what are the factors?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:09:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive There’s 2 answers here… this one mainly refers to me … that this person is asking — Muddy can answer after as well – because there’s 2 answers…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:09:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I play relative to the $$ being trade volume and trend. If a stock is skipping around .10-.20 cents at a time I’m not going to play 10k shares whereas I may if it was moving .02-.03 at a time.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:09:48 PM EDT] InvestorsLive My size is ALL relative to the play at hand – what’s the volume? What’s the chart? What’s the risk/reward – is it coming off a base? If I buy a lot can I scalp out some quickly on the break? (ie: VTSS breakout vs. IEVM) Would you trade the same size in IEVM as you would VTSS? Clearly not – unless you play the same $$ size in each trade – if it’s variable than you wouldn’t. The obvious answer is volume/liquidity.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:10:13 PM EDT] InvestorsLive A good strategy that Muddy had brought up last time to view the range during the day is to take a look at 5 minute chart and the last 3 candles. Take the range on those 3 candles – if it’s moving .20-.30 cents easily just be sure your share size is in check – (meaning: are you ok with losing .30 cents a share with your share size? – if not you’re in too big) – or let’s say it’s a tight range off support and trading .03-.05 the past 15 minutes – again size relative, you may play more shares because it’s not bouncing around like some of the low floaters.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:10:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Do you guys see the difference here?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:10:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive with a stock like IEVM and VTSS?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:10:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive or let’s say PBEC (incher) and BGBR
[Apr 25, 2010 8:10:50 PM EDT] InvestorsLive or even ALME (gets the pump tomorrow) and BGBR
[Apr 25, 2010 8:11:19 PM EDT] InvestorsLive the main thing is volume – if the stock is trading $200k-300k you are not going to buy $25k-50k unless you’re on something…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:11:41 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but something like BGBR / VTSS that’s trading millions and millions of $$$ you can play relative to the volume with a size you are comfortable with
[Apr 25, 2010 8:11:55 PM EDT] InvestorsLive make sense?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:12:24 PM EDT] InvestorsLive profits101- guess he’s not in here – was his question
[Apr 25, 2010 8:12:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but the other answer is… it doesn’t matter what the vol is – what the spread is.. if you trade like Muddy
[Apr 25, 2010 8:12:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive unless it’s super low float or subber fun bucks where he plays maybe $1500 ….
[Apr 25, 2010 8:12:58 PM EDT] InvestorsLive every other trade is $3k for him on average…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:13:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Out of all the patterns you go over there is one that still scares me, i notice sometimes you will buy a stock going vertical, usually its up on some news event or it’s a “former runner” or a squeeze or something like that, how do you judge these and know you’re not just buying into the top? Ssince there is no consolidation or anything to go off of. Can you please explain this scalp pattern? how high is too high? when is the momo dead on these vertical spikes?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:14:27 PM EDT] InvestorsLive thought of a few more recent examples that many of you guys may remember if you’ve been in chat less than a month
[Apr 25, 2010 8:14:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ENCO is one
[Apr 25, 2010 8:14:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but ABIO for example
[Apr 25, 2010 8:14:55 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Perhaps an example is easiest on a question like this? But only thing I can think of recently was ABIO – we all know the stock it hasn’t bounced for a long long long time …. the first time it pops it’s more than likely to have legs.. so if it pops and you don’t chase right away watch the quick pull back – most times it’ll come right back for a second and rip back towards highs – other than that only way I’d touch it is if it starts setting up on the charts – chart patterns we are familiar with.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:15:06 PM EDT] InvestorsLive For example: ABIO had many opportunities we’re familiar with https://i42.tinypic.com/wsa2dw.png after the first move. Then since it had lower highs I had suggested whomever the subscriber was thinking it was going to $6 that .. I wasn’t so sure and to be careful since it was fading a bit.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:15:49 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it also depends where the stock spikes…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:15:58 PM EDT] InvestorsLive apply things you’ve learned.. whole dollar crosses…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:16:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive .50 marks etc
[Apr 25, 2010 8:16:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive take FSNM for example
[Apr 25, 2010 8:16:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s ran from .70 to .95 .. then gaps up over $1 one day.. you’re unsure if you should chase
[Apr 25, 2010 8:16:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive a good solid mark to “let it test” is … what?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:07 PM EDT] InvestorsLive runs .70 to .95 … next day opens $1.05 .. runs to $1.10 and pulls back
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive what do you want to see hold and perk off of that level in order to long?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:46 PM EDT] WISEGUY 1
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:49 PM EDT] guitarhero 1,25»
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive wow some1 is awake
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:52 PM EDT] madden00 .95
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:55 PM EDT] InvestorsLive thx WISEGUY
[Apr 25, 2010 8:17:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive yes $1
[Apr 25, 2010 8:18:00 PM EDT] InvestorsLive $1 = whole #
[Apr 25, 2010 8:18:06 PM EDT] guitarhero ok
[Apr 25, 2010 8:18:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive let it re-test $1 … if it holds… bang… if not … well – you know you can let it float around that magnet of $1
[Apr 25, 2010 8:18:18 PM EDT] guitarhero sure!
[Apr 25, 2010 8:18:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive prob cut it off if it doesn’t hold $.95 or .90ish depending on ur size
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:11 PM EDT] guitarhero so basically you chase and get into a HOD chase if it has not run for big time,and those signs?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:11 PM EDT] InvestorsLive You’re not going to nail every popper at the bottom…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive well here’s thing .. like ABIO a perfect example
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s all depending on the chart…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:39 PM EDT] InvestorsLive former runner yes/no ? etc
[Apr 25, 2010 8:19:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive the night before… just randomly I was like .. wow ABIO really sold off..
[Apr 25, 2010 8:20:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I always flip thru old former runners.. see how they pan out
[Apr 25, 2010 8:20:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive GS alerted it as soon as it popped – the first second it popped …
[Apr 25, 2010 8:20:28 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but
[Apr 25, 2010 8:20:55 PM EDT] InvestorsLive anyone who was familiar with the chart knows that it was tightly wound .. and support at $4-ish
[Apr 25, 2010 8:21:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive $4.20-4.30 popped
[Apr 25, 2010 8:21:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ran to 4.50 – pulled back… that’s the entry if I missed the first pop I’d look for ..
[Apr 25, 2010 8:21:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive next test if it breaks HOD = $5 magnet
[Apr 25, 2010 8:21:59 PM EDT] InvestorsLive the difference… between other charts
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive take ENCO for example
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if it pops mid day… I’m not so sure I’d just chase it at these levels
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’d be more watching it and let it pop .. .watch for the fade
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:30 PM EDT] InvestorsLive you see the difference?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive whereas if you go back…….3-4 weeks
[Apr 25, 2010 8:22:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it popped $1.50-$5 pulled back til $2
[Apr 25, 2010 8:23:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that next day Muddy and few others alerted as soon as it popped on volume
[Apr 25, 2010 8:23:24 PM EDT] InvestorsLive see the diffrence on the chart? chasing/not chasing
[Apr 25, 2010 8:23:28 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’ll screen shot them one sec
[Apr 25, 2010 8:24:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive http://i42.tinypic.com/izuyqs.png
[Apr 25, 2010 8:24:21 PM EDT] InvestorsLive risk/reward
[Apr 25, 2010 8:24:27 PM EDT] InvestorsLive coming off support – or high flying?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:24:28 PM EDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Apr 25, 2010 8:24:51 PM EDT] InvestorsLive guitar make sense?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:25:06 PM EDT] guitarhero Yes…helps a lot
[Apr 25, 2010 8:25:22 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if u go back a week… ENCO popped up at these levels
[Apr 25, 2010 8:25:27 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but rather than looking for the long
[Apr 25, 2010 8:25:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I was looking to short pops
[Apr 25, 2010 8:25:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that kinda thing
[Apr 25, 2010 8:26:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that was it for questions I got in emails – did u guys have some more questions?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:26:39 PM EDT] InvestorsLive i think it’s important to view some of these: http://www.investorsunderground.com/2010/04/25/low-float-financial-stocks/
[Apr 25, 2010 8:26:56 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I just changed the date so it shows in the dashboard as a more recent post but I will add to the sectors list
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:08 PM EDT] Laura already did
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:12 PM EDT] Laura 🙂
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive sweet !
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:19 PM EDT] InvestorsLive It’s important to note that bancorps and financials are hot right now
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive so whereas they may be lower volume…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:33 PM EDT] Laura have a few more to add to list, will post an edit date when I do
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if they pop on ur scan… and have a good chart
[Apr 25, 2010 8:27:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive may be an edge to you – knowing the tickers
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if you run my scan: http://www.investorsunderground.com/stock-fetcher-scans/
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:10 PM EDT] InvestorsLive You’ll see a TON of bancorps
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:12 PM EDT] Laura We think these finnies are going to be volatile now, up or down, good plays.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Q’s are still hot…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive bancorps hot…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:34 PM EDT] shimke maybe we can get a run in CORS?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive potentially but that’s the thinking…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:28:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if you see that w/ vol on HODs
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive you’ll think twice this time
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive b/c reasoning behind it
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:25 PM EDT] guitarhero would be nice a list of low floats stocks every now and then….
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive just like these Q’s
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’m not saying it’s guarantee
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:29:54 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s almost free money the ones that close strong
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:05 PM EDT] InvestorsLive risk vs. reward
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive as you know from last week
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:15 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ABWTQ
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive each break we played
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:32 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and Thursday it closed strong – I was over night I know a ton were.. we’ve covered these a billion times
[Apr 25, 2010 8:30:39 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s a GREAT way to start your morning ahead
[Apr 25, 2010 8:31:02 PM EDT] Muddy Stockfetcher will give you low float stocks daily if you want them
[Apr 25, 2010 8:31:35 PM EDT] guitarhero how Muddy?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:31:59 PM EDT] guitarhero not a filter…?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:32:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive with lower float comes lower volume and also comes wider spreads… and with that comes more risk… but more potential reward – so please keep that in mind… !
[Apr 25, 2010 8:33:34 PM EDT] Muddy yes a filter, i use this one with adr columns add
[Apr 25, 2010 8:33:35 PM EDT] madden00 At what point do you decide to take a loss, based on %, or based on $100 ect hard round #
[Apr 25, 2010 8:33:52 PM EDT] Muddy CHCI right now is highest rated fwiw
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:11 PM EDT] Muddy Show stocks where shares outstanding is below 20 and close is between 1 and 5 and average volume(90) is above 70000 set{diff,close minus close 65 days ago} set{diff%,diff / close 65 days ago} set{change%,diff% * 100} volume is above 50000 offset is 0
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:26 PM EDT] Muddy use price and vol to fit you
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive madden – more so in a trend change in this market… if it fails at new highs… or fails to continue its trend .. or momentum slows – then I’m out … if it breaks it’s trend aka the reason I bought it… I sell it..
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:36 PM EDT] guitarhero low float’20 million right?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:55 PM EDT] Laura shares o/s on SF filter, not float
[Apr 25, 2010 8:34:59 PM EDT] Laura but close enough
[Apr 25, 2010 8:35:11 PM EDT] Laura I like o/s 30 myself
[Apr 25, 2010 8:35:48 PM EDT] guitarhero 20m is assumed as million?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:35:55 PM EDT] madden00 k… abtwq, last 30 mins HARD shake, most would have bailed, did you buy more or? Hard call just wondering
[Apr 25, 2010 8:36:05 PM EDT] Laura of course is million
[Apr 25, 2010 8:36:48 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’m always changing with the market – before when it’s a bit tighter and not such a bullish trend I’d cut $100-200 before things go against me .. but in a market like this where dips are all bought out… and I’m playing a lot bigger $200 may be like .01 or .02 for me.. so way to tight
[Apr 25, 2010 8:37:01 PM EDT] guitarhero i was just asking if the software reads like that…ok…its working…nice and great filter
[Apr 25, 2010 8:37:10 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but yes – ABWTQ perfect example of the pre 3:30 moves madden and why not to commit to an over night so early
[Apr 25, 2010 8:37:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive same stuff we went over the prior 2 seminars
[Apr 25, 2010 8:37:51 PM EDT] InvestorsLive any big panic shakes on these Qs have been rewarding on dip buys – wouldn’t put a life savings in it but they’ve been great on big dips
[Apr 25, 2010 8:37:56 PM EDT] Muddy CHCI ENCO CPRX RPC ROHI ABPIQ TIBB DEAR top ones at the moment
[Apr 25, 2010 8:38:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ohhhh ROHI
[Apr 25, 2010 8:38:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive lol
[Apr 25, 2010 8:38:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive DEAR is another one of those set ups we’ve gone over and I put in my scans a lot…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:38:59 PM EDT] InvestorsLive the gap up .. strong earnings – re-test holds
[Apr 25, 2010 8:39:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then breaks the prior high
[Apr 25, 2010 8:39:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive altho I know the move was real fast..a certain some1 alerted his members and it went straight up from alert so had to be wayyyyyyy quick
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:09 PM EDT] InvestorsLive do you guys have more questions? We’re here to help but seems like most are snnozing lol
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive snoozing*
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:19 PM EDT] Muddy heres a good one…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:23 PM EDT] Muddy Could Muddy explain his concept on his ”Muddy‘s zone” , and whats the purposes of it ?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:29 PM EDT] Seq im following right along
[Apr 25, 2010 8:40:44 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Muddy zone = chuckee cheese
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:07 PM EDT] Muddy it’s a natural “breather”, especially in this market with so many 52’s being hit
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:13 PM EDT] guitarhero yes….didn t understand
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:19 PM EDT] madden00 Trading Platform Suggestions please
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:35 PM EDT] Muddy they are ones that are at upper bollies
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:46 PM EDT] Seq guitar @ chuckee cheese some rides cost 50 cents some .25
[Apr 25, 2010 8:41:57 PM EDT] Muddy many are walking up them
[Apr 25, 2010 8:42:27 PM EDT] guitarhero i saw some w 4 or 5 green candles on top of UBB
[Apr 25, 2010 8:42:46 PM EDT] Muddy that zone, the ema10/sma30 i’ve researched for years as the pinpoint zone for bounces back up to obb
[Apr 25, 2010 8:43:03 PM EDT] Laura ubb*
[Apr 25, 2010 8:43:13 PM EDT] Muddy you want to see a green hit in that zone and a hold of it
[Apr 25, 2010 8:43:17 PM EDT] guitarhero why EMA-SMA,not EMA EMA…?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:43:26 PM EDT] Laura do what you want
[Apr 25, 2010 8:43:38 PM EDT] Androo Muddy, those are for swing trades? or just day trades?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:44:02 PM EDT] Muddy because thats what i found best that works, ema combined with sma
[Apr 25, 2010 8:44:12 PM EDT] guitarhero so, if they hold inside EMA10 SMA30 what means?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:44:38 PM EDT] Muddy you might find different but i’ve followed this for years and seems the best for me
[Apr 25, 2010 8:45:12 PM EDT] Muddy if the stock violates that zone its usually dead awhile and dead money on a swing trade
[Apr 25, 2010 8:45:43 PM EDT] Muddy if they hold in there you want to see it go green on the day
[Apr 25, 2010 8:46:56 PM EDT] Muddy the ones that work the best are former squeeze/vol/breakouts
[Apr 25, 2010 8:47:12 PM EDT] Muddy they are explained in the GOTS blog
[Apr 25, 2010 8:47:16 PM EDT] guitarhero so,that s for use mostly for day trade session,not for swings,Muddy?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:48:15 PM EDT] guitarhero didn t get yet..of stock goes up that zone is a good sign,or not?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:48:35 PM EDT] InvestorsLive we do mostly daytrades here
[Apr 25, 2010 8:48:41 PM EDT] InvestorsLive 95%
[Apr 25, 2010 8:48:41 PM EDT] guitarhero could you give me a stock on that zone right now’
[Apr 25, 2010 8:48:49 PM EDT] Laura stock is running up, walking UBB, then goes down to zone
[Apr 25, 2010 8:49:03 PM EDT] Laura good chance of bounce on green hold with volume
[Apr 25, 2010 8:49:16 PM EDT] Laura trying to load charts now, hold on
[Apr 25, 2010 8:49:19 PM EDT] InvestorsLive BFCF in the zoneee
[Apr 25, 2010 8:49:34 PM EDT] Laura ‘no
[Apr 25, 2010 8:49:42 PM EDT] Laura it’s walking UBB
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:10 PM EDT] Hawk29 Do the mods have a solid saying or signal alerting members of a buy or sell. I’m often unsure what everyone is doing.
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:17 PM EDT] guitarhero doesn t matter if EMA10 is above or below SMA30?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:32 PM EDT] InvestorsLive depends on liquidity hawk – nasdaq and what not I’ll alert to
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but most times we spend seminars showing you exactly the charts and where we’d buy
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:50 PM EDT] InvestorsLive to teach you exactly what we are looking for
[Apr 25, 2010 8:50:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but in most cases I will say
[Apr 25, 2010 8:51:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if XYZ test $X price w/ volume I will long lookin for X break
[Apr 25, 2010 8:51:42 PM EDT] Hawk29 Okay, thanks
[Apr 25, 2010 8:51:55 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Like I always say – and sometimes folks take me up on the offer – always feel free to PM
[Apr 25, 2010 8:52:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’ll give you my thoughts at any time
[Apr 25, 2010 8:52:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive tell you what/where I’d be looking to break etc
[Apr 25, 2010 8:52:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but tell me what you’re thinking
[Apr 25, 2010 8:52:23 PM EDT] InvestorsLive don’t PM me and say .. hey is AAPL a buy?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:53:59 PM EDT] Laura ABIO was in the zone, near the bottom, but went green on good volume
[Apr 25, 2010 8:54:25 PM EDT] Laura guitar, if EMA10 goes below SMA30, it’s dead meat
[Apr 25, 2010 8:54:36 PM EDT] tmaugham Laura, are you looking at an SF scan?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:54:39 PM EDT] guitarhero Exact Laura….ah,ok….
[Apr 25, 2010 8:54:51 PM EDT] Laura no Tom
[Apr 25, 2010 8:55:19 PM EDT] Laura although we have a scan to find zone pullbacks, haven’t used it in awhile though
[Apr 25, 2010 8:55:50 PM EDT] tmaugham then how???
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:09 PM EDT] Laura um, just remembering ones that have run
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:19 PM EDT] Laura we don’t actively scan for them though
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:24 PM EDT] guitarhero anyway,looking at ABIO chart, theres no indicator tomorrow will be good…i mean, this Zone sign violation was more for the intraday
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:32 PM EDT] Laura so much else to watch right now
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:37 PM EDT] tmaugham k, thanks!
[Apr 25, 2010 8:56:50 PM EDT] Laura sure guitar, you have to wait til it moves
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:03 PM EDT] tmaugham LOL, i thought that you had about 20 monitors!!!
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:16 PM EDT] Laura that’s like watching ABIO in Jan/Feb, saying ohhhhhhhh, tight BBs, should break out
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:32 PM EDT] Laura why watch and wait, wait til they do something
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:36 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Laura correct me if I’m wrong: http://i43.tinypic.com/ic5yjm.png
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:41 PM EDT] Hawk29 You probably covered this at some point, but do you guys have a favorite price range to trade?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:43 PM EDT] Laura lol Tom, still……….
[Apr 25, 2010 8:57:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but … pull backs… volume returns
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:18 PM EDT] ultimachi The point is not to try and get in at the bottom, or sell at the top as that’s almost impossible (well maybe not for IL on selling on tops lol) but the point is to get in when it starts moving….no point in guessing bottoms/tops
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:20 PM EDT] Laura Hawk, we rarely trade over $5 unless for a swing trade with extra bucks
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:29 PM EDT] guitarhero to watch that zone , u use month chart,1 day?or 1 day 5 min?
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:34 PM EDT] Laura agree ulti
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:42 PM EDT] Laura enjoy a bite out of the middle
[Apr 25, 2010 8:58:54 PM EDT] Laura 3 month daily
[Apr 25, 2010 8:59:07 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that ENCO chart is a 3 month dailly…
[Apr 25, 2010 8:59:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive big run… pulls back consolidates
[Apr 25, 2010 8:59:16 PM EDT] ultimachi yes nice summary, a bite out of the middle
[Apr 25, 2010 8:59:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then BANG volume/price surge
[Apr 25, 2010 8:59:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive former runner etc
[Apr 25, 2010 9:00:58 PM EDT] InvestorsLive has anyone been applying the prior seminars (gappers/OTCBB/Pinks) to your trading?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:01:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and how has that been going?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:01:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive anyone who has done gappers – prolly in the $$ big time since there really haven’t been any bad plays out there
[Apr 25, 2010 9:02:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ok……………..
[Apr 25, 2010 9:02:21 PM EDT] InvestorsLive any other questions
[Apr 25, 2010 9:02:24 PM EDT] InvestorsLive lively bunch tonight
[Apr 25, 2010 9:02:48 PM EDT] Laura I think ultimachi raised a good issue
[Apr 25, 2010 9:02:59 PM EDT] Laura you rarely get in a bottom or out at top
[Apr 25, 2010 9:03:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive agreed
[Apr 25, 2010 9:03:15 PM EDT] craner IL how good are Penny Stock Prophet pumps
[Apr 25, 2010 9:03:16 PM EDT] Laura there can be 40 peeps in here trading same stock
[Apr 25, 2010 9:03:30 PM EDT] Laura we all make different returns on the trade
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:10 PM EDT] InvestorsLive the KEY is to be playing stocks .. that are on the move
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and taking $$ from the trade
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:19 PM EDT] InvestorsLive not holding.. and holding… and holding
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:21 PM EDT] Laura there is no right answer, and no “right” indicators
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:40 PM EDT] Laura everyone learns and adapts what works for them
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:48 PM EDT] ultimachi If you’re new I would stay away from pump stocks….yes they have big rewards but can burn
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:51 PM EDT] InvestorsLive too many folks .. and I KNOW I’ve turned a lot of you… Me, Mud, Laura and others… Sherry’s not in here but she came in here a BELIEVER of MRNJ
[Apr 25, 2010 9:04:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive like most folks
[Apr 25, 2010 9:05:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive MRNJ = real products
[Apr 25, 2010 9:05:05 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it will go up eventually
[Apr 25, 2010 9:05:07 PM EDT] InvestorsLive NO!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:05:23 PM EDT] Hawk29 Can we go off topic yet?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:05:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive play the pump, play stocks with volume, play stocks on the move and take profits along the way
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive It doesn’t take much – I’ll use tyguy351 in here as an example since he’s my buddy.. I’ll throw him under the bus…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s about finding the stocks IN PLAY that day
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and watching for an entry
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive he doesn’t play big at all… but looks for the move he’s familiar with
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:47 PM EDT] InvestorsLive every day last week he made $400 or more
[Apr 25, 2010 9:06:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but he did it $60-70 at a time
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but he sold WAY early on a TON
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:22 PM EDT] InvestorsLive coulda woulda made a bunch more… but who acres
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:22 PM EDT] InvestorsLive cares
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:25 PM EDT] InvestorsLive he’s in it for income…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:37 PM EDT] InvestorsLive he’s not going to get bottom every time.. nor the top
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but the point is… you take the stocks WITH volume and let the trade COME TO YOU
[Apr 25, 2010 9:07:54 PM EDT] InvestorsLive don’t force it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and he’s only been full time about 2 months
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:09 PM EDT] tyguy351 pretty much
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:11 PM EDT] tyguy351 haha
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:14 PM EDT] Muddy i posted this friday night…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:19 PM EDT] Muddy (Apr 23-19:22) Muddy: unreal day, 26% of the momo watches over 15% plus momo and pre hit watches %’s… PSBC 98% EQLB 20% BFCF 18% ABWTQ 29% PCBC 17% CHCI 40% MBHI 44% IBNK 57% CACB 45% MBTF 61% (Apr 23-19:23) Muddy: alllllllll over MBTF before open when i saw that hit
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:36 PM EDT] Laura oh man ty, he threw you under the bus and you here!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:39 PM EDT] Laura bad friend
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:49 PM EDT] tyguy351 i know
[Apr 25, 2010 9:08:56 PM EDT] Muddy theres a bunch on those momo watches but you should at least chart the new ones that hit it each night
[Apr 25, 2010 9:09:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive haha
[Apr 25, 2010 9:09:11 PM EDT] Muddy i look at them all
[Apr 25, 2010 9:09:40 PM EDT] Laura but remember tyguy, a true friend stabs you through the front! 🙂
[Apr 25, 2010 9:09:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive lol
[Apr 25, 2010 9:09:54 PM EDT] Muddy work pays off if you can nail a match up especially like MBTF at open friday
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:02 PM EDT] Muddy a few minute big trade
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:19 PM EDT] chillax match up?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:30 PM EDT] Laura lol, Mudd and I freaking cuz we thought MBTF same as where we bot in pre
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:37 PM EDT] shimke how do i look at old entries in the dashbpard?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:38 PM EDT] Muddy most never heard of it i bet but i had it on my new hits thurs night, so i did
[Apr 25, 2010 9:10:43 PM EDT] Laura noooooooooo, it was a $1 diff
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive shimke – screens?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive chat logs? they are all organized
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive just click the category
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:25 PM EDT] Laura match ups mean on the pre list, and on our watch lists too
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:43 PM EDT] shimke got it thanks
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:49 PM EDT] madden00 It might just be me, but i end up with 3 watch lists 20-30 stocks each and i have a hard time knowing when is GO! time, and then the hesitation has me missing out, any tips
[Apr 25, 2010 9:11:54 PM EDT] chillax watchlist is the momentum list?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:00 PM EDT] Laura yes
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:08 PM EDT] Laura darkside aka momentum watches
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Darkside –> Momentum… next bear market… –> Darkside again
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:21 PM EDT] InvestorsLive haha
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive one thing that is helpful in the AM… for those new… and old…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:33 PM EDT] Laura matchups on dayrangers too though
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive take the pre list adds as they come… just chart a 3 month chart or 6 month
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:44 PM EDT] Laura lol, true IL
[Apr 25, 2010 9:12:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive so you’re familiar with it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:05 PM EDT] InvestorsLive worst case scenario… you know what the chart looks like now and you don’t play it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive best case.. 2pm it hits HODs w/ vol and you know that if $3.50 breaks you want to be in…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:20 PM EDT] chillax hha yeA so CSNT 1.60 to 1.80 for a while then break, buy at 1.60 and just wait or try to get at 1.80 and hope it breaks?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:23 PM EDT] InvestorsLive cuz you saw the chart this morning etc etc
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:34 PM EDT] Laura I look at 3 month daily charts a couple dozen times thru the day
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:46 PM EDT] Laura I want to see where it’s been and where it might go
[Apr 25, 2010 9:13:56 PM EDT] Laura even for daytrades, I gotta see the daily
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:06 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but the ‘worst case’ (aka looking at the chart and not playing it all day) still puts the chart in your head…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:10 PM EDT] Muddy look at this…first 1 i mentioned, 75 mins before open
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:13 PM EDT] InvestorsLive so maybe not today but next Tuesday it goes
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:15 PM EDT] Muddy Apr 23, 2010 8:13:43 AM EDT] Muddy MBTF e/r
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:19 PM EDT] Muddy why?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:30 PM EDT] Seq just hoppen this aint a bus stop
[Apr 25, 2010 9:14:32 PM EDT] Muddy cause i thought the r/r was great
[Apr 25, 2010 9:15:25 PM EDT] Cornelius Did you buy MBTF premarket, or at the open?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:16:10 PM EDT] Muddy MBTF opened at around 2.60 and ran quick to 3.71
[Apr 25, 2010 9:16:36 PM EDT] Muddy i bot in pre but only few cents lower than its open
[Apr 25, 2010 9:16:58 PM EDT] Laura we never used to buy pre, but been having pretty good success buying then
[Apr 25, 2010 9:17:07 PM EDT] Laura bot 2.51, sold 3.50ish
[Apr 25, 2010 9:18:05 PM EDT] Cornelius so when you refer to it’s r/r, you were thinking that the downside was the bottom of pre market, not the 2.00 from the day before, right?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:18:25 PM EDT] chillax saw that 2.50 support later, like w/ IBNK too either have to buy pre or just be very quick on the buy
[Apr 25, 2010 9:18:44 PM EDT] Cornelius mean, you were using the premarket trading range for support, is that right?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:18:46 PM EDT] Laura that’s all we traded Friday, LF banks
[Apr 25, 2010 9:19:07 PM EDT] guitarhero i find otc-pinkies more hard to work with on gappers….Nasdaq are more consistent…even that is dangerous to hold
[Apr 25, 2010 9:19:40 PM EDT] InvestorsLive do what works for u
[Apr 25, 2010 9:19:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but disagree
[Apr 25, 2010 9:19:44 PM EDT] InvestorsLive hehe 🙂
[Apr 25, 2010 9:20:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive only hard part is if you don’t take your gains in the AM and then find yourself asking.. why didn’t I take my gains in the AM which is the whole reason I held it over
[Apr 25, 2010 9:20:33 PM EDT] guitarhero sure
[Apr 25, 2010 9:20:53 PM EDT] devils63den made that mistake with STTN
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:12 PM EDT] devils63den have to takr the profit early with a hold over
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:22 PM EDT] InvestorsLive of course
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:30 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that’s the whole point to gappers
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:37 PM EDT] InvestorsLive you’re holding for the gap profits
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive nothing more
[Apr 25, 2010 9:21:42 PM EDT] devils63den yes
[Apr 25, 2010 9:22:01 PM EDT] guitarhero anyway..CSNT, ,CACB…very good inchers friday,gave lot of time to jump in..IBNK really hard to buy
[Apr 25, 2010 9:23:49 PM EDT] vin4356 Il, any thought on MBHI?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:23:59 PM EDT] Muddy CSNT was great for sure
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:00 PM EDT] devils63den talk about chasing CLRH friday looke dgreat at .36
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:21 PM EDT] devils63den order wouldn,t fill i let it go glad i did
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:36 PM EDT] InvestorsLive MBHI real nice – I don’t do so well with sub dollar Nasdaqs they are always scalps for me.. I never hold long enough
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:37 PM EDT] devils63den but nice play from .35 to .43
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:40 PM EDT] Muddy Apr 23, 2010 9:41:45 AM EDT] Muddy CSNT 1.20
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:41 PM EDT] InvestorsLive CLRH was awesome
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:42 PM EDT] devils63den juats missed it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Friday
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:58 PM EDT] devils63den but didnt chase
[Apr 25, 2010 9:24:59 PM EDT] Muddy CSNT hit 2.40’s
[Apr 25, 2010 9:25:31 PM EDT] Cornelius What alerted you to the bottom in CLRH, L@?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:25:43 PM EDT] Cornelius L2*
[Apr 25, 2010 9:25:58 PM EDT] Muddy if you get a hot sectore like CSNT is in, i’ll always stalk the low floaters in it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:26:13 PM EDT] Muddy CSNT way small float
[Apr 25, 2010 9:26:23 PM EDT] ryuen_99 CSNT has run from 0.84 to 1.21 at 9:41am, how do I know I am not too late in the chase?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:27:16 PM EDT] Muddy [Apr 23, 2010 1:33:39 PM EDT] ShareStock Big spread CSNT
[Apr 25, 2010 9:27:16 PM EDT] InvestorsLive CLRH – just the panic just Like I said the night before and just like I said pre – open
[Apr 25, 2010 9:27:29 PM EDT] Muddy [Apr 23, 2010 1:34:23 PM EDT] Muddy the price you pay for low floaters like CSNT
[Apr 25, 2010 9:27:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I wanted a panic drop in the AM and play the bounce.. .then .44 kept getting sold into so I took the rest off and walla… didn’t hold green
[Apr 25, 2010 9:27:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then came down hard.. broke .35s.. missed the .25 bounce we should have another drop (panic) tomorrow from all the .35-.30 buyers.. freakin’
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive so hopefully .20 test then a real bounce
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:17 PM EDT] devils63den how far past support do you sell
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:31 PM EDT] devils63den do you look for the bounce back or move on
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:34 PM EDT] shimke so u do think the dead cat bounce rule will happen with CLRH?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:38 PM EDT] Muddy [Apr 23, 2010 11:07:11 AM EDT] Muddy BAYN way l/f
[Apr 25, 2010 9:28:55 PM EDT] Muddy check that run BAYN
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:01 PM EDT] shimke Muddy any order in the momentum watches?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:07 PM EDT] InvestorsLive on what devils? are you referring to bounces or you referring to buying off support?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:11 PM EDT] devils63den BAYN sick
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:17 PM EDT] Muddy [Apr 23, 2010 11:07:42 AM EDT] Muddy another 1 crosser BAYN
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:20 PM EDT] Laura bayn
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:29 PM EDT] devils63den low float can turn just as fast
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:32 PM EDT] Muddy meaning a $1 cross mark
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:47 PM EDT] Muddy yes they can turn fast
[Apr 25, 2010 9:29:54 PM EDT] InvestorsLive shimke – my thoughts are exactly as what I’ve said past 2 trading sessions and on scan…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive will trade accordingly – thoughts havent changed
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:06 PM EDT] devils63den the support if it doesnt hold how long will you wait
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:13 PM EDT] Laura Shimke, the first on the momentum watches are the “fails”
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:15 PM EDT] devils63den is it %
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:21 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Not interested if the support doesn’t hold
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:24 PM EDT] Muddy its why i watch the qbox careful
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if it doesn’t do what I think it’s going to.. no reason to hang on – I was wrong
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:46 PM EDT] devils63den yes
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:49 PM EDT] devils63den agree
[Apr 25, 2010 9:30:56 PM EDT] Muddy from yrs of watching i can tell alot of times when the run might end
[Apr 25, 2010 9:31:10 PM EDT] Muddy many use lev2 the same way
[Apr 25, 2010 9:31:30 PM EDT] Cornelius Muddy, is it the opposite, of getting jiggy?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:32:28 PM EDT] Cornelius This also ties in to CLRH IL – how can you differentiate “getting sold into” VS. basing, do you just have to wait and see which way it turns after it plateus?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:32:36 PM EDT] chillax Muddy, likw w/ BAYN that 11;07 alert it was about 1.30 so if u bot at 1, then 1.30 then it piulled all the way back to 1 then to 1.80 eventually, did u take some off on that big pullback to low 1’s?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:32:41 PM EDT] Muddy in part, the vol dries and bid falls even if the ask rises
[Apr 25, 2010 9:33:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Cornelius – it clearly was topping at .44 all day – massive volume hitting offer and nothing was budging, and then didn’t hold onto green..
[Apr 25, 2010 9:33:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that’s when I reminded folks not to turn it into a loser
[Apr 25, 2010 9:33:30 PM EDT] Cornelius ah, ok, so it was the volume that tipped you off?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:33:52 PM EDT] InvestorsLive [Apr 23, 2010 2:22:23 PM EDT] InvestorsLive I’d been locking in when I said gmat – i def wouldn’t turn it into a loss – but I still have some
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:12 PM EDT] Cornelius yeah, i remember definitely, and didn’t let it turn t a loss
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:24 PM EDT] coryd31 what is hitting offer
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:26 PM EDT] Cornelius but, I would like to get better at seeing the top
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:41 PM EDT] Cornelius i.e. before it started to break back down
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive bid and offer
[Apr 25, 2010 9:34:49 PM EDT] Muddy for me the first key is seeing ones like BAYN scrolling on my hod list
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:06 PM EDT] InvestorsLive bid on left and offer on right – cory
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:13 PM EDT] Muddy i never take that hod list off my screen,ever
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:25 PM EDT] InvestorsLive That’s a SIN Muddy !!!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:32 PM EDT] InvestorsLive You CAN’T take it off!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:40 PM EDT] coryd31 Yes but if it is hitting offer but not moving up
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:42 PM EDT] Muddy the qbox showed it was a regional bank, clue? oh yeah
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:53 PM EDT] Muddy qbox shows very low float
[Apr 25, 2010 9:35:54 PM EDT] InvestorsLive correct cory
[Apr 25, 2010 9:36:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then clearly a seller there…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:36:05 PM EDT] Muddy qbox shows jiggy, hmmmmm
[Apr 25, 2010 9:36:16 PM EDT] coryd31 i get it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:36:54 PM EDT] vin4356 What is qbox?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:37:00 PM EDT] Cornelius quotebox
[Apr 25, 2010 9:37:51 PM EDT] vin4356 Thanks, Cornellius
[Apr 25, 2010 9:38:45 PM EDT] Cornelius so, all other things being equal, when a stock has started to run, then goes flat for a while, the difference between thinking it will run more vs. topping out is volume?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:39:02 PM EDT] InvestorsLive volume/perk/gearing
[Apr 25, 2010 9:39:07 PM EDT] Cornelius assuming there is no other factors like it is hitting resistance
[Apr 25, 2010 9:39:59 PM EDT] InvestorsLive VTSS Friday
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:00 PM EDT] marketmaker1177 hi all great stuff, catching up
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:01 PM EDT] InvestorsLive was perfect example
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:04 PM EDT] InvestorsLive pretty clear cut
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:12 PM EDT] InvestorsLive call was there.. chart was there…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive http://i44.tinypic.com/2s81zqv.png
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive popped to near 52s…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:27 PM EDT] guitarhero it can also consolidate and go up on volume but tank,or not?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:29 PM EDT] InvestorsLive pulled back held higher low
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then started to gear
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:36 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and I shouted on the perk
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and ba boooooooom!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:51 PM EDT] InvestorsLive perfect chart there for you
[Apr 25, 2010 9:40:53 PM EDT] InvestorsLive that was textbook
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:05 PM EDT] Cornelius you saw it that way because volume thinned up?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:09 PM EDT] InvestorsLive if it failed to hold .43.. I wouldn’t have wanted it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive volume doesn’t thin u
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive up
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive level 2 does…
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:30 PM EDT] InvestorsLive all the market makers start to form a wall at next resistance
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:31 PM EDT] coryd31 do you wait for volume to increase after the perk to uby or buy on the perk
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:33 PM EDT] InvestorsLive .45s for example
[Apr 25, 2010 9:41:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive all were lined up
[Apr 25, 2010 9:42:36 PM EDT] coryd31 IL
[Apr 25, 2010 9:42:37 PM EDT] Cornelius right, and how about Muddy, what would you be looking for from around 12-1 to decide if it were gearing or topping?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:42:46 PM EDT] Cornelius since you don’t use L2?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:43:01 PM EDT] Laura on what Cornelius?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:43:03 PM EDT] InvestorsLive he does similar stuff – re-testing of highs etc but what he sees is like same thing I do
[Apr 25, 2010 9:43:09 PM EDT] InvestorsLive he just sees it in his head
[Apr 25, 2010 9:43:50 PM EDT] Cornelius I guess i am wondering if Muddy were looking at VTSS
[Apr 25, 2010 9:44:04 PM EDT] Cornelius would you be looking for the bid to start coming up?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:44:07 PM EDT] Cornelius to the ask?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:44:19 PM EDT] Cornelius similar to what IL does in L2?
[Apr 25, 2010 9:44:44 PM EDT] Muddy honestly i wasn’t interested in VTSS, over the years its really too slow for my style and fails on inch many many times
[Apr 25, 2010 9:44:54 PM EDT] Muddy but thats just me
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:02 PM EDT] Cornelius I just meant as an example
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:18 PM EDT] InvestorsLive cory – I usually anticipate a break if volume is there – don’t always wait for it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:24 PM EDT] Muddy there were a bunch of better inchers i was interested in fri but not that one
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:38 PM EDT] Cornelius of deciding what is basinggearing vs what might be topping
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive VTSS main reason I played was cuz 52 week breakout was so close
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:45 PM EDT] InvestorsLive and we got a huge break on it
[Apr 25, 2010 9:45:50 PM EDT] Cornelius ah, good point!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:08 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it’s about the combos
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:13 PM EDT] InvestorsLive volume… HODs… 52s… whole #s
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:14 PM EDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive more u can combine.. more momo potential
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:30 PM EDT] InvestorsLive like biggy size at McDonalds
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:37 PM EDT] InvestorsLive more bang for your buck!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:46:51 PM EDT] Cornelius yeah, i guess my question was a little too myopic
[Apr 25, 2010 9:47:01 PM EDT] InvestorsLive any other questions guys? If no – Let’s bank in the AM!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:47:09 PM EDT] InvestorsLive If yes, Lemme know
[Apr 25, 2010 9:47:50 PM EDT] Muddy the float on VTSS is so huge it just kind of turns me off as it most of the time just sits
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:04 PM EDT] Muddy i’ve watch it for years
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:20 PM EDT] InvestorsLive zactly on VTSS – that’s why we hadn’t played it past 2 weeks.. only when it’s ready to move
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:23 PM EDT] InvestorsLive not worth it in between
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:27 PM EDT] Muddy but nothing wrong with it, was good trade friday
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive we played that first move.. then it just sattttttt for 2 weeks
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:38 PM EDT] InvestorsLive then bang FINALLY tested that 52 w/ vol
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:42 PM EDT] InvestorsLive but the volume is just weird!
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:45 PM EDT] InvestorsLive 40 million one day
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:48 PM EDT] InvestorsLive 2 million the next
[Apr 25, 2010 9:48:49 PM EDT] InvestorsLive lol
[Apr 25, 2010 9:49:18 PM EDT] Cornelius It was good for a noob like me who is still a bit, uh, slow
[Apr 25, 2010 9:49:25 PM EDT] InvestorsLive haha
[Apr 25, 2010 9:49:26 PM EDT] InvestorsLive yup
[Apr 25, 2010 9:49:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive it was a textbooker
[Apr 25, 2010 9:51:02 PM EDT] coryd31 thanks hope to make some money in am
[Apr 25, 2010 9:51:39 PM EDT] InvestorsLive Have a good night all !
[Apr 25, 2010 9:51:48 PM EDT] Cornelius Thanks for everything guys
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:04 PM EDT] vin4356 Thanks, everyone. Good night.
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:27 PM EDT] guitarhero great info as always..the more times we listen about it, and repeated,the more it makes sense
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:38 PM EDT] Muddy the float on VSTNQ is big but its a Q, and inches great
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:46 PM EDT] InvestorsLive ya
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:49 PM EDT] devils63den thanks everyone
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:54 PM EDT] InvestorsLive thing about Qs is on breaks.. they have legit vol
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:56 PM EDT] Muddy WAMUQ LEHMQ exactly the same
[Apr 25, 2010 9:52:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive not pumper vol
[Apr 25, 2010 9:53:40 PM EDT] Laura but price so low, market cap is not big on the Qs
[Apr 25, 2010 9:53:45 PM EDT] devils63den good info and thanks for the time
[Apr 25, 2010 9:53:49 PM EDT] Laura so they move like low floats
[Apr 25, 2010 9:53:57 PM EDT] devils63den to help everyone get this right
[Apr 25, 2010 9:54:31 PM EDT] devils63den good night
[Apr 25, 2010 9:54:44 PM EDT] Laura night all
[Apr 25, 2010 9:57:04 PM EDT] guitarhero ::beer to ILIE..making us better and more intelligent inestors
[Apr 25, 2010 9:57:11 PM EDT] guitarhero ILIVE
[Apr 25, 2010 9:57:25 PM EDT] guitarhero investors
[Apr 25, 2010 10:00:13 PM EDT] bmon TRADERSSSSSS
[Apr 25, 2010 10:02:25 PM EDT] guitarhero yes Bmon
[Apr 25, 2010 10:02:38 PM EDT] Muddy as far as swing trades go, ones that are pulling back even 10% off their 52 week highs and go green have been really good
[Apr 25, 2010 10:03:14 PM EDT] guitarhero ok
[Apr 25, 2010 10:03:20 PM EDT] Muddy many have gone on to hit new 52s over and over with that breather
[Apr 25, 2010 10:03:47 PM EDT] Muddy GTN one of my favs for that
[Apr 25, 2010 10:04:03 PM EDT] guitarhero so,even if there s a pullback last 30 min,as long as doesn t exceed 10% of HOD is still safe?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:05:05 PM EDT] Muddy PFSW CPWM JRN etc.
[Apr 25, 2010 10:05:41 PM EDT] guitarhero pfsw,cpwm,jrn
[Apr 25, 2010 10:06:03 PM EDT] guitarhero sorry typing
[Apr 25, 2010 10:08:23 PM EDT] ryuen_99 JRN, not kiss of death?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:09:26 PM EDT] Muddy you mean a red floater?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:09:33 PM EDT] ryuen_99 yes
[Apr 25, 2010 10:09:58 PM EDT] Muddy no the candle is not out of the bollies
[Apr 25, 2010 10:10:07 PM EDT] ryuen_99 it needs to go below?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:10:16 PM EDT] Muddy its not floating above it not touching
[Apr 25, 2010 10:11:11 PM EDT] ryuen_99 so if something is walking up the UBB, keep hitting 52w high, you recommend holding?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:11:20 PM EDT] Muddy you want that pull to enter a swing trade
[Apr 25, 2010 10:11:40 PM EDT] Muddy sure, thats the purpose of a swing trade
[Apr 25, 2010 10:12:01 PM EDT] Muddy you want a walk not a surge
[Apr 25, 2010 10:12:26 PM EDT] Muddy surge can kill it off awhile
[Apr 25, 2010 10:12:26 PM EDT] ryuen_99 CSNT is not one then but CHCI is?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:12:40 PM EDT] Seq whats a red floater look like?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:07 PM EDT] Muddy see how PMI was walking nice then had a surge day?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:07 PM EDT] ryuen_99 can you explain what a pull means?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:16 PM EDT] Muddy pullback
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:31 PM EDT] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2010/04/25/scans-for-042610-from-InvestorsLive/
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:34 PM EDT] InvestorsLive MRVC my fav scan
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:51 PM EDT] InvestorsLive 1.40 break = ba boooooooooom
[Apr 25, 2010 10:13:57 PM EDT] InvestorsLive good night guys
[Apr 25, 2010 10:14:03 PM EDT] ryuen_99 gn
[Apr 25, 2010 10:14:04 PM EDT] ryuen_99 thnx
[Apr 25, 2010 10:14:26 PM EDT] ryuen_99 do you have an example for the pull?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:15:26 PM EDT] ryuen_99 CHCU also was a surge?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:15:31 PM EDT] ryuen_99 CHCI*
[Apr 25, 2010 10:17:13 PM EDT] Muddy but CHCI wasnt a steady walker
[Apr 25, 2010 10:17:25 PM EDT] Muddy it surged the first big day
[Apr 25, 2010 10:17:30 PM EDT] Muddy then pulled
[Apr 25, 2010 10:17:46 PM EDT] Muddy then hit new 52s few days later
[Apr 25, 2010 10:18:16 PM EDT] ryuen_99 so not a good one to swing?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:18:26 PM EDT] guitarhero Pn PMI u refer to 1 month chart?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:18:34 PM EDT] guitarhero on
[Apr 25, 2010 10:18:49 PM EDT] Muddy a bunch of pennies walk up, then have 1 day surge and are done
[Apr 25, 2010 10:18:57 PM EDT] Muddy the blowoff top
[Apr 25, 2010 10:19:48 PM EDT] guitarhero what u see on PMI that i m not grasping?there was a 10 day or so walking , but then it retraced
[Apr 25, 2010 10:20:31 PM EDT] guitarhero or u mean around march 22?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:00 PM EDT] Muddy my point on PMI is it was steady walk
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:12 PM EDT] Muddy then it had a big surge day
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:33 PM EDT] Muddy the pps never held above that day since
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:34 PM EDT] guitarhero what day?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:42 PM EDT] guitarhero ahhh
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:46 PM EDT] Muddy you want the slow and steady walk
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:48 PM EDT] guitarhero april 5?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:50 PM EDT] ryuen_99 yes
[Apr 25, 2010 10:21:52 PM EDT] ryuen_99 april 5
[Apr 25, 2010 10:22:12 PM EDT] ryuen_99 3/31 was a surged too but it keeps
[Apr 25, 2010 10:22:16 PM EDT] Muddy you get that surge day on them its usually the end of run for awhile
[Apr 25, 2010 10:22:52 PM EDT] ryuen_99 what about the pull to enter?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:22:57 PM EDT] Muddy that was the squeeze/vol/break day!
[Apr 25, 2010 10:23:12 PM EDT] guitarhero also BB were very spaced out
[Apr 25, 2010 10:23:34 PM EDT] ryuen_99 ahh.. so it’s different than just a surge
[Apr 25, 2010 10:23:47 PM EDT] Muddy yes
[Apr 25, 2010 10:24:19 PM EDT] ryuen_99 squeeze means consolidation?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:25:09 PM EDT] Muddy yes. most times the bands are tight a few days back
[Apr 25, 2010 10:25:53 PM EDT] Muddy the bands were pretty tight up until the end of march
[Apr 25, 2010 10:25:54 PM EDT] guitarhero i see as goodentrys when BB are really tight and u get the 1st surge day
[Apr 25, 2010 10:26:15 PM EDT] guitarhero like u taught Muddy
[Apr 25, 2010 10:26:18 PM EDT] ryuen_99 like CPWM on apr 8?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:26:54 PM EDT] guitarhero i see also surges up when coming from very large BB,and tightening BB, and i don t trust
[Apr 25, 2010 10:27:03 PM EDT] Muddy yes, see how bands starting getting tighter
[Apr 25, 2010 10:27:12 PM EDT] Muddy on CPWM
[Apr 25, 2010 10:27:57 PM EDT] ryuen_99 yes… so these ones are too late for us to enter now?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:30:24 PM EDT] Muddy not if you are swingtrading
[Apr 25, 2010 10:30:44 PM EDT] ryuen_99 a lot of Banks are walking the UBB
[Apr 25, 2010 10:30:59 PM EDT] Muddy at/near 52s can on a long long time
[Apr 25, 2010 10:31:28 PM EDT] Muddy i see the same ones new 52s over and over on the hod list few times a week
[Apr 25, 2010 10:31:46 PM EDT] ryuen_99 seems much safer than chasing pops
[Apr 25, 2010 10:32:01 PM EDT] guitarhero i feel the same,Ryuen
[Apr 25, 2010 10:32:11 PM EDT] Muddy you have to decide when to take profits, everyones acct is diff
[Apr 25, 2010 10:32:29 PM EDT] Muddy its so much safer, imo
[Apr 25, 2010 10:32:38 PM EDT] Muddy you arent chasing
[Apr 25, 2010 10:32:56 PM EDT] ryuen_99 do we have to consider when this trend will end.. for banks, wish GS lawsuit and everything.. or just play till the charts drop
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:11 PM EDT] ryuen_99 with*
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:14 PM EDT] Muddy like CROX, i’ve seen it over and over
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:20 PM EDT] Muddy pull, new 52s
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:25 PM EDT] guitarhero Muddy,with that filter on low float stocks, how do you order them’by biggest ADR30?then, u look if they are former runners and see if they are weekdayrangers or hitting hods?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:35 PM EDT] ryuen_99 i love CROX!
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:40 PM EDT] bmon yeah CROX does it all the time
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:42 PM EDT] Muddy they are slower but surer
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:52 PM EDT] bmon pretty decent as both a swing and daytrader
[Apr 25, 2010 10:33:56 PM EDT] ryuen_99 does pull=red candles?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:34:04 PM EDT] Muddy ADR10 i use to sort
[Apr 25, 2010 10:34:06 PM EDT] bmon a red candle means close is lower than open
[Apr 25, 2010 10:34:20 PM EDT] Muddy yes red=pull
[Apr 25, 2010 10:35:01 PM EDT] bmon CROX is the type i love it really plays well around even numbers
[Apr 25, 2010 10:35:16 PM EDT] bmon typically pulls back and finds some nice support
[Apr 25, 2010 10:35:43 PM EDT] Muddy support yes you can use well on these kind
[Apr 25, 2010 10:36:02 PM EDT] bmon yes at the very least at least a starter postion
[Apr 25, 2010 10:37:58 PM EDT] guitarhero CROX started a walk consolidation around april 2nd….then a surge on the 13th…….but next day was up BB, and kept going up…that first big surge was not a sign of trend reverse?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:38:05 PM EDT] ryuen_99 would BBX be a good one to follow ‘cos it’s walking UBB and approaching 52w hi?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:38:17 PM EDT] ryuen_99 or too much surge?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:38:54 PM EDT] bmon BBX i like the chart banks are hot
[Apr 25, 2010 10:38:59 PM EDT] bmon may go on 3
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:09 PM EDT] Muddy BBX good ex. of red floater that killed it
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:24 PM EDT] Muddy now its come back
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:25 PM EDT] ryuen_99 you mean on Mar 18?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:34 PM EDT] bmon if it pulls back ill watch 2.50 hold
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:38 PM EDT] marketmaker1177 on this MRVC, is it better to put in a buy stop above 1.40 area?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:43 PM EDT] ryuen_99 red floaters = red candles above UBB?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:45 PM EDT] Muddy yes 18th
[Apr 25, 2010 10:39:50 PM EDT] Muddy right
[Apr 25, 2010 10:40:11 PM EDT] ryuen_99 but red candles on UBB is still ok
[Apr 25, 2010 10:40:39 PM EDT] Muddy if i was swinging i’d hope for another pull on BBX
[Apr 25, 2010 10:41:01 PM EDT] Muddy on UBB more natural breather
[Apr 25, 2010 10:41:25 PM EDT] ryuen_99 does it need to pull to Muddy Zone or any pull will do?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:43:29 PM EDT] Muddy the zone the best plays i think
[Apr 25, 2010 10:44:30 PM EDT] Muddy cause you can catch then before they hit new 52s
[Apr 25, 2010 10:44:59 PM EDT] Muddy you might get a 10% run just on an inch up to test new 52s
[Apr 25, 2010 10:45:16 PM EDT] Muddy then its all gravy, the new 52s
[Apr 25, 2010 10:46:01 PM EDT] ryuen_99 for BOFL, was it squeeze/vol/break? Am I safe to say it will keep running tomorrow?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:47:19 PM EDT] Muddy BOFL yes,perfect
[Apr 25, 2010 10:47:40 PM EDT] Muddy you have to wait for green though
[Apr 25, 2010 10:48:10 PM EDT] Muddy see BOFL the last time?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:48:19 PM EDT] guitarhero yes….i guess is more safe to get in next day after that 1st big surge, then to get into the same day
[Apr 25, 2010 10:48:39 PM EDT] Muddy if a swing yes
[Apr 25, 2010 10:48:39 PM EDT] ryuen_99 You mean Mar 10?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:00 PM EDT] Muddy in Jan
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:15 PM EDT] guitarhero JAN was great
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:24 PM EDT] Muddy the next like 1.25-1.75
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:25 PM EDT] guitarhero 2 big days
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:45 PM EDT] ryuen_99 2 days and that’s it..
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:49 PM EDT] guitarhero so,could act same way…
[Apr 25, 2010 10:49:56 PM EDT] Muddy so if you see BOFL in pre or hit green might be really good
[Apr 25, 2010 10:50:26 PM EDT] Muddy many high adr’s act the same with this
[Apr 25, 2010 10:50:42 PM EDT] guitarhero there s also chance of being up 5 to 10 % first 10min, and if doesn t hold,better sell…right?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:50:46 PM EDT] ryuen_99 I was just going through the dayrangers while chatting here
[Apr 25, 2010 10:50:57 PM EDT] ryuen_99 High ADR
[Apr 25, 2010 10:51:26 PM EDT] Muddy BOFL is a 12.63 so pretty high
[Apr 25, 2010 10:51:38 PM EDT] Muddy nice 30 too
[Apr 25, 2010 10:51:43 PM EDT] Muddy 11.97
[Apr 25, 2010 10:51:48 PM EDT] ryuen_99 For these, do we need to worry about the float?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:52:06 PM EDT] guitarhero you prefer bigger adr10 then adr 30?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:52:07 PM EDT] Muddy no
[Apr 25, 2010 10:52:17 PM EDT] Muddy no on float
[Apr 25, 2010 10:52:43 PM EDT] Muddy 10 on the hot sectors like BOFL is in
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:19 PM EDT] Muddy PSBC 27.92
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:25 PM EDT] Muddy thats huge
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:31 PM EDT] ryuen_99 is there a posbbility that the hot sector will crash in one day?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:37 PM EDT] guitarhero could also go against us
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:38 PM EDT] Muddy CSNT 26.47
[Apr 25, 2010 10:53:41 PM EDT] ryuen_99 like another lawsuit?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:54:31 PM EDT] Muddy i’m only daytrading these, i dont swing but i’d not swing very hot sectors
[Apr 25, 2010 10:54:49 PM EDT] Muddy i’d want slower walk up kind to swing
[Apr 25, 2010 10:55:00 PM EDT] guitarhero psbc
[Apr 25, 2010 10:55:38 PM EDT] ryuen_99 like PSFW?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:55:39 PM EDT] Muddy in fact i’d love to see big pulls on these regional banks
[Apr 25, 2010 10:55:50 PM EDT] ryuen_99 PFSW*
[Apr 25, 2010 10:55:54 PM EDT] Muddy makes for more volitilty
[Apr 25, 2010 10:56:24 PM EDT] Muddy you see the 52s on BOFL?
[Apr 25, 2010 10:56:36 PM EDT] Muddy 4.25
[Apr 25, 2010 10:56:57 PM EDT] Muddy thats why not good safe swings imo
[Apr 25, 2010 10:57:16 PM EDT] ryuen_99 o yes..
[Apr 25, 2010 10:57:21 PM EDT] ryuen_99 didn’t check that far back
[Apr 25, 2010 10:57:31 PM EDT] guitarhero PSBC i didn t like for tomorrow….closed very far from HOD and was 2nd day of surge
[Apr 25, 2010 10:58:37 PM EDT] guitarhero also ADR10 smaller then ADR30
[Apr 25, 2010 11:03:39 PM EDT] ryuen_99 for ABIO, is it in the Muddy Zone?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:05:21 PM EDT] tmaugham x
[Apr 25, 2010 11:08:31 PM EDT] Muddy ABIO went green friday in that zone yes
[Apr 25, 2010 11:08:50 PM EDT] ryuen_99 so it needs to be green in that zone
[Apr 25, 2010 11:08:53 PM EDT] ryuen_99 red doesn’t count
[Apr 25, 2010 11:09:17 PM EDT] guitarhero so, when goes green on that zone,is a sign of big pop up coming or bullish?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:10:29 PM EDT] Muddy red it might violate the zone plus you have no springboard effect
[Apr 25, 2010 11:11:02 PM EDT] Muddy = bullish green in the zone for sure
[Apr 25, 2010 11:12:05 PM EDT] Muddy myself i like at least 2% green hold for a few minutes in there
[Apr 25, 2010 11:12:06 PM EDT] guitarhero and better if it comes from consolidation?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:12:15 PM EDT] Muddy yes better
[Apr 25, 2010 11:12:29 PM EDT] Muddy more bang usually
[Apr 25, 2010 11:12:40 PM EDT] guitarhero ypu nptice that for years,hum?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:13:38 PM EDT] ryuen_99 do we need to check qbox for this kind of pattern?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:14:22 PM EDT] Muddy no
[Apr 25, 2010 11:15:19 PM EDT] ryuen_99 now that ABIO closed above the MZ, we won’t be using this strategy for it right?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:16:36 PM EDT] Muddy i’d watch though for red to green real closly
[Apr 25, 2010 11:17:19 PM EDT] ryuen_99 Red/Green watch for all candles closed above the MZ?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:17:25 PM EDT] ryuen_99 all symbols
[Apr 25, 2010 11:18:11 PM EDT] ryuen_99 like FTBK? May start walking on UBB tomorrow?
[Apr 25, 2010 11:20:48 PM EDT] Muddy yes
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