[Mar 28, 2010 5:02:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive alrightly .. welcome all !
[Mar 28, 2010 5:02:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive some new members last few days… and Sat/Sunday .. so welcome to you guys
[Mar 28, 2010 5:02:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if just joining us
[Mar 28, 2010 5:03:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same thing as always – we’ll cover the questions sent in.. I’ll share a few things, Muddy will share some things then we’ll open it up and any questions you guys have feel free to add
[Mar 28, 2010 5:03:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive once we kick off… just ask questions on the current topic to prevent confusion
[Mar 28, 2010 5:03:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’ll knock this one out right away just because it’s a good one.. and I often mention it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:03:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (Mar 28-19:58) x.factor: so when you’re saying ABC is “thinning out” you strictly mean bid prices not volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:04:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Some don’t watch Level 2 at all.. I do
[Mar 28, 2010 5:04:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what I am referring to is ..
[Mar 28, 2010 5:04:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if there is lets say a stock .10 x .11
[Mar 28, 2010 5:04:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive best bid best ask
[Mar 28, 2010 5:04:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there’s been a lot of volume.. it’s be trending during the day and looks geared ready to take off again…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:05:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive bid is .08 08 08 09 09 .10 best bid…. by … .11 .11 .11 .111 .115 .12 .12 .12 .15 etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:05:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive whenever I mention that its ‘thinning up’
[Mar 28, 2010 5:05:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive there’s a good chance a wall is coming down (aka .11s 3-4 of them starting to fall… 3 left … 2 left .. 1 left)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:05:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and the offers are spread out more
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so now there’s an offer at .11 … 12 then .15 .18 etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive rather than let’s say 6-8+ market makers between .11 and .13
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive make sense xfactor?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same thing with VSTNQ
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive last one I mentioned it on
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive was about 7-8 market makers before .90 cents
[Mar 28, 2010 5:06:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive between .89-.91
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then as soon as it started cracking .90 … it “thinned out” and there was a market maker .91 .. .93 .. 95..
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive rather than 8-9 in the way… that’s all it means.. something I watch for
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive “
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any questions on that?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:39 PM PDT] guitarhero for a godd entry point?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:07:43 PM PDT] guitarhero good
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s when you usually see a “gear” or a “perk” turn into a breakout
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive starts to lift faster
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive because its more thin
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive less supply in the way
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:14 PM PDT] x.factor ty IL
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:20 PM PDT] guitarhero cool
[Mar 28, 2010 5:08:40 PM PDT] dantx so if it is getting ready to tank look for the opposite? or some other indicator on L2
[Mar 28, 2010 5:09:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yea it can.. that’s also something I look for too with bounces… just to see where it get’s thin and try to catch some of the bounce
[Mar 28, 2010 5:09:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for example
[Mar 28, 2010 5:09:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTNQ
[Mar 28, 2010 5:09:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it’s ‘thinning out’ good chance if volume comes in it pops from .90 to .95 relatively quickly
[Mar 28, 2010 5:09:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive lets say its coming down and theres bids 6 at .89… then .85 .82 etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I may look for the bounce off whever it starts to get “padded” again
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive .80 .80 .80 .80 .82 .85 .90 .90 .90 on level 2
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if .90s start getting crushed…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive market order comes down or something
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u can see it thins out to the downside… maybe grab some .82 . since if I’m wrong i could turn around and sell at .80
[Mar 28, 2010 5:10:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive more than likely
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive QUESTION: my question is do you guys buy in pre market?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy – no, Me – rarely
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive depends how bored I am
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sometimes if I see a huge runner AHs
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or wake up and see a huge pop …
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I like to play it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:11:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but I would not recco for new members because this is a secondary market
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not all market makers are there.. and the trend can be influenced by just a single “big player”
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:25 PM PDT] tmaugham is there a before and after market for otc and bb?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if I play… usually its 7-830am
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:37 PM PDT] dba54 So when ABIO showed pre that it might pop, you were watching but not buying, rightr?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive after that I let whatever happen happens… especially a high flyer .. like ABIO for example
[Mar 28, 2010 5:12:59 PM PDT] guitarhero Still on 1st topic, IL, what OTHER signs are you looking for on Bid and Ask price mouvement to make you decide to sell a stock or to have a good entry point?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive well we can go back after
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive tmaug – depends on broker
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes I can buy at SpeedTrader pre
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’s not liquid
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive depends if your hit or not
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and really only worth doing it if a) its a liquid stock
[Mar 28, 2010 5:13:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive b) its a pump stock (ie: pennypic/titan and other BIG ones)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive c) say I’m over night.. and selling at a premium on the offer
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just to lock a few in
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ABIO something like that yes… dba54
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same with Muddy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Something that is high flying in the AM
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we’d rather watch for a big pull right at the open
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or miss the first move and watch for a reason to buy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ie: pop out of open
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ie: re-test $4 and hold (whole number)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:14:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ie: re-test HOD and break it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:15:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive after 9am I rarely if ever trade… I’d rather just wait
[Mar 28, 2010 5:15:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive a lot can happen between then and 9:30
[Mar 28, 2010 5:15:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar – re: bid/ask etc – that’s it just everything else we’ve gone over in prior seminars… consolidation, perk off it.. gearing etc volume
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any further questions regarding pre market?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive again pre market is RISKY and wouldn’t suggest for newbs
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many times PRE HIGHS are the highest points of the day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive in fact… that’s one of the things we look for… those that are trading HIGH in PRE
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:44 PM PDT] tytrading which time zone are your talking about 9am?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that pull back large during the day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:16:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EST
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:07 PM PDT] Laura the only zone that counts with the markets 😀
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:27 PM PDT] tmaugham Jersey Shore time!!!!
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:33 PM PDT] Laura but agree with IL, pre highs can be highest of day frequently
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:38 PM PDT] Laura very risky
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Pre movement
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive is what causes them to get on Muddy‘s Pre List
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:54 PM PDT] Laura yes, the movement
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Pre list is essentially a list of stocks that are moving…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:17:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive before 9:30AM
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that doesn’t mean they are buys… it means HEY THEY ARE IN PLAY
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so for example a stock is trading $2.45 pre market
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive up from… $1.50 prior day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I want a PULL
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I want to see it pull outta open back towards $2
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (whole number)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if it holds, reason ot buy.. I like it … was just $2.45 trading volume
[Mar 28, 2010 5:18:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many times our late day movers come from pre list
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive let’s say that same stock is $2.45 pre
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive pulls back and just hangs out at $2-$2.10 all day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no play alllllllllllllll day lnog
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but in our mind we remember… this thing was $2.45-2.50 pre ..
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 2-3PM we see it start inching
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 2.10….
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 2.11….
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 2.12 volume starting to pick up
[Mar 28, 2010 5:19:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s a buy for us
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive volume + movement later in the day + pre highs…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive solid consolidation all day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz look.. say we’re dead wrong
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive tops out 2.15
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive starts to fade… you already KNOW you don’t want it if it doesn’t hold $2 right?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:55 PM PDT] cpaul hmm good thinking
[Mar 28, 2010 5:20:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most people have the hardest time taking a loss.. but you play around whole numbers… it’s not that hard… if it can’t hold onto $2 take your loss
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but look there’s no stats to this
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’s not a case like 9 outta 10 go etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy … myself…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many others have GOOD success with these HIGH pre flyers…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that start making moves towards those highs later in the day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:21:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive in this niche it’s about having risk vs. reward on your side
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most times it works out
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:04 PM PDT] guitarhero great info IL….anyway, any filter to detect those ridding HOD on pre market?or you guys do that for us?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive once they are on pre … I am flipping thru them all day anway
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive same with Muddy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:37 PM PDT] chiroview If stock has momentum on breakout in last 30 min of trading day, do you consider entering and plan for gap up when market opens or too risky?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:44 PM PDT] epictrader4ever filter for pre? yes i want to know that too
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but that’s the good thing about this room guitar.. you’ve got 200 eyes
[Mar 28, 2010 5:22:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive some1 bound to see it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:23:20 PM PDT] abulloch OK, so let’s say a pre-high does head back up late in day – say that example you gave does reach 2.50 and holds, so it’s on the rise toward 3 pm – in what circs would you then hold overnight?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:23:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive chrioview – most times I only over night OTCBB / Pinks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:23:38 PM PDT] devils63den thats 100 people guitarhero
[Mar 28, 2010 5:23:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar you may be able to do some custom scan but unsure
[Mar 28, 2010 5:23:52 PM PDT] Laura yeah, we don’t hold those runners overnight usuallly
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive huh devils?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:16 PM PDT] Laura it’s a gamble, will it continue, or will it die cuz it went to high
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:22 PM PDT] guitarhero its ok…great info…thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive abulloch – we aren’t waiting until it hits $2.50
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:34 PM PDT] Laura too* high
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we’re anticipating that “MAGNET”
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive back up to those pre buyers way high
[Mar 28, 2010 5:24:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s the other thing… if its just real light volume
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t watch as much
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but if there is HEAVY volume way high pre market
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and then just pulls back right away
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s one I want to watch
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 100%
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:26 PM PDT] Muddy these pre one’s for me are the best out of the gate , to watch the action, usually off the pre highs and/or former runners
[Mar 28, 2010 5:25:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Lotta folks with a high average… if it starts to move later in the day at a price lower than folks paid.. chances are they average down too… + other momentum traders = pop
[Mar 28, 2010 5:26:06 PM PDT] Muddy later day action then scalps if getting near “test”, mostly
[Mar 28, 2010 5:26:47 PM PDT] guitarhero you say you mostly hold otcbb/pinks overnight?but potential gappers list for tomorrow is full of nasdaq,big caps…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:26:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what gapper list
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we don’t have a gapper list
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:25 PM PDT] guitarhero sorry…i picked some you mentioned as potential gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive only OTCBBs that I mention as potential gappers guitar
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I never recco any Nasdaq/AMEX for a gapper
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not my style
[Mar 28, 2010 5:27:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s hit or miss
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if bomb hits NYC tomorrow my OTCBBs will still gap
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Nasdaq will crap
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive OTCBBs based on pump
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Nasdaq based on reality
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:24 PM PDT] Laura Naz and Amex etc can have “real” news that can whack you
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and another note… Pharma = risky over night
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they are like FAZ
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:42 PM PDT] Laura OTCBBs like IL said, pure pump momo
[Mar 28, 2010 5:28:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive trading vehicles
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:05 PM PDT] Laura og, holding pharmas waiting for approval is death
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Pharma overnight your success is 50/50 … 50% chance it tanks 50%
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 50% chance it doubles
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:30 PM PDT] Laura yes
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cool if you want .. but
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you have smaller account looking to succeed
[Mar 28, 2010 5:29:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive don’t do it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:14 PM PDT] epictrader4ever what do you recomend for small account looking to succeed strategy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:15 PM PDT] guitarhero so,more
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:19 PM PDT] Muddy this is just my opinion but i think alot of the newer folks are watching too many of these pumps in pre…the last 6 big pre runners APCVZ ARWR SSY GENT BKRS ABIO all had real news or e/r’s
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:23 PM PDT] guitarhero about gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive higher priced with high ADR epictrader
[Mar 28, 2010 5:30:54 PM PDT] devils63den good topic Muddy fast pace
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy and I discussed last couple seminars about staying away from lotta the crap and focus on learning how to trade
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive once comfortable move to other stuff
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:13 PM PDT] devils63den explain how to slow it down
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:29 PM PDT] Laura trade the dayrangers list, and the darkside watches
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:37 PM PDT] Laura easier than playing the pumps
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for example…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive a recent example
[Mar 28, 2010 5:31:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive everyone who has been with us for 5 trading days
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Mud called this last week
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 6 trading days ago
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you didn’t even have to play it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but.. you saw what it did
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you NOW know that the STOCK CAN MOVE
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ie: former runner
[Mar 28, 2010 5:32:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this is important for those new folks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so .. it sold off .. 2 days
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the 3rd day …. GENT GENT GENT GENT GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive all we saw pre
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:13 PM PDT] Muddy agree with Laura 100%, learn how to trade the high adrs aka dayrangers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive $2.25 to $3.25 . former runner high ADR .. from darkside scan 3 days prior – everyone knows the chart
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s where our edge is
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Muddy saw it moving, u think he even questioned buying? or me
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you see it on HOD list …
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ba da bing… risk/reward
[Mar 28, 2010 5:33:59 PM PDT] Muddy GENT only one word needed…GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:25 PM PDT] Muddy yes, our edge over 95%+ folks out there
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:27 PM PDT] peb for people who don’t have stockfetcher are ADR lists posted?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Let’s go as soon as Friday too … ZANE … anyone who is a Tim Subscriber… .
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that came to check us out
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you guys sure as hell no this one
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive know *
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but… saw it pop up on HOD list Friday..
[Mar 28, 2010 5:34:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we played the red to green move
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive instant .35 + cents per share
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive why? cuz we have an edge… we know this stock as soon as it hits our scans
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but most folks slower than a live chat…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:32 PM PDT] epictrader4ever HOD list? u mean scott trade?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:36 PM PDT] Laura after the seminar, read this link on Mudd’s catches this week http://darksidetrading.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-we-roll.html
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive once they see it green and a reason to buy … then they finally start buying
[Mar 28, 2010 5:35:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive “HOW WE ROLL” lol
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Yes HOD list isn’t just Scotttrade anymore
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but yes HOD = High of Day List
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:21 PM PDT] Laura and for newer peeps, read this link on the scans we run http://greenonthescreen.blogspot.com/2008/06/im-gonna-try.html
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Scottrade, SpeedTrader, EquityFeed – I believe Reaper said Lightspeed had one
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:27 PM PDT] Tommy123 so we buy red/green and everyone buys green
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just look at ZANE chart
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive $2 base .. support
[Mar 28, 2010 5:36:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive everoyne is still watching it it just ran huge
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive everyone is ‘waiting’ for the reversal
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive probably never happens but
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:15 PM PDT] guitarhero You started buying ZANE the moment started going up after the open pullback?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I bought at 2.09-2.11 I think
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and no I bought as soon as I saw volume
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and HOD hits
[Mar 28, 2010 5:37:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive check chat logs on Friday
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 26, 2010 7:26:35 AM PDT] InvestorsLive ZANE eye here
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 26, 2010 7:26:51 AM PDT] InvestorsLive longed a few 2.10 [Mar 26, 2010 7:27:05 AM PDT] InvestorsLive 2.08 – 2.10 will add if it holds and snaps HOD
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I wasn’t in when I said ‘eye here’
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:14 PM PDT] Tommy123 Why is it good to buy when somethinkg hits HOD doesnt it mean the stock hit HOD and will no longer go up so much?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I saw the volume spike up
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then HOD list
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and then it crossed red/green
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:34 PM PDT] guitarhero but on that instant,of 2.09 it rised very fast..we have what?20 secs to buy?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive how does it mean that Tommy?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:38:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar – sometimes 2 seconds…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 20 seconds ton of time
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I wish I had 20 seconds on a lot of stuff 🙂
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:06 PM PDT] Tommy123 Just wondering,since it hit HOD already why will it do it again and again?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’s ok if you miss .. always more
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but that’s just one of those things like I was explaining
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive w/ GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:38 PM PDT] Tommy123 i see
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I didn’t have to do “leg work” to determine when/why/how to buy ZANE
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I saw it on scans.. you just know …
[Mar 28, 2010 5:39:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive former runner
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:06 PM PDT] guitarhero Zane at 2,09 you bought a limit order?market would be suicide…?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:09 PM PDT] epictrader4ever GENT are we expecting support 2.50 ? round number?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I never buy market
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive GENT no idea epic
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s not the play
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:38 PM PDT] tytrading do you mention former runner so we new people know?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the point is
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive 3 days prior to the last run on GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:40:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it ran huge
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive think about it.. tomorrow (Monday)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:10 PM PDT] chiroview Do you sell at market?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive say GENT goes $1.50 to $3
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive tomorrow
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (who cares the price right now)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Tuesday/Wednesday … sells off ab it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no one cares
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Thursday comes along… we see volume spiking on GENT
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and HODs or red/green
[Mar 28, 2010 5:41:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and its $2?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive itw as JUST $3 … on Monday…. 2 days sell off…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this is the first rebound
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive former runner = our edge
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive boom
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s the thought process here
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:26 PM PDT] jangidap IL, when the stock has lot of momentum your hits on the Ask also don’t get filled sometime coz they keep moving up the Ask so in that case wouldn’t you buy at Market?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guys – as I always say
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I NEVER use market
[Mar 28, 2010 5:42:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you don’t have to put limit at the offer…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you can put it a few pennies above
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but if I see it on my screen on Nasdaq – I can get it
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s without question
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:23 PM PDT] jangidap ok
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any other questions regarding that stuff?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:43:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for me or Muddy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive good questions so far guys – and don’t be afraid of a dumb question
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many times folks will have same
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:09 PM PDT] tytrading Do you mention former runner?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just don’t want to ask
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sometimes yes Ty
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most stocks we mention we know have a history
[Mar 28, 2010 5:44:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most not all
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:02 PM PDT] chiroview Ok, simple one. Looking all different brokers providing chart styles etc. What’s the best ones to use, simple but good? Thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive That’s all up to you, I would suggest trying out the different demo’s
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive to seew hat you like best
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I like SpeedTrader
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive others swear by TOS etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:45:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but if you stick around after hours Mon-Fri most peeps will help you and give you their input chiroview
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:05 PM PDT] guitarhero You said you would cover gappers….for instance, gappers strategy to get in, should be after 1st pullback?any more on gappers?also, no definite sign shows a stock will gapper up,right?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s best for that rather than seminar – usually 100+ folks after 4PM and late night
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yea re: Gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive well – first L did u have something to add
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I see u typing
[Mar 28, 2010 5:46:53 PM PDT] Laura Guys, I can’t emphasis it enough…………read the greenonthescreen blog to understand the scans we do
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://greenonthescreen.blogspot.com/2008/06/im-gonna-try.html
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:17 PM PDT] Laura run them every night for a year or two, you know TONS of former runners, tons of tickers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:30 PM PDT] Tommy123 where do you start reading it it dates back to 2007
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:43 PM PDT] Laura Tommy, start wherever
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:46 PM PDT] Laura but READ
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:49 PM PDT] devils63den not something you learn in a couple of weeks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive It’s like a digital book
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive w/ pictures too
[Mar 28, 2010 5:47:59 PM PDT] devils63den this style tahe time
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:07 PM PDT] Laura read the Important Posts first
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:14 PM PDT] Laura then read a few at a time
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:17 PM PDT] devils63den must watch every day and have patience
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:31 PM PDT] Seq 10/60 crosses need to be mentioned more often……REASONS as well
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:34 PM PDT] Tommy123 what does it cost?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Free to everyone, $999 for u Tommy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I just linked it… it’s just a blog
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive w/ good info
[Mar 28, 2010 5:48:58 PM PDT] epictrader4ever lol
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:00 PM PDT] Tommy123 cool ill paypal u the money
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive anyway … re: gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this is important
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I always get “What are you holding over night IL”
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I post stocks that are on my scan… stocks that are closing strong
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I post during the day before 3PM
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what stocks I like for a gapper
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive IF they close strong
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the rest is up to you
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive at 3:50PM EST
[Mar 28, 2010 5:49:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you ask “IL What are you gapping over”
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’m not gonig to answer them … because then its an impulse buy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and if 25-30 of you buy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:14 PM PDT] devils63den if they close strong hold till 9.30 or so
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the stock is going to spike
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not my thing
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that stuff is up to you…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I like reapertrades.com blog … he does this
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Reaper a good guy… but
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive point is
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:47 PM PDT] devils63den or sell its your comfort level
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive he’s not in here asking… what are u gapping…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive he watches 2-3… 4 maybe
[Mar 28, 2010 5:50:56 PM PDT] devils63den no right or wrong
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sees some pumps sees a strong clsoe
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive buys at his own risk … etc
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many times we hold the same stuff over
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I use him for an example because …
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive he never did this before…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive adapted the strategy
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and… found out … hey
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t have good luck with sub .25 stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but… over .50 + I’ve done pretty well
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you will find wahtever works for you best…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive both him and I lost on WTKN .. .which sucked… skewed all his results/numbers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:51:56 PM PDT] Laura yes, I see it every day………… 3:30-4, peeps asking what to hold o/n
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:02 PM PDT] devils63den why .25 no luck
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no reason…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just not for him
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:12 PM PDT] Laura It’s no mystery, IL tells you same thing every day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:36 PM PDT] devils63den same play why no luck .25
[Mar 28, 2010 5:52:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so no problems telling you what stuff is closing strong
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and hey.. maybe he has better luck now with different routes
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive at SpeedTrader
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:14 PM PDT] Reaper lol hey ur talking about me 😉 … good point IL
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but before he only had AUTO at ThinkorSwim
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive now .. I bet he finds better success
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on the adverse move…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive maybe he gets out faster with NITE
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or ETMM
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or whomever he sees on bid
[Mar 28, 2010 5:53:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive point is… you adapt
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so anyway
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gappers…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I look for strong charts…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive stuff that inches up all day…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Thursday Friday read the logs
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll see all those inchers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ALL day…. mentioned
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:26 PM PDT] devils63den ILyou now have luck at .25 ::smoke
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2010/03/27/some-hot-charts-that-teach-some-good-technical-analysis/
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I did this post over the weekend
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not an “I Told you so” post
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its to review
[Mar 28, 2010 5:54:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive technical analysis works
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive go back thru logs you’ll see these ALL mentioned… ALL gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ALL technical breaks
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive this is where my niche is…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:36 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’s about the first 5-10 minutes
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if momentum doesn’t follow thru in the AM
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (you’ll know right away with volume)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then I have no interest being in
[Mar 28, 2010 5:55:57 PM PDT] InvestorsLive book my profits from the night before
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I CAN ALWAYS RE BUY
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but …
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive FWTC for example
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive lotta times… EOD movement
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive gives away the nexts days news
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or promo
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 26, 2010 11:33:37 AM PDT] InvestorsLive FWTC maybe more promotion over weekend [Mar 26, 2010 11:33:39 AM PDT] InvestorsLive came back nicely [Mar 26, 2010 11:33:48 AM PDT] InvestorsLive just watching to close – not in
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I didn’t over night this… I forgot
[Mar 28, 2010 5:56:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but … FWTC was a pump last week…. but yet
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive keeps hitting new highs on Friday
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive WHY?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its Friday… sneaking up.. keeps going
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive WHY?
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sure enough
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I got like 3-4 emails tonight
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I didn’t hold over night… o well … but my point
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive also sheep (ie: OTCBB investors)
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like to keep adding .. when things are going good
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if they see a stock up 25% one day
[Mar 28, 2010 5:57:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they like to add the next…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just what they do
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if a stock closes strong and it was a pump
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive u better belive they prolly pump over night
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:28 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then lock in profits the next morning
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I like this because it puts me up… maybe only a few hundred… or maybe a few thousand
[Mar 28, 2010 5:58:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and then the rest of the day.. I don’t force any trades.. and can take on bigger risk
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTNQ Thursday was closing strong… “thinning up”
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive closed near the high… momentum carried over.. gapped up
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive set me up almost $2500+
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SKNY was a fail
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I lost $400 on it…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive closed OK…
[Mar 28, 2010 5:59:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I blame the quotation systems too… they were down on Friday
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:07 PM PDT] guitarhero IL, after open, gappers strategy to get in, should be after 1st pullback?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for the first hour
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just let them set up.. let them find support if they start bumping up.. sure grab them
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive many time gappers may be their highs
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but recently like that post I just linked
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:40 PM PDT] devils63den what do you mean the quotation system
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive it’s been $1+ stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that have been hot
[Mar 28, 2010 6:00:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 26, 2010 6:37:57 AM PDT] InvestorsLive I think Pinksheet quotes are down [Mar 26, 2010 6:37:58 AM PDT] InvestorsLive FYI [Mar 26, 2010 6:38:09 AM PDT] InvestorsLive OTCBB too [Mar 26, 2010 6:38:13 AM PDT] InvestorsLive all across the board
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 26, 2010 7:44:27 AM PDT] InvestorsLive >There are street-wide issues on pink sheet and otc-bb stocks. thi is effecting both >quoting and executions. The market makers are having issues posting and changing >their quotes. they are also having linkage issue to each other preventing them from >being able to reroute orders to each other. >Again, this is a street wide issue between the MM’s and there is nothing we can do >from here to resolve it.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:04 PM PDT] devils63den i find diffrent quotes on diffrent sites
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive nah, nothing to do with that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:14 PM PDT] InvestorsLive system wide issue
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any other question re: gappers?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:28 PM PDT] devils63den yea say that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like WMBI
[Mar 28, 2010 6:01:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive tomorrow
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive prolly gaps… then sells off
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive usually their momo is created everyone buying for the gapper… and the weekend promotion
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:10 PM PDT] devils63den guitarhero you clear on gappers
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then everyone in on Friday…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive looking to sell Monday…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive don’t be the last bag holder
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:51 PM PDT] Seq wmbi or wnbL are a ticker
[Mar 28, 2010 6:02:56 PM PDT] Muddy those weekend promo’s!
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Seq – PSCs pump
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive WMBI (i)
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:30 PM PDT] chiroview When you recommend stocks to put on watchlist, do you indentify “pumpers”?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we always warn
[Mar 28, 2010 6:03:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we’re big about that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz some many folks who join… are down like 90% cuz they buy all the pumps
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and hold
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like FOYJ
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:14 PM PDT] Muddy its right here Stock Promoters WMBI Penny Stock Chaser, Xtreme Picks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive everyone wanted to buy …
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive FOYJ.. its down so much
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:21 PM PDT] jangidap like SMCE
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive has to bounce .. has to bounce
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:30 PM PDT] Muddy http://stockreads.com/
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive stockreads is great
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SMCE – was a fail all around the 2nd day,… fortunately for us we were in for the big gap that day…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:04:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive was a situation of giving back some profits
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I bought 1.25 thinking they’d hold it… but recco’d selling if 1.20 snapped and careful but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’d be more pissed if we werent up huge
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on the over night gap and buys 1.40 prior day
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:26 PM PDT] Muddy hehe…Stock Promoters ABIO College Stock
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but great example
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive SMCE … where
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:35 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we know to take a loss
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:38 PM PDT] jangidap problem was I thought 1.50 was a pull back and it goes up but within 10 mins it went from 1.50 to 1.30’s
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive rather than let the stock control us
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s what its about.. most folks keep adding adding adding
[Mar 28, 2010 6:05:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s why most folks lose in this game
[Mar 28, 2010 6:06:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz they don’t pay attention to any rules
[Mar 28, 2010 6:06:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they know whats right… but keep doing otherwise
[Mar 28, 2010 6:06:23 PM PDT] jangidap and never came back up, so maybe I gotta keep away from pumps as I can’t keep up with momentum from work
[Mar 28, 2010 6:06:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes or just pay attention to the warnings
[Mar 28, 2010 6:06:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive [Mar 25, 2010 7:18:10 AM PDT] InvestorsLive SMCE broke LOD careful
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if they don’t hold bottoms – its just not worth it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:14 PM PDT] devils63den jang day trading from work id well crazy
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive let it trade then look at it 3-3:30PM +
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:23 PM PDT] devils63den is crazy
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:35 PM PDT] devils63den dont know how you do it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yea jang – you should stick to $5-15 stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive also big moves to the upside on pumps … guys u gotta lock some in
[Mar 28, 2010 6:07:59 PM PDT] Muddy you have to watch like a hawk, those pumps
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:04 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t care if it can go to the MOON
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but if you get in…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and it starts rollin’ goes 20-30% in a sec
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive freakin’ LOCK SOME IN
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive minimize your risk
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive who cares if it keeps going
[Mar 28, 2010 6:08:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I bet most cases you’ll be happy you did
[Mar 28, 2010 6:09:23 PM PDT] Muddy i play usually only 1/2 normal position size on the pumps anyway, for me it’s fun rather than a living
[Mar 28, 2010 6:09:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and again .. regarding pumps…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:09:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll notice we only play the ones that have volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we have NO INTEREST in lower volume pumps
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that’s where people get hurt
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive PLAY STOCKS WITH MOMO
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive With INTEREST
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:31 PM PDT] devils63den whats the limit on lower vol pumps
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:39 PM PDT] devils63den 300k
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Mud likes 1mil shares +
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t play much of anything unless it hits my scan
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:48 PM PDT] devils63den k
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:48 PM PDT] abulloch minimum volume = roughly what?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:10:53 PM PDT] Seq this comming week in particular with volume can be very costly if wrong
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive which means its traded at least $100,000 bucks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:03 PM PDT] Laura I want at least $50k dollar volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yup
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:20 PM PDT] Laura don’t care abt share vol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you’ll see everything I mention has good volume same with Muddy
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:40 PM PDT] abulloch best place to see volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:47 PM PDT] guitarhero so,independent of the pps on the stock,should be traded above $100 k?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive anywhere
[Mar 28, 2010 6:11:58 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar that’s how I play safe
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:00 PM PDT] tmaugham Laura, last price x total volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:01 PM PDT] Laura might have 5 mil shares traded, but if dollar vol is $10k, no thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:01 PM PDT] abulloch Laura – do you use Scott for eying volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:07 PM PDT] Laura yes Tom
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive you don’t want to play a stock that has traded $25k shares
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:15 PM PDT] InvestorsLive what if you buy $5k worth.. 1/5th the volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:22 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that means you and 5 other people like the stofck
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:25 PM PDT] Laura well I use scott quoteboxes to see vol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if 3 decide to sell
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive good inght
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive night*
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:38 PM PDT] Laura exactly IL
[Mar 28, 2010 6:12:55 PM PDT] devils63den question
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:16 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and those that want to know my EquityFeed scan
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just go to seminars
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive its labeled
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:27 PM PDT] guitarhero sorry to move topic again….can be risky to jump on a gapper after open, since it can start going down, after a hod….but after a selloff, is good to enter at a textbook mouvment or join the rise up again?i remeber crazy LYJN falling down like hell 2 days ago….
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive at your own risk
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I warned from .10 down
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive to levae it alone
[Mar 28, 2010 6:13:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive couple things there
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive after the initial move on stocks like that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just trade it on your own if you want..
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:14 PM PDT] ckings888 Do you put in a stop loss right after a buy just to be safe?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:21 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just creates noise in chat… you’ll see me play
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the first drop
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:28 PM PDT] devils63den question
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive luquidity SUCKED in it…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive so at .10 all the way down
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I kept saying… leave it along leave it alone
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:43 PM PDT] guitarhero i m still just paper trading simulating
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:47 PM PDT] InvestorsLive in hindsight sure…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive .05 ..
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive to .08
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive shoulda coulda woulda
[Mar 28, 2010 6:14:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but – no thanks… its just not worth it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I like the FIRST TANK
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive NXTH….
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:07 PM PDT] coryd31 how do you get to the seminar
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:09 PM PDT] InvestorsLive WAMUQ….
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive VSTNQ ..
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:19 PM PDT] InvestorsLive investorsunderground.com/dashboard
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive click seminar
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ckings888
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive on what… nasdaq?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:15:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive stops on OTCBB/Pinks don’t work … good luck with that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:03 PM PDT] guitarhero NXTH u mean last friday?you ‘re shorting it after 1st tank?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:05 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t use stops… unless I’m in a bunch of stuff… make some $$ and just riding some for fun
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive no NXTH the tank…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:18 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the 2 big tanks.. that’s only time I played
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the big tanks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive go to 6 month charts
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive after that I leave alaone
[Mar 28, 2010 6:16:45 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ckings888 – stops on OTCBB Pinks are useless
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive they trade thin and aren’t bound to any Nasdaq rules… re: best bids/pricing.. market etc etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:20 PM PDT] ckings888 ty
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:23 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if you hvae a problem taking losses and/or averaging down and all that stuff
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sure use them
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t but… I am good if the stock moves against me
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:38 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I’ll just cut it off.. if it breaks under support
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive where I bought it off
[Mar 28, 2010 6:17:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive days that I start off better than others.. I may have a ‘wider’ stop
[Mar 28, 2010 6:18:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive most times tho .. I like the chart I’m buying into .. so worst case if I get “stuck”
[Mar 28, 2010 6:18:17 PM PDT] InvestorsLive I don’t mind swinging
[Mar 28, 2010 6:18:25 PM PDT] InvestorsLive cuz most times my plays are textbook breakouts
[Mar 28, 2010 6:18:29 PM PDT] InvestorsLive coming off support levels
[Mar 28, 2010 6:18:54 PM PDT] ckings888 what are the rules for avg down, when would that play be made
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:05 PM PDT] Laura never
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:11 PM PDT] devils63den ever
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:27 PM PDT] chanceypoo geeze IL i look at chat n its90% all u
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:28 PM PDT] chanceypoo LOL
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:44 PM PDT] devils63den cost the same and ties up you cash
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:48 PM PDT] InvestorsLive only time I “average down” which I don’t even call it “averaging down”
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:54 PM PDT] InvestorsLive is when I am positioning in a trade
[Mar 28, 2010 6:19:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if I buy say a starter
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive if I am buying a starter
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:06 PM PDT] Laura We will avg up on a short sometimes, but still…….ya gotta let it go if it gets out of hand
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive that means I know I WANT to be long
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:20 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but it may be choppy so I’ll avg in to a full size
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:24 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but its never because I bought a stock
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:26 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and I’m down
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:28 PM PDT] devils63den wow your long
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:31 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and I’m trying to get my average down
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive because that’s what kills you
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:41 PM PDT] InvestorsLive just look at FOYJ folks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive sure.. it was up Friday
[Mar 28, 2010 6:20:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:21:03 PM PDT] InvestorsLive how about thsoe that added .15 … .10 .. .05 … .02 … .01 … .008 …007
[Mar 28, 2010 6:21:30 PM PDT] InvestorsLive any further questions on that stuff guys?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:21:39 PM PDT] chiroview I just want to break in to say this is my first time joining; you folks are outstanding. Making newbies feel comfortable.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:21:50 PM PDT] InvestorsLive oh man THAT WAS AKWARD
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:01 PM PDT] InvestorsLive AWKWARD
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:07 PM PDT] InvestorsLive jk welcome chiro 🙂
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:11 PM PDT] guitarhero Muddy…maybe stupid question…if a stock has a ADR 30 days of 20%, which fundamental law will tell me that it will keep bouncing a big ADR next days?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:44 PM PDT] InvestorsLive M=mc2 guitar
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:49 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or E = m * c^2
[Mar 28, 2010 6:22:54 PM PDT] Laura welcome chiropractor, I need an adjustment
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:01 PM PDT] chiroview 🙂
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:02 PM PDT] guitarhero ??lolll
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:05 PM PDT] Seq neck?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:11 PM PDT] chiroview You’re fine.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:13 PM PDT] Muddy i’ll avg up n a short sometimes but never avg down on a long, in fact i’ll be out on long if position goes against me pretty fast
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:20 PM PDT] Laura Seq I’m old, who knows
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:32 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar – high ADR .. usually last a few days after extreme volatility
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:37 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then maybe consolidate…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:40 PM PDT] InvestorsLive ADR becomes lower… but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:51 PM PDT] Laura the high ADR scan is rocking scan
[Mar 28, 2010 6:23:52 PM PDT] Seq L 🙂 anything once
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:22 PM PDT] Laura the stocks on the high ADR scan are the ones that you revisit time and time again
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yup.. they come and go
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:39 PM PDT] InvestorsLive like GENT.. we now know…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:39 PM PDT] Laura sure, half are one hit wonders………but the other half, pure gold
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:42 PM PDT] InvestorsLive has a grea high ADR but
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:46 PM PDT] InvestorsLive now it prob goes thru a consolidation period
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive and we forget about it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:55 PM PDT] Laura sure, GENT will drop off the ADR scan
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:56 PM PDT] InvestorsLive but then in 1-2 months
[Mar 28, 2010 6:24:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive we’ll see it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:00 PM PDT] InvestorsLive BOOOOM
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive former runner we know
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:09 PM PDT] Laura but how long has MPG been on it?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:12 PM PDT] InvestorsLive then its high ADR for a few days.. etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:16 PM PDT] Laura shew, nice one
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:22 PM PDT] guitarhero ok, that helped me to understand…anyway ,big ADRs are good to watch only if big volume on it and bigger number of trades,right?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:31 PM PDT] Laura noooooooooo
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:40 PM PDT] Laura they are high Average Day Range
[Mar 28, 2010 6:25:52 PM PDT] Laura they range each day maybe 10-12%
[Mar 28, 2010 6:26:00 PM PDT] Laura big plays can be made from that
[Mar 28, 2010 6:26:15 PM PDT] Laura well yes, volume important
[Mar 28, 2010 6:26:26 PM PDT] guitarhero but its risky with small volume…okkkk
[Mar 28, 2010 6:26:32 PM PDT] Laura but the range is the most important factor
[Mar 28, 2010 6:27:00 PM PDT] Laura well most high ADR stocks have good range, lot of interest in them, otherwise the ADR wouldn’t be that high
[Mar 28, 2010 6:27:14 PM PDT] Laura sorry, meant most have good volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:28:06 PM PDT] Laura and we run the scan so we are only watching the top 40 ranked by volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:28:06 PM PDT] guitarhero i notice some phrases are not good working on stockfetcher filters made by me…there s any help there how to correct it?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:28:20 PM PDT] tmaugham Laura, aren’t you more interested in $$volume rather than just volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:28:31 PM PDT] Laura no, just volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:28:49 PM PDT] Laura I only meant the $$ vol on pennies/sub pennies
[Mar 28, 2010 6:29:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive guitar most code is here: http://www.investorsunderground.com/stock-fetcher-scans/
[Mar 28, 2010 6:29:17 PM PDT] tmaugham so anything over a dollar is just volume?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:29:45 PM PDT] Laura yeah, we’ll play a $2 stock with 100k volume
[Mar 28, 2010 6:29:56 PM PDT] Laura if the spread’s tight
[Mar 28, 2010 6:30:19 PM PDT] tmaugham k
[Mar 28, 2010 6:31:19 PM PDT] Sherry What do you mean if the spread is tight, please explain more
[Mar 28, 2010 6:31:36 PM PDT] Laura bid/ask tight
[Mar 28, 2010 6:31:58 PM PDT] Laura not playing a low volume stock with a 5-10% spread
[Mar 28, 2010 6:32:13 PM PDT] guitarhero and is there any relation on how the spread interfers with the potential for a stock to be hitting a hod or becoming a potential gapper?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:33:21 PM PDT] Laura no idea
[Mar 28, 2010 6:34:01 PM PDT] Laura but usually thinly traded stocks have worse spread, so no, those aren’t gonna be the hod hitters or gappers usually
[Mar 28, 2010 6:34:13 PM PDT] chanceypoo what does it mean when the spred goes from .10 to .02 for example
[Mar 28, 2010 6:34:34 PM PDT] Laura it means I will hurt you Chancey
[Mar 28, 2010 6:34:43 PM PDT] chanceypoo LOL
[Mar 28, 2010 6:35:20 PM PDT] chanceypoo seems like spread will tighten n then price goes higher
[Mar 28, 2010 6:35:37 PM PDT] Laura spread does seem to tighten as stock gets interest
[Mar 28, 2010 6:35:51 PM PDT] chanceypoo ok
[Mar 28, 2010 6:35:58 PM PDT] guitarhero read a great book of Christopher Farrell-day trade online—about taking advantage of big spreads-in case anyone feels to know more about–but it has more to do with stocks which move very slow…..
[Mar 28, 2010 6:36:26 PM PDT] crazy3 any recommendations for pre market tomorrow?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:36:39 PM PDT] Muddy you’ll the spread tighting when it gets real aka, real interest in it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:36:51 PM PDT] Laura crazy, we don’t know tonight what we will see tomorrow in pre-market
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:09 PM PDT] Laura Chancey????????????
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:19 PM PDT] tmaugham Laura, you haven’t sacraficed a goat yet???? LOL
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:44 PM PDT] chanceypoo whats ?????? MEAN
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:51 PM PDT] Sherry you cant see any activity on otcbb/pinks in Pre-market, correct
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:55 PM PDT] Sherry ?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:37:56 PM PDT] Laura Mudd says if the spread is wider than your butt crack, stay out! ::laugh
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:04 PM PDT] cpaul :O
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:04 PM PDT] Muddy oh man
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:07 PM PDT] chanceypoo LOL hahaha
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:15 PM PDT] Laura they don’t trade pre-market Sherry
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:34 PM PDT] Laura ::blink ::blink he made me type it!
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:43 PM PDT] chanceypoo sure sure
[Mar 28, 2010 6:38:46 PM PDT] chiroview I opened account, traded too much (the fool I am not knowing) and now have block until $25K is reached. Can’t imagine trading like this with multiple accounts, trying to keep track vs putting $25K in one account. Can you advise?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:39:19 PM PDT] Laura chiro, did you ask your broker for forgiveness?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:39:33 PM PDT] chiroview Yup, they laughed! 😉
[Mar 28, 2010 6:39:41 PM PDT] chiroview Still blocked
[Mar 28, 2010 6:39:48 PM PDT] Laura nah, most allow you to do it 2x per year
[Mar 28, 2010 6:39:50 PM PDT] jangidap I had that issue and Etrade took it off as it was my 1st time
[Mar 28, 2010 6:40:19 PM PDT] Laura Chiro, I’d switch broker I think
[Mar 28, 2010 6:40:28 PM PDT] stockweazel usually give you a one time courtesy…second time you’re blocked
[Mar 28, 2010 6:40:44 PM PDT] chiroview Yes but can’t imagine trading and remaining under that limit. What am I missing?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:40:44 PM PDT] Laura yeah, most give you 1-2 a year
[Mar 28, 2010 6:40:48 PM PDT] guitarhero sorry to move topic again….can be risky to jump on a gapper after open, since it can start going down, after a hod….but after a selloff, is good to enter at a textbook mouvment or join the rise up again?i remeber crazy LYJN falling down like hell 2 days ago….
[Mar 28, 2010 6:41:29 PM PDT] stockweazel some brokers allow you to daytrade with less than $25k, there are loopholes
[Mar 28, 2010 6:41:37 PM PDT] Laura Chiro, one strategy is to open 3-4 accts, 3 trades in each per week
[Mar 28, 2010 6:42:35 PM PDT] Laura and yes, agree weazel, we have WTC trading here, $5k open an acct. fees kinda high if you don’t trade much, but if you daytrade, pretty reasonable.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:42:53 PM PDT] Laura Prop trading firms
[Mar 28, 2010 6:42:57 PM PDT] epictrader4ever what are the brokers that allow u to do that stockweazel
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:13 PM PDT] coryd31 how do i get to seminar
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:21 PM PDT] Laura this is it cory!
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:33 PM PDT] stockweazel there are a few…one Laura just mention is a good one
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:40 PM PDT] coryd31 its not voice
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:49 PM PDT] Laura no it’s not
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:54 PM PDT] chiroview What are names WTC? Prop? Sorry missing it.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:43:59 PM PDT] coryd31 thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:12 PM PDT] Laura I have a 900 number for that cory
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:37 PM PDT] stockweazel lol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:47 PM PDT] coryd31 lol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:48 PM PDT] Muddy shew
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:52 PM PDT] InvestorsLive everything is on the dashboard
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:53 PM PDT] InvestorsLive off of it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:54 PM PDT] Laura ::lips
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:55 PM PDT] InvestorsLive seminar tap
[Mar 28, 2010 6:44:59 PM PDT] InvestorsLive investorsunderground.com/dashboard
[Mar 28, 2010 6:45:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive seminar tab…
[Mar 28, 2010 6:45:06 PM PDT] InvestorsLive prop trading has info about WTC
[Mar 28, 2010 6:45:10 PM PDT] InvestorsLive (less than 25k accounts)
[Mar 28, 2010 6:45:11 PM PDT] InvestorsLive etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:45:26 PM PDT] stockweazel http://www.wtctrading.com/
[Mar 28, 2010 6:46:02 PM PDT] chiroview Thanks.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:46:11 PM PDT] Laura errrr, sorry Mudd, didn’t know you were watching that 900 bit
[Mar 28, 2010 6:46:13 PM PDT] devils63den ok IL you need to get some rest we need you in the morning
[Mar 28, 2010 6:46:48 PM PDT] Derffie its only 945 ILs got another 6 hours to go
[Mar 28, 2010 6:46:59 PM PDT] epictrader4ever yes InvestorsLive.. do you ever get burnt out? i heard is a common thing in trading stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:47:20 PM PDT] Laura Derf knows
[Mar 28, 2010 6:47:49 PM PDT] Sherry Re: LYJN, it was such a winner and lasted a while, what 3-4 days. Eventhough I was following your recommnendation for newbies to refrain, I cat help but wonder if there was much risk, if I had gotten in early, say Tues, the risks seemed much smaller since we knew there had been a alot of pumping, 12 newsletters…right?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:01 PM PDT] chanceypoo LAURA, MUDDY IOC on friday we were hittin that thing left n right – was dropping all day – $60 stock n had some nice vol. 10c spread on avg – so in a situation like that where it does have interest n that spread goes to .02 does that mean a big move is to come or could come
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:08 PM PDT] chanceypoo or IL anyone
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:08 PM PDT] InvestorsLive not with this chat room – I don’t get burnt out
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:13 PM PDT] InvestorsLive fun times
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:23 PM PDT] jangidap yeah don’t leave us when some hedge asks you to join
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:34 PM PDT] devils63den yes this is fun thats why i do it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:38 PM PDT] guitarhero great seminar,ILIVE…we guys gave you a hard time today,huh?we were a bit of a p.i. the %%%??
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive the spread stuff is related to cheaper stocks chancey
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:51 PM PDT] Laura chancey, I didn’t follow it cuz of price, but I don’t mind a 10-30 cent spread on a high priced one
[Mar 28, 2010 6:48:56 PM PDT] Laura just what it is
[Mar 28, 2010 6:49:08 PM PDT] chanceypoo ok cool
[Mar 28, 2010 6:49:08 PM PDT] Laura yes, IL
[Mar 28, 2010 6:49:30 PM PDT] Laura I’ve bot/sold $30-80 stocks with that kinda spread
[Mar 28, 2010 6:49:58 PM PDT] Laura watch for the momo, they can run $1 quick either way
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:25 PM PDT] chanceypoo duh – yeah thats right soma those more expensive ones – its quite common for big spread – FORGOT
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:26 PM PDT] coryd31 how do you decide which ones to trade with so many on the list
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:40 PM PDT] Seq if you want practice try playen the hod list first with higher priced stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:44 PM PDT] Seq its much easier
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:49 PM PDT] ultimachi WOOO SEMINAR! On a mini vacay guys don’t mind me bout to roll back out. Just sayin hi lol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:50:51 PM PDT] Laura agree Seq
[Mar 28, 2010 6:51:05 PM PDT] Laura that’s what Muddy keeps telling new peeps that PM him
[Mar 28, 2010 6:51:23 PM PDT] Laura but they want to play the pumps for the “potential” big gain
[Mar 28, 2010 6:51:36 PM PDT] Laura safer to build acct slowly at first
[Mar 28, 2010 6:51:51 PM PDT] Seq hey keep in mind tho the hod list with alot of higher priced stocks is typically a scalp trade in and out
[Mar 28, 2010 6:51:52 PM PDT] devils63den good trading to all tomorrow
[Mar 28, 2010 6:52:13 PM PDT] devils63den thanks IL for the time you spend with us all
[Mar 28, 2010 6:52:24 PM PDT] guitarhero this seminar will take 5 hours to read….big one, duh!!
[Mar 28, 2010 6:52:36 PM PDT] coryd31 how do i see hod list
[Mar 28, 2010 6:52:55 PM PDT] Seq scottrade has market movers
[Mar 28, 2010 6:52:56 PM PDT] devils63den whats your girl friend going to think
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:06 PM PDT] Seq its easiest to spot as they scroll by
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:07 PM PDT] jangidap PM Muddy for safer stocks that could run up? Would the timeline for those be in days/weeks?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:09 PM PDT] Laura Cory, scottrade market movers, speedtrader, etc
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:12 PM PDT] devils63den when you tell her you reading seminars
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:24 PM PDT] devils63den all day
[Mar 28, 2010 6:53:42 PM PDT] Laura jang, I mean run the dayrangers scan on $10-15 stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:54:00 PM PDT] Laura and yes, some of them you can swing for days
[Mar 28, 2010 6:54:23 PM PDT] jangidap ok, got it
[Mar 28, 2010 6:54:46 PM PDT] jangidap I’m out, thanks for another gr8 seminar
[Mar 28, 2010 6:54:47 PM PDT] Laura Anyone else that likes higher priced ones too, I run this scan
[Mar 28, 2010 6:54:54 PM PDT] coryd31 are you buying and shorting and scalping both ways
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:12 PM PDT] Laura I run a scan looking for ADR over 5, and price between $15-40
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:51 PM PDT] stockweazel later guys, good seminar – im out, see u all in the am
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:55 PM PDT] abulloch guys – some terms it might be good to spell out what you mean for newbies: ‘scalp’, ‘swing’
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:56 PM PDT] tmaugham Laura, adr(20) adr(30) or ???
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:57 PM PDT] chanceypoo higher priced seem easier to play IMO
[Mar 28, 2010 6:55:58 PM PDT] Sherry do you say to play the $10-15 stocks because they are safer, less volitile?
[Mar 28, 2010 6:56:05 PM PDT] devils63den good night all
[Mar 28, 2010 6:56:10 PM PDT] Laura you can build a nice watchlist of 60-80 quality stocks. and listen, if markets are up, these stocks are like 76 out of 80 up on the day
[Mar 28, 2010 6:56:21 PM PDT] Laura and vice versa
[Mar 28, 2010 6:56:33 PM PDT] Laura def follow the market
[Mar 28, 2010 6:56:39 PM PDT] cabernet5 Very good info. Thanks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:57:16 PM PDT] Sherry how do i build this list, by doing the scans.
[Mar 28, 2010 6:57:39 PM PDT] Laura yes
[Mar 28, 2010 6:57:45 PM PDT] Laura modify it as you want
[Mar 28, 2010 6:57:45 PM PDT] coryd31 i like the 2 to 5.00 stocks buy 2000 4000 shares to profit more on less movement
[Mar 28, 2010 6:57:59 PM PDT] Laura yes cory, we do too
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:13 PM PDT] tmaugham Laura, adr(20) adr(30) or ???
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:13 PM PDT] Laura but nice safe profits to be made on higher priced ones too
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:22 PM PDT] Laura dunno Tom, lol
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:30 PM PDT] Laura I prolly use 30 on that one
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:34 PM PDT] Sherry i am not set up for that yet, is there another way to get this 60-80 stock list now
[Mar 28, 2010 6:58:47 PM PDT] tmaugham k
[Mar 28, 2010 6:59:12 PM PDT] coryd31 are you taking 10 to 20 cent profit or more on higher price stocks
[Mar 28, 2010 6:59:30 PM PDT] Laura I look for a 50 cent $1 move on those
[Mar 28, 2010 6:59:39 PM PDT] Laura or great swing holds
[Mar 28, 2010 6:59:56 PM PDT] coryd31 is that a daily move or weekly
[Mar 28, 2010 7:00:03 PM PDT] Laura I’ve seen stocks on that scan triple in a year
[Mar 28, 2010 7:00:14 PM PDT] Laura cory, you have to watch the list
[Mar 28, 2010 7:00:23 PM PDT] abulloch for Sherry how about: http://www.investorsunderground.com/2010/03/28/darkside-watches-329/
[Mar 28, 2010 7:00:51 PM PDT] Laura let’s say the ADR is 5 on a $30 dollar stock. that means 1.50 movement on avg a day
[Mar 28, 2010 7:01:21 PM PDT] Laura I’lll try to post a list this week of the higher priced ones
[Mar 28, 2010 7:01:43 PM PDT] Laura Nice thing is, you don’t have to run the scan but every few months if you don’t want to
[Mar 28, 2010 7:01:55 PM PDT] coryd31 I thought Muddy put out a list of hot stocks in the morning each day to narrow it down a bit
[Mar 28, 2010 7:02:03 PM PDT] Laura Sherry, if you have stockfetcher.com very easy to run
[Mar 28, 2010 7:02:26 PM PDT] Laura he does Cory, but not the higher priced, and not the same scan
[Mar 28, 2010 7:02:30 PM PDT] Laura read the blogs
[Mar 28, 2010 7:02:44 PM PDT] Sherry do i use the filter/parameters you list in one of the seminars
[Mar 28, 2010 7:02:49 PM PDT] tmaugham IL, Laura, Muddy, thanks for a great evening!
[Mar 28, 2010 7:03:03 PM PDT] tmaugham See you all tomorrow and have a good evening…
[Mar 28, 2010 7:03:16 PM PDT] coryd31 before the market open
[Mar 28, 2010 7:03:20 PM PDT] Laura ok, well just use common sense Sherry, change the price, change the ADR etc
[Mar 28, 2010 7:03:37 PM PDT] Laura higher priced aren’t going to be as volatile
[Mar 28, 2010 7:04:03 PM PDT] guitarhero how to use that ADR (30) scan on EQUITYFEED,since they mention only—the adr is bigger x times more then last 5 to 60 days?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:04:54 PM PDT] guitarhero any help?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:05:21 PM PDT] Muddy i just use stockfecther
[Mar 28, 2010 7:05:46 PM PDT] Muddy 8 years now, still 9 a month
[Mar 28, 2010 7:06:02 PM PDT] Laura best value on the web, imo
[Mar 28, 2010 7:06:15 PM PDT] coryd31 i have about 2 hours in the morning to daytrade isee you guys doing alot of morning spike trades i am trying to learn how to pick up best ones to trade, i tried to follow the morning blogs but i am new and havent to able to follow it very well
[Mar 28, 2010 7:06:25 PM PDT] Muddy set the columns up, you see all adr10 and 30
[Mar 28, 2010 7:07:35 PM PDT] Laura cory, you haven’t been in chat at all yet have you?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:07:50 PM PDT] guitarhero i have trouble customizing phrases on SF…any help there? like if i want stocks that money share volume is bigger then $100000 and stock pps lost more then 25% over the last 3 days and ADR(30) is bigger then 10
[Mar 28, 2010 7:07:50 PM PDT] Laura really need to give it a few months here to get it
[Mar 28, 2010 7:08:35 PM PDT] Laura dunno guitar, plenty of examples on the forums and help there
[Mar 28, 2010 7:08:42 PM PDT] coryd31 I was in chat on thursday night and tried to follow friday morning, i missed abio
[Mar 28, 2010 7:09:55 PM PDT] guitarhero laurie!!! would be a filter like yours looking lke this?that would be enough?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:09:58 PM PDT] guitarhero show stocks where the close is between 15 and 40 average volume(90) above 50000 average volume(10) above 500000 and average day range(30) is greater than 5 PERCENT
[Mar 28, 2010 7:11:10 PM PDT] Laura yesssssssssssssssssssss
[Mar 28, 2010 7:11:13 PM PDT] Laura good job
[Mar 28, 2010 7:11:45 PM PDT] Laura watch that avg vol 10 tho, maybe too high
[Mar 28, 2010 7:12:02 PM PDT] coryd31 i have been following timsykes and his trades for about a month, he tells when and what to trade i joined IL cause i wanted to trade daily to make up some spongetech losses
[Mar 28, 2010 7:12:14 PM PDT] guitarhero ok
[Mar 28, 2010 7:12:27 PM PDT] Laura Tim is very good at what he does
[Mar 28, 2010 7:12:40 PM PDT] guitarhero ok…thanks….i was demanding today…sorry for that!!!but you guys are incredible…really helping me becoming a better daytrade investor….and defenetly very humble and nice of you to share all these ”hidden secret ” tip
[Mar 28, 2010 7:12:57 PM PDT] Laura stop drinking the koolaid to avoid SPNG losses in the future
[Mar 28, 2010 7:13:30 PM PDT] Laura cory, it can work for you, but you have to give it time
[Mar 28, 2010 7:13:32 PM PDT] Laura ok?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:13:55 PM PDT] Laura it will click here, but if you are looking for an instant answer………..there are none
[Mar 28, 2010 7:14:03 PM PDT] coryd31 you guys are very good to with a different strategy, I want to quit my day job and trade full time eventually
[Mar 28, 2010 7:14:33 PM PDT] Laura well I want to throw Muddy out of the window eventually
[Mar 28, 2010 7:14:57 PM PDT] Sherry i have etrade, and not sure on how to get/look at 10/60 cross. is that using SMA and entering 10, then anothr at 60. also, the 2.5 day, dont know how to get either to show on my screen. If anyone here had etrade and could let me know
[Mar 28, 2010 7:15:50 PM PDT] coryd31 i still have 300,000 shares waiting for the come bach should i bail
[Mar 28, 2010 7:17:31 PM PDT] coryd31 i just learned last month from tim and IL to cut losses early, but to late for that
[Mar 28, 2010 7:18:20 PM PDT] striker3x5 your not by yourself cory im holding too for the long run lol never happen i think just one lost cause
[Mar 28, 2010 7:19:32 PM PDT] ckings888 I’m with u there cory as well, I’ve made some good coin with these guys, but i’ve also done dumb stuff too, but that is why we are all here, to learn, and to become wealthier
[Mar 28, 2010 7:19:56 PM PDT] ckings888 i keep waiting on stuff, but I think most times u do have to cut bait, clear your head and start over
[Mar 28, 2010 7:20:30 PM PDT] ckings888 the key is patience, and to not let your emotions control u
[Mar 28, 2010 7:21:12 PM PDT] abulloch cory: stop thinking of it in terms of how much you have lost – think only of its present $$ value. OK, now: where would those dollars be best invested? Where do they stand the best possibility of, say, a 10% return? Where they are now? or somewhere else?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:22:03 PM PDT] coryd31 no emotions now, it has made me cut profits early I am taking a 100 and could of made a thousand
[Mar 28, 2010 7:24:55 PM PDT] Seq hey where did Elvis go?
[Mar 28, 2010 7:26:51 PM PDT] coryd31 I like IL idea he explains on tims dvd, only cares about volume and ? can I run skans for that kind of stock
[Mar 28, 2010 7:30:27 PM PDT] InvestorsLive yes cory
[Mar 28, 2010 7:30:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive EquityFeed for OTCBB Pinks
[Mar 28, 2010 7:30:43 PM PDT] InvestorsLive or just HOD list with Volume parameters
[Mar 28, 2010 7:31:51 PM PDT] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2010/03/28/scans-for-032810-from-InvestorsLive/
[Mar 28, 2010 7:32:02 PM PDT] InvestorsLive Some good stuff for TA: http://www.InvestorsLive.com/2010/03/27/some-hot-charts-that-teach-some-good-technical-analysis/
[Mar 28, 2010 7:32:18 PM PDT] coryd31 did you send these link for me
[Mar 28, 2010 7:32:33 PM PDT] InvestorsLive my scan for tomorrow
[Mar 28, 2010 7:32:34 PM PDT] InvestorsLive for all
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