[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive What’s up all
[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive everyone have a good weekend?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:50 PM EST] mer063 yea
[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:53 PM EST] dthukral yessir, thank you for asking
[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:54 PM EST] chet1211221 Excellent weekend
[Nov 6, 2011 8:01:58 PM EST] Fltrader305 so far so good.
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:01 PM EST] autumnalcity good except for the Pats game
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:05 PM EST] t_hoyle School work yeaaaaaa
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:05 PM EST] Annep fantastic!
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:12 PM EST] Breadwinner heck yea. texans won
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:14 PM EST] koogar yep
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:16 PM EST] kooleraid Yeah babied Greek news until happy ending except Japanese are busy murdering it 🙂
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:24 PM EST] gphalorh Rain a party puper in Sunny CA
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive nice alright – not a bunch of questions I was hoping Thursdays seminar woulda kicked off some more questions – maybe once we open it up … you guys will start asking
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive but I’m assuming Thursday’s was pretty good and most are on same page
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive as I wrote on the seminar page I’ve assumed everyone has read it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:02:57 PM EST] kooleraid Shall I buy RAYS?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:03:04 PM EST] kooleraid lol
[Nov 6, 2011 8:03:12 PM EST] Laura yes, with all your money
[Nov 6, 2011 8:03:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Could you go over some general stuff about trading via prop firms like BST. Pros, cons, costs, regulations, profit sharing etc. Thanks.
[Nov 6, 2011 8:03:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive BST is great if you don’t have $25k – I love them even though I have over $25k for many reasons …
[Nov 6, 2011 8:03:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive different borrow list than Penson IB etc
[Nov 6, 2011 8:04:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive can request hard to borrows, don’t always have but another one in the works to find the shorts you’re looking for
[Nov 6, 2011 8:04:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive secondly, you can get 10:1 + .. 20:1 5:1 etc whereas with a broker you can only get 4:1
[Nov 6, 2011 8:04:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive this is buying power – but if you’re new or unsure of what to do with mroe buying power this can also be real bad
[Nov 6, 2011 8:04:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive lastly if you hold over nights (ie: gappers) in a regular broker you can refresh the buying power for the day and buy stocks .. BUT you have to hold over night
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive at Broad you can refresh and keep trading
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive so those are all the pros
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive 2 things they have BSSG and BSI
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive BSSG is the registered CBOE or whatever firm
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive and you need to do the series 56 and become a ‘professional’
[Nov 6, 2011 8:05:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive BSI is the off shore unregistered which you don’t need the series 56
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive profit sharing is 100% on all unless your backed by the firm
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive you don’t need to worry about that unless you’re offered because yo uhave to show you are a good trader first anyway
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive before they’re going to back you with their money… and at that time you’ll come to terms on a deal that makes sense
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive so that’s that
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive BUT!!!!!!!!!
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive on that note – those who are Canadian
[Nov 6, 2011 8:06:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive or trading non-US
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive SpeedTrader guy just opened up a new broker which caters to you guys
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive which I’m going to send out tomorrow all the info on
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive for so long Candians couldn’t trade at SpeedTrader and get all the benefits
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:28 PM EST] t_hoyle Yea Canadian
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive now you can trade at this firm
[Nov 6, 2011 8:07:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive Firm is here: http://bit.ly/tt0heN SureTrader
[Nov 6, 2011 8:08:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive but that’s that – I’ll cover all that stuff tomorrow
[Nov 6, 2011 8:08:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive Any questions related to Broad street?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:08:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive before I go to next question
[Nov 6, 2011 8:08:57 PM EST] koogar Does the IU deal still stand with BST? I noticed on the scanner setup page it says the merchant in suspended
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive that’s for equityfeed …
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive I just have to update the banner
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive they changed their code
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:33 PM EST] koogar oh yea, right. sorry
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:33 PM EST] sto777cks What about Lake Street or Boardwalk IL?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:09:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive Just email me re: BST and I can always forward over to Mark and get you set up at whatever deal works best for each individual
[Nov 6, 2011 8:10:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive thought Lake street was part of them – not sure .. I only deal and have history with Broad
[Nov 6, 2011 8:10:07 PM EST] koogar Ok. Thanks Nate
[Nov 6, 2011 8:10:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive alright next question
[Nov 6, 2011 8:10:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: I would like to know, should we all have Equityfeed so we can find moving plays same time as u so we dont miss any moves and buy the top?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:10:29 PM EST] sto777cks yea its their affiliate firm
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive I have equityfeed that’s what I use for my OTC scans
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:26 PM EST] InvestorsLive as well as some HOD filters
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive and other filters on Nasdaq
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive You can take the trial and see if it works for you ….. if you make $$ off it or find it to be an asset
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive then definately stick with it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:11:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive I have to update my links after the seminar I will put that in chat
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive but with my affiliate link I pass the savings on and have a special deal
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive he said other affiliates were complaining and we couldn’t do it much longer but we’ll keep going
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive ha
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive any specific questions related to EquityFeed?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive as you know the new member page has all my settings
[Nov 6, 2011 8:12:47 PM EST] InvestorsLive if any questions there feel free to ask
[Nov 6, 2011 8:13:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: Can you go over your INHX trades? What are the things you look at to get the “near top” s/s entry?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:14:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive My trades were here: http://www.investorsunderground.com/img/WKPDISHVAS.png
[Nov 6, 2011 8:14:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive each time was just smaller size – nothing crazy especially with range like that you can’t go bigger than what you are ok with .. knowing the risk is about $.50-$1.00 share
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive based on the range
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:11 PM EST] sto777cks Q: Which button do you press to get those green/red arrows? Is it on there or you draw it in after?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive right click chart
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:34 PM EST] InvestorsLive study config
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive then config again
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive “show trades”
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:50 PM EST] sto777cks and it automatically plugs it in?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:15:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive yes
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:02 PM EST] sto777cks neat, never knew that
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:09 PM EST] InvestorsLive yea it’s neat especially in this setting for me
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:15 PM EST] spazztrader thats nice is that Think or swim or another paltform nate?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive I can just copy and paste and peoiple can see entry exits
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:20 PM EST] rwaters254 Nate, thanks for those kind of charts, very useful for us still in the learning stage
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive was good to see when I screwed up on SINA too
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive where I went wrong
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:24 PM EST] sto777cks DAS i believe
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive DAS Trader as always
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:41 PM EST] spazztrader ahh ok thanks
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:48 PM EST] sto777cks we both screwed up on SINA
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:48 PM EST] spazztrader nice feature
[Nov 6, 2011 8:16:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive Any questions Stocksteve – on that INHX trade?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:14 PM EST] stocksteve11 can you share your INHX trades and size?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive You can look at the link I just posted
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive and look on profit.ly
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive to see the trades
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive they’re all there for you
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:36 PM EST] InvestorsLive the size doesn’t matter during the day
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive it’s about the trade
[Nov 6, 2011 8:18:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive I don’t put my size on purpose – doesn’t do you any good
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive you should be trading a size in which your comfortable with and not base it on mine
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive that’s why I type my trades in 1/3 1/2 or ful lsize positions
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive so people can trade relative to their full position size and not be clouded by my size
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:37 PM EST] stocksteve11 size is not needed but 1/2 or 1/3 etc
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive right – which you got…
[Nov 6, 2011 8:19:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive so if specific questions let me know
[Nov 6, 2011 8:20:07 PM EST] InvestorsLive just review the chat logs from Friday – all there
[Nov 6, 2011 8:20:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive any further questions related to the trade before moving on
[Nov 6, 2011 8:20:50 PM EST] stocksteve11 ok new here. where will I get last week’s data?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive I just posted above the trades … and you can click chat logs to view
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:20 PM EST] InvestorsLive QUESTION: I am wondering what the chart setup is that Muddy looks for for his brilliant all day longs that he keeps finding and I keep missing. Thanks.
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive Muddy doesn’t use charts during the day – he comes into the day knowing what the charts look like
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:44 PM EST] stocksteve11 thx InvestorsLive
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive it’s more about knowing former runners and just being patient – he trades a bit smaller in size which gives him a wide range
[Nov 6, 2011 8:21:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive and ability to let them go all day
[Nov 6, 2011 8:22:04 PM EST] InvestorsLive Muddy any comments or does that do it?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:22:36 PM EST] Laura he’s typing, lol, let him go
[Nov 6, 2011 8:22:46 PM EST] Muddy yes, i don’t use charts intraday usually, but look at tons of them afterhours
[Nov 6, 2011 8:24:20 PM EST] kip slow typer Muddy!
[Nov 6, 2011 8:24:32 PM EST] Laura he’s old1 lol
[Nov 6, 2011 8:24:41 PM EST] kip ::smile
[Nov 6, 2011 8:24:47 PM EST] Muddy everything to the gainers to pre that day to losers to 52s hitters to recent ipo’s to ones that have pulled into the bb’s after running hard along the bb’s
[Nov 6, 2011 8:25:46 PM EST] Laura and my fave plays are the higher priced losers in pre
[Nov 6, 2011 8:26:11 PM EST] dnvalid1 Muddy – do you use a certain % stop?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:26:18 PM EST] Laura love the bounces, Derffie showed me the 13ma on a 1 min chart on them and it works good
[Nov 6, 2011 8:26:49 PM EST] hacker2005xp 13 days simple moving average?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:27:17 PM EST] hacker2005xp mins
[Nov 6, 2011 8:27:32 PM EST] t_hoyle Laura do you use a 13 sma cross?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:27:39 PM EST] t_hoyle kind of like 10/60
[Nov 6, 2011 8:28:18 PM EST] Muddy on many i’ll use 3-4% initial stop, then trail it up if it rises
[Nov 6, 2011 8:28:27 PM EST] dnvalid1 thx
[Nov 6, 2011 8:29:37 PM EST] Laura yes, like the sma 13 cross
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:02 PM EST] dnvalid1 why 13?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:14 PM EST] Muddy i try for 8% at least though and will break even on some of them, formers usually, to try and hit the homerun rather then take 7% or less
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:19 PM EST] Laura dunno, you can use whatever works for you
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:28 PM EST] Laura but the 13 works for me
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:43 PM EST] t_hoyle 13 crossing 60?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:30:49 PM EST] Laura 13 ma
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:01 PM EST] stocksteve11 what is InvestorsLive‘s email ?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:04 PM EST] Laura trade long above it, trade short below it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive PM people PM
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive if u hvae questions for InvestorsLive I have a PM
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:35 PM EST] t_hoyle I guess for me since im in PDT i have to focus on more quality trades
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive quality of trades t_hoyle
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive and couple points we discussed last week on Thursday
[Nov 6, 2011 8:31:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive DON’T TRADE SCARED MONEY
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:13 PM EST] InvestorsLive if you can only risk $10 bucks a trade .. this isn’t for you … it’s best to paper trade and get a feel for how things are workin’
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive before applying real cash to the mix
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:24 PM EST] t_hoyle I can risk a little more then that
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive I get that – but you know what I mean – sometimes just best to go thru the motions
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:44 PM EST] InvestorsLive until confidence builds
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:51 PM EST] t_hoyle ive been with Tim sykes for a year but find that there are more actionable trades in this chatroom
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive and can commit – no reason to dive in head first
[Nov 6, 2011 8:32:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive yes for sure
[Nov 6, 2011 8:33:51 PM EST] dnvalid1 Speaking of Sykes, heard he had a secret broker for shorts…….i was trying to SS a few ya’ll were on Friday but TOS couldn’t borrow………any sugestions?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive you’ll need to talk to Sykes
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:11 PM EST] Muddy scared money is a huge downfall, trade real small at first so you don’t get trapped into it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:20 PM EST] t_hoyle He gave it away the other day
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive like Mud said and like we were saying above a lot of times I tell people …. even if you’re just playing 50-100 shares to go thru the motions when you’re learning
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:45 PM EST] stocksteve11 Sorry to ask, new here, do i have to click on Private Chat for PM?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive it’s better than being wrong and losing $500 +
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive when you’re trying to learn
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:54 PM EST] dnvalid1 well what is everyone using to SS then?????? Obviously not TOS
[Nov 6, 2011 8:34:57 PM EST] InvestorsLive better to lose $50 bucks
[Nov 6, 2011 8:35:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive not saying trade tiny always but when you’re trying something new
[Nov 6, 2011 8:35:11 PM EST] t_hoyle Ive been pretty strict with my positions
[Nov 6, 2011 8:35:19 PM EST] sto777cks yes Steve
[Nov 6, 2011 8:35:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – u can check brokers page that’s where most are that I use .. along with Sykes secret broker and others
[Nov 6, 2011 8:35:56 PM EST] t_hoyle I trade only 20% max of my account value and can only really trade 3 times every 5 days intraday, i rather get the feel of things while im in school and learn as much as i can, to find my own comfortablestratgy
[Nov 6, 2011 8:36:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive any further questions guys – since I know most didn’t drop any questions on the page?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:37:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive questions from what I went over Thursday?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive for real?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:03 PM EST] InvestorsLive wow u guys easy
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:14 PM EST] koogar nope. Thursday was great
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:38 PM EST] rude1 is there a time in pre stocks typically spike?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:45 PM EST] FadilCashflow Do you think that sykes article will effect RAYS at all? hes short 5k by misstake he said
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:58 PM EST] FadilCashflow Do you think it’ll keep rising and b/o
[Nov 6, 2011 8:38:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive no rude1 – no rhyme or reason
[Nov 6, 2011 8:39:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive I think it’ll breakout before it tanks re: RAYS
[Nov 6, 2011 8:39:20 PM EST] rico17010 IL was wondering if you do any of the boxing strategy on shorts that are still running…and if so has it worked for you?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:39:27 PM EST] dthukral the seminar was for the penny stocks conference, can I assume the principles apply to any stock and not just OTC
[Nov 6, 2011 8:39:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive but as I said all week – we’re up over $1/share so nothing wrong with locking in some profits
[Nov 6, 2011 8:39:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive no I don’t box stocks most times – boxing is just to protect being wrong – I try to be right
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:05 PM EST] sto777cks lol
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:20 PM EST] lerand ha ha, a hundred grand right.
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:29 PM EST] FadilCashflow You’ll be explaining SureTrader at another seminar correct?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:29 PM EST] kooleraid ie i got balls of steel
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’ll explain it tonight and tomorrow if people don’t have questions
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive was going to save it figured peeps would bring more to table
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive 🙂
[Nov 6, 2011 8:40:56 PM EST] rude1 what time do you start in the am?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive what u mean?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:20 PM EST] rude1 6am?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:22 PM EST] sto777cks when his fiance lets him out of bed
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive you’ve been a member for how long now … you know …… I’m here 8am ish … on avg
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:28 PM EST] koogar haha
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive 7:30….
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive 8
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive 8:15
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive whatever as long as I’m here before 9am
[Nov 6, 2011 8:41:45 PM EST] jatd104 %%%% it sucks being on the west coast
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:09 PM EST] rude1 central time here it sucks too
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:14 PM EST] newdif can you share some pics that you took in Vegas? I want to see the life style of being a successful day trader like you
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:27 PM EST] FadilCashflow Question: what was ur initial starting capital when u first started trading ? and were u up and back down to where u started several times?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:38 PM EST] spazztrader yeah i never got to see the pics of vegas nate
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive sure newdif – visit: http://www.greygoose.com/
[Nov 6, 2011 8:42:48 PM EST] spazztrader thx nate
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive $5k when is tarted and yes lost it all many a times
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:11 PM EST] sto777cks yea TSykes keeps bragging about models. Where are those pics?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive before I started trading and not bag holding
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:24 PM EST] Robyn INHX question. on the 2nd s/s in the premarket (when you added to it) was your size the same or greater than the 1st s/s entry?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive why do we always have to talk about Sykes in here
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive next
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:30 PM EST] kooleraid lol
[Nov 6, 2011 8:43:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive weird infatuation you all have with the dude
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive Robyn – 2nd time was more
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:10 PM EST] InvestorsLive since it had gone parabolic
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive that was like .70 cents in a split second
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive after going up $3
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:22 PM EST] newdif lol thx
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:29 PM EST] rico17010 I am interested in that too, your initial capital, did you have some bug all in trades to get you comfortable with house money at first, or do you recommend small gains and steady to build up an account?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:30 PM EST] InvestorsLive so it to me was worth it .. the risk vs. reward
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:48 PM EST] FadilCashflow Question: Will you be using SureTrader or already have one? They have low rates but theres a buncha fees like platform fees and L2 fee’s ?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive I started trading in college and traded between classes so that’s what kind of trader I developed to be
[Nov 6, 2011 8:44:59 PM EST] dnvalid1 any reason you didn’t go for the SS toward the end of the day?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:45:02 PM EST] InvestorsLive I take the $$ when I nail it.. move to the next
[Nov 6, 2011 8:45:05 PM EST] InvestorsLive I look for THE trade
[Nov 6, 2011 8:45:24 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – was watching RAYs or something else – wasn’t watching it after the last trade on it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:45:28 PM EST] yanks080602 Im new here what does S/S stand for?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:45:46 PM EST] t_hoyle short sale
[Nov 6, 2011 8:46:16 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/chat-room-acronyms/
[Nov 6, 2011 8:46:21 PM EST] kooleraid suki suki
[Nov 6, 2011 8:46:29 PM EST] InvestorsLive Fadil – I’m not non-US and I’m not Canadian
[Nov 6, 2011 8:46:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive so SureTrader … unless I have offshore account no
[Nov 6, 2011 8:47:36 PM EST] FadilCashflow Question: How long & how old were u when u passed 100k in ur account from that 5k up and down rollercoaster
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:01 PM EST] dieselpowered Is there a reason that you use EquityFeed data feeds over data feeds from IB?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive I don’t remember Fadil Cash – it doesn’t really matter focus on good trades and cutting losses and it’ll add up
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive focus less on what others do and focus on making yourself better
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:34 PM EST] Laura Nate uses EQ different than we do
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:37 PM EST] InvestorsLive if I focus on what other people make it doesn’t pad my account
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:43 PM EST] Laura We are scanning for diff things
[Nov 6, 2011 8:48:49 PM EST] dnvalid1 Any suggestions on position sizing – Longs vs shorts?? etc
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:00 PM EST] Laura All of our pre lists come from IB
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – like what ? I trade relative to price action
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive relative to the range
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive obviously an INHX trade vs. a BAC trade
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:36 PM EST] dnvalid1 postion sizing based on account – ie. use 10% of account per trade
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:41 PM EST] InvestorsLive you won’t trade 10k INHX whereas you may trade only 500 INHX
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:52 PM EST] InvestorsLive some do %’s some don’t .. I don’t
[Nov 6, 2011 8:49:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive I just trade based on X shares and X risk
[Nov 6, 2011 8:50:27 PM EST] dnvalid1 so you change based on inherent risk
[Nov 6, 2011 8:50:32 PM EST] InvestorsLive the charts I went over last week on Thursdays (the ones I said to read prior to this seminar) …. I base the size on the range and how far off that support/perk/gearing I am
[Nov 6, 2011 8:50:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive right
[Nov 6, 2011 8:51:30 PM EST] karen99 For anyone who used trailing stops to protect profits. Do you use % or $ value?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:13 PM EST] mer063 i am new here. do you do video webinars too, or just this chat thing ?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:21 PM EST] dnvalid1 some say never enter stops into the market – you advise?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:46 PM EST] InvestorsLive mer – chat thing
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:47 PM EST] Muddy i use mental %
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:48 PM EST] FadilCashflow mer its chat, u can read all the previous seminars on the site too
[Nov 6, 2011 8:52:55 PM EST] InvestorsLive maybe more once I have office build late Feb
[Nov 6, 2011 8:53:56 PM EST] FadilCashflow Question: When ur up around 8ish whats ur ritual routine what exactly do u check when u get on ur computer, emails for pumps? etc. etc
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive yup check emails … check my scan vs. market action
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive check what markets doing
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive need more? .. shower…
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive eat
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive brush teeth
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:26 PM EST] FadilCashflow lol
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:38 PM EST] karen99 The reason i am asking, last week i had to leave early and sold REDF way to soon. It was suggested to use the trailing stops
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:45 PM EST] newdif Nate, do you use either iPhone or Droit for mobile trading?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive iPhone
[Nov 6, 2011 8:54:53 PM EST] Laura Yah, we use mental stops, but when I have to be away, I set a trailing or a stop.
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:23 PM EST] FadilCashflow question: for TD/TOS users our L2 for OTC stocks is that a complete disadvantage that we dont have anything there except 1 line
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive TOD doesn’t even have real level 2
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:42 PM EST] Laura Nate bot me an iPhone. My smart phone smarter than me. 🙁
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:50 PM EST] FadilCashflow only for nasdaq stocks it works right but OTC its nothing
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:56 PM EST] InvestorsLive yea just view my website InvestorsLive.com left hand side to see real level 2
[Nov 6, 2011 8:55:57 PM EST] Muddy i try to keep an eye on the range of the pre market gainers and some losers
[Nov 6, 2011 8:56:41 PM EST] FadilCashflow question: any reason for only using 1m timeframes is there something special about it rather then using 15mins etc
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive relates to how I trade
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:18 PM EST] InvestorsLive I look for THE move
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:21 PM EST] InvestorsLive I take THE gains
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:22 PM EST] InvestorsLive and move on
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive I’d prob be more patient and have more swings if I used longer time frame but not my style
[Nov 6, 2011 8:57:42 PM EST] InvestorsLive if it works for you .. do it
[Nov 6, 2011 8:58:38 PM EST] t_hoyle Does speedtrader have free lvl 2?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:58:58 PM EST] InvestorsLive yes if your a day trader and not someone who just watches the market
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:08 PM EST] dnvalid1 IL – do pay any attention to the tape?
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:08 PM EST] InvestorsLive ie: if you place 10 buys and 10 sells it’ll pay for itself
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive aka … it’s like $150 a month for ALL options but as soon as you hit $150 worth of comissions
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:27 PM EST] InvestorsLive it’s waived
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:39 PM EST] t_hoyle oh ok
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – same as Thursdays seminar – I watch it all – don’t just focus on one thing
[Nov 6, 2011 8:59:56 PM EST] t_hoyle well i have an IB account
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:02 PM EST] FadilCashflow question: sometimes u tend to find out the tickers of pumps before they release, do u type them in here so we can get in early on our own risk not like following u or anything
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:05 PM EST] stocksteve11 Does any1 play options here?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:17 PM EST] InvestorsLive not an option based chat steve
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive sure people trade them – not our game tho
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:26 PM EST] t_hoyle I understand options but have yet to use them
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:49 PM EST] InvestorsLive Fadil – I don’t even know what that means
[Nov 6, 2011 9:00:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive we trade stocks if they show up on scan then sure they are in here
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:12 PM EST] newdif I am a swim trader and using Think or Swim. Like what you said, it doesn’t offer real L2. Does it really matter?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:33 PM EST] FadilCashflow yeah
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:35 PM EST] InvestorsLive newdif – if you use level 2 then sure, if you don’t no – its all based on what you’re used to
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive any questions related to how we trade guys vs. ‘fix my brokerage’ etc etc
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:57 PM EST] Laura what’s a swim trader?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:01:59 PM EST] InvestorsLive any questions related to improving
[Nov 6, 2011 9:02:00 PM EST] InvestorsLive etc
[Nov 6, 2011 9:02:04 PM EST] lerand lol Laura
[Nov 6, 2011 9:02:24 PM EST] stocksteve11 who are top traders here other than the ones in Green?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:02:33 PM EST] FadilCashflow question: when u had a smaller sized account did u still scale in and out of postions?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:02:33 PM EST] lerand the one in blue
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:10 PM EST] newdif lol Laura, trading while swiming. *swing*
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive there are bolded members as well as many others who are not bolded or colored
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive that are good and assets to the chat
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:21 PM EST] stocksteve11 I mean other than IL, Laura, Muddy
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive guys – if you’re taking a trial just watch for a few days
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:33 PM EST] InvestorsLive get a hang of it rather than ask a zillion questions
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:38 PM EST] InvestorsLive you’ll see they get answered
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:43 PM EST] InvestorsLive just chill for 2-3 days and watch
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:47 PM EST] dnvalid1 do u suggest taking your stop and setting back on a break or reversing if it’s a major level?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:48 PM EST] mer063 ok
[Nov 6, 2011 9:03:54 PM EST] Laura Stock, you’ll find out if you watch for a week or two
[Nov 6, 2011 9:04:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive Fadil – yes always scaled in and out
[Nov 6, 2011 9:04:07 PM EST] FadilCashflow kk
[Nov 6, 2011 9:04:31 PM EST] InvestorsLive dnvalid – I would suggest reviewing the seminar I suggested to read prior to tonights
[Nov 6, 2011 9:04:40 PM EST] InvestorsLive Thursdays will go over where I stop mentally
[Nov 6, 2011 9:04:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive with visuals
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:03 PM EST] dnvalid1 i was here, guess don;t remember that part
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:05 PM EST] dnvalid1 sry
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:09 PM EST] FadilCashflow I have 1 pump related Question: A stock like RAYS is dumping shares since the first day, Will they ever buy shares back to push it up to force people to cover their shorts since they see ppl talking about shorting it already?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:36 PM EST] jatd104 I think thats what were hoping for
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:48 PM EST] InvestorsLive Fadil you’ll have to call RAYS and ask them
[Nov 6, 2011 9:05:53 PM EST] InvestorsLive guys comon
[Nov 6, 2011 9:06:01 PM EST] InvestorsLive questions for real please – that are answerable
[Nov 6, 2011 9:06:11 PM EST] InvestorsLive anything off Thursdays seminar that didn’t make sense?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:06:19 PM EST] FadilCashflow lol kk
[Nov 6, 2011 9:06:28 PM EST] InvestorsLive if not I’m going to work on scan for tomorrow
[Nov 6, 2011 9:07:04 PM EST] mer063 is there some learning materials on your website? like trading setups, strategies, entry/exit strategies, risk management, trade reviews and stuff like that ?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:07:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive new member page
[Nov 6, 2011 9:07:40 PM EST] rwaters254 thanks Nate, new guys if you go read all the old seminars – all of your questions have been answered at least twice-and you will gain a wealth of knowledge just from Seminar notes- Good night
[Nov 6, 2011 9:08:27 PM EST] jatd104 I really liked that pic of “How to get Long” from thursday, is there any more of those pics or are they all in previous seminars
[Nov 6, 2011 9:08:30 PM EST] newdif Thanks, Nate & Laura!
[Nov 6, 2011 9:08:50 PM EST] jatd104 pics/ explanations
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive guys I’m pretty patient but the new folks who joined for the special since I had a good week and wanted people to take another trial… the reason you prob quit the first time is because you never reviewed the new member page and never bothered to pay attention to what we do and just ask random questions about stuff that won’t help you
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:14 PM EST] InvestorsLive we put it out there
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:19 PM EST] InvestorsLive I really suggest going through Thursdays seminar
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:25 PM EST] InvestorsLive it will bring you on the same page
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:45 PM EST] InvestorsLive but some of this stuff for example … “are the promoters going to do this and that”
[Nov 6, 2011 9:09:51 PM EST] InvestorsLive and stuff like that – lets focus on what makes us money
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive if you haven’t already – go back and review Thursdays seminar
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive sepnt a lot of time on that
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:23 PM EST] autumnalcity Nate as an idea for future seminars, maybe you could do an “Anatomy of a trade” with charts… going over in retrospect, what you saw, what you liked, what changed over the course of the trade, why you chose to exit where you did… makes it realy tangible and I think it would help the quality of questions
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:27 PM EST] FadilCashflow ur right, is there any other really good ones like thursdays seminar that u remmber that i can go back and read up on
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:39 PM EST] InvestorsLive autumn – like I did on Thursday?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:43 PM EST] autumnalcity right
[Nov 6, 2011 9:10:47 PM EST] autumnalcity but i mean as a staple
[Nov 6, 2011 9:11:10 PM EST] stocksteve11 thx IL, some useful info on the 1st day
[Nov 6, 2011 9:13:40 PM EST] dnvalid1 thx IL – looking forward to tomorrow – gn
[Nov 6, 2011 9:14:20 PM EST] mer063 thank you for the seminar. good bye
[Nov 6, 2011 9:14:24 PM EST] jatd104 thx IL
[Nov 6, 2011 9:14:45 PM EST] dthukral thanks IL
[Nov 6, 2011 9:16:23 PM EST] InvestorsLive doing scans now so I’m around if further questions
[Nov 6, 2011 9:16:52 PM EST] Fltrader305 thanks, great idea Autumn
[Nov 6, 2011 9:19:28 PM EST] rude1 steelers or ravens?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:22:41 PM EST] ucfanatic1 it’ll come down to the final minutes…..like most cases over the years
[Nov 6, 2011 9:23:20 PM EST] rude1 prolly… steelers seem to win those more often then not though
[Nov 6, 2011 9:23:38 PM EST] dieselpowered anyone see sabres/ senators last night?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:24:56 PM EST] ucfanatic1 does anyone here use trade architect?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:28:32 PM EST] ucfanatic1 how about those 49ers?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:28:42 PM EST] rude1 sweet ground game
[Nov 6, 2011 9:29:52 PM EST] rude1 lions thanksgiving game is actually going to be good this year……its bean a long time
[Nov 6, 2011 9:29:58 PM EST] rude1 ‘been
[Nov 6, 2011 9:30:05 PM EST] ucfanatic1 who are they playing?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:31:04 PM EST] rude1 GB
[Nov 6, 2011 9:31:20 PM EST] ucfanatic1 yea…that’s going to be a good one
[Nov 6, 2011 9:31:51 PM EST] ucfanatic1 GB is playing too tough in a division to go undefeated
[Nov 6, 2011 9:32:28 PM EST] rude1 idk rodgers qb rating is highest of all time so far this season
[Nov 6, 2011 9:33:22 PM EST] ucfanatic1 yea…no doubt that they are getting the #1 seed
[Nov 6, 2011 9:37:50 PM EST] InvestorsLive http://www.investorsunderground.com/2011/11/06/scans-for-110711-from-InvestorsLive/
[Nov 6, 2011 9:45:48 PM EST] mer063 ::up
[Nov 6, 2011 9:46:18 PM EST] yanks080602 Nate, what are your settings on Finviz?
[Nov 6, 2011 9:49:54 PM EST] InvestorsLive justput up 7-8% on the week last day up at least 5%
[Nov 6, 2011 9:50:06 PM EST] InvestorsLive barebones gotta figure it out
[Nov 6, 2011 9:57:12 PM EST] InvestorsLive it is a cool site
[Nov 6, 2011 9:57:15 PM EST] InvestorsLive i should try it out more
[Nov 6, 2011 11:07:02 PM EST] MilesJStoner http://www.boomwin.com/2011/11/nov-7-mon-29.html
[Nov 6, 2011 11:07:06 PM EST] MilesJStoner couple set ups and eps
[Nov 6, 2011 11:07:16 PM EST] MilesJStoner http://www.investorsunderground.com/2011/11/06/scans-for-110711-from-InvestorsLive/
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